News Radeon RX 9070 RDNA 4 GPU purportedly performs similar to RTX 4080 Super in CoD Black Ops 6

[Admin]

Early benchmarks at CES suggest that the Radeon RX 9070 could perform similarly to an RTX 4080 Super

Radeon RX 9070 RDNA 4 GPU purportedly performs similar to RTX 4080 Super in CoD Black Ops 6 : Read more

 

[Notton]

On paper, the 5080 has about 11% more CUDA cores than 4080 Super.
The RT cores is 84 vs. 80.
We'll just have to wait and see how much heavy lifting the rest of the parts do in games that don't support triple frame gen.

 

[Jagar123]

I think Daniel Owen debunked this pretty convincingly. He believes the COD6 graphics settings were changed without rebooting the game. In his experience if you do not reboot the game after making graphic setting changes they do not take effect.

Radeon RX 9070 Gaming Benchmark at CES Analysis

 

[ekio]

AMD need to sell their gpu at such a deal price that everyone wants one, and so they can increase their market share, and become relevant.

What’s the point to be struggling behind nvidia technically and regarding the hype and try to sell at a similar price range?
Nobody will pick their products.

Make your product dirt cheap so that people WANT it because it’s attractive, and provide people a kind of revenge against Nvidia. Otherwise it’s fighting for nothing.

 

[Eximo]

Purchasing power vs fab time. They don't have the capital to outbid Nvidia or Apple. So even if they sold at firesale prices, they wouldn't be able to make the volume to meet demand at those prices.

 

[A Stoner]

I certainly hope that AMD can bring forth some reasonable mid range quality. I understand they are not aiming for the top tier with their current plans. But staying in the ball park will still help with some level of competition. Competition is going to be needed in order to pair back the extreme cost growth at the high end at some point in time. $2000 for a consumer graphics card is hard to swallow.

 

[redgarl]

It is a game that is favorable to AMD, so no surprise here. It is basically having the same performances as the 7900XT, so expect a 7900XT as AMD described. If they can bring this at 450$, they will have a winner. Not to mention the 7900XT already had similar RT performance than the 4070 TI beside in AW2, CP2077 and Wukong...

 

[redgarl]

I think Daniel Owen debunked this pretty convincingly. He believes the COD6 graphics settings were changed without rebooting the game. In his experience if you do not reboot the game after making graphic setting changes they do not take effect.

Radeon RX 9070 Gaming Benchmark at CES Analysis

You listening to that fool and propagating his speculation is already a joke in itself...

 

[OllyR]

The in-game benchmark also revealed the RX 9070's VRAM amount, confirming rumors that the GPU will come with 16GB of VRAM. However, we don't know if the VRAM is GDDR6/GDDR6X or GDDR7.

The RX 9070 is the runner-up to the RX 9070 XT, which will be AMD's flagship GPU, at least for the initial RDNA 4 RX 9000 series launch

At this point any possibility must be taken into consideration. Why it couldn't be that AMD sandboxed the launch of RDNA4? It seems so for sure. It could also be much better performing than expected. It would also make sense generation after generation that the 9070 could have similar performance to the 4080 Super. To try to surprise NVIDIA this was the only right tactic to follow, sandbox till the last minute.

Also it seems that NVIDIA's 50 series is about 30% better performing than the 40 series (with 30% more watt consumption...) and this also makes sense given that the basic architecture has remained the same as the previous generation. This helps AMD a lot in staying competitive. This generation we have NVIDIA that only updated their previous architecture vs AMD that did the same. The next generation will be new projects and nodes for both but this is another story and we will see.

We know that the RDNA3 project had been plagued by some problems in chiplet handling and so the maximum achievable frequency. Maybe with RDNA4 they have fixed these issues and for sure improved RT, they have added their first AI scalers and probably improved something else too. Don't forget that in the meantime AMD has worked with console manufacturers for the next gen so I think it will improve a lot (as was already rumored) on this aspect.

Also we don't even know for sure if RAM on these cards is actually GDDR6 or GDDR7. Maybe it's GDDR7 who knows, maybe a model superior to the 9070XT also surprisingly popped up?
Keep in mind that to date AMD has never "officially" presented RDNA4. There is nothing published on their site and even if it was like NVIDIA does with later added new models on the lineup even AMD could do the same. I'm not saying it will definitely be like this and there are a lot of "maybe" but at least waiting seems like the most logical thing to me. I repeat to you the only tactic to surprise NVIDIA was this and so...

 

[fybyfyby]

Of this is for good price, I will buy it.

 

[DavidLejdar]

If the RX 9070 has a geomean of around 90 FPS at 4K (no FSR), that's where I'd say that it starts to get interesting about adding a 4K screen for gaming, in particular if the RX 9070 comes at around a quarter of the price of RTX 5090. Naturally, the number may decrease with newer games. But for a range of genres, quite solid I'd say, let alone at below 4K. But we shall see. Personally, I'll likely eye something a tier above the RX 9070.

 

[oofdragon]

I bet it will have 7900XT performance and be priced at $500, which is pretty "ok" honestly, At $450 it would turn more heads and be "great" for the price point, and at $400 it would be a Nvidia killer for sure but knowing it's AMD..

Anyways since it's virtually a 7900XT with less TBP, I wonder what will happen to the 7900XT used market. I know for sure I wouldnt pay more than $450 for a used one out of warranty more power hungry. At that price it's a great deal of a GPU for sure

 

[stuff and nonesense]

AMD need to sell their gpu at such a deal price that everyone wants one, and so they can increase their market share, and become relevant.

What’s the point to be struggling behind nvidia technically and regarding the hype and try to sell at a similar price range?
Nobody will pick their products.

Make your product dirt cheap so that people WANT it because it’s attractive, and provide people a kind of revenge against Nvidia. Otherwise it’s fighting for nothing.

They tried selling “cheap” with cards that had better performance for their price relative to Nvidia, people still bought Nvidia. AMD were simply seen as cheap and inferior.

It’s a nice idea but tough to make work. Marketing is difficult.

 

[LolaGT]

It doesn't really matter where it stacks up except in price per performance. It has already been leaked for a while that it was between a 7900 GRE and xt and that sounds like it is panning out to be in that area.
If it is priced the same as a rtx5070 or thereabouts the masses won't get near it. team green will out market them, they don't even have to try, that has already been proven.

 

[Mama Changa]

It doesn't really matter where it stacks up except in price per performance. It has already been leaked for a while that it was between a 7900 GRE and xt and that sounds like it is panning out to be in that area.
If it is priced the same as a rtx5070 or thereabouts the masses won't get near it. team green will out market them, they don't even have to try, that has already been proven.

AMD has categorically refuted all those leaks on performance. To me they would only do so if it were performing better, not worse. Let's not forget Moore's Law is Dead started most of those leaks.

 

[Gururu]

I will be very surprised if this is below $599.99.

 

[YSCCC]

They tried selling “cheap” with cards that had better performance for their price relative to Nvidia, people still bought Nvidia. AMD were simply seen as cheap and inferior.

It’s a nice idea but tough to make work. Marketing is difficult.

It's just about how much cheaper... like in the past what they keep doing is selling slightly cheaper than Nvidia but with a gen inferior RT performance, when Nvidia is selling in the costing an arm and a leg territory, ppl won't save $50 from $800 and give up the RT, when I pay $500+ either you have roughly similar performance in Raster+RT or you are significantly cheaper.

It will work if you price it correctly, look at Battlemage! when it's really cheap ppl are even willing to tolerate with the maybe not fixable overhead issue, and the drivers issues for Intel, if your undercut isn't working, you arn't undercutting enough.

 

[Notton]

They tried selling “cheap” with cards that had better performance for their price relative to Nvidia, people still bought Nvidia. AMD were simply seen as cheap and inferior.

It’s a nice idea but tough to make work. Marketing is difficult.

That's because the RX7000 series sucked compared to the RX6000 series .
RX7000 barely had any performance improvements for costing as much as they did, and the RX6000 was on discount due to being phased out.
Then AMD dropped the price on RX7000, but the damage was done and it wasn't a deep enough discount anyways.
30% cheaper than nvidia for 100% less features is not a deal, and people see through that.

 

[JayGau]

It is a game that is favorable to AMD, so no surprise here. It is basically having the same performances as the 7900XT, so expect a 7900XT as AMD described. If they can bring this at 450$, they will have a winner. Not to mention the 7900XT already had similar RT performance than the 4070 TI beside in AW2, CP2077 and Wukong...

It's exactly what I thought when I read that. COD games have always been favorable to AMD cards. The 7900XTX was even beating the 4090 in MW2 benchmarks. Looks like the 9070XT will have similar performance than the 7900XT, which would not be bad if they price it well. At 400-500$ it would be a hit. If they price it more than that people will just stick with their current card or go with a RTX 5000.