Question RAM for B450 S2H V2 GIGABYE and CPU Ryzen5 2600

[ShyRyzenGamer]

I have been searching for RAM for days and I can't really know which would suit my build. I've looked thru some QVLs but can't find any RAM that I discovered as "COMPATIBLE" for my PC. In details:

F4-3200C16D-16GTZB it is on Gskills website as QVL for my mobo but it doesn't state if it can work with my CPU​

and KF436C16RBAK2/16 also couldn't find any info on this. ​

(I'm looking for 2modules of 8gb)

 

[Darkbreeze]

Are you in the US?

 

[thestryker]

The memory controller for the Ryzen 2000 series is somewhat hit and miss so if that's your CPU choice you're better off buying 2933 memory just to be safe.

 

[ShyRyzenGamer]

Are you in the US?

No, I'm from Macedonia not many options for RAM here

 

[ShyRyzenGamer]

The memory controller for the Ryzen 2000 series is somewhat hit and miss so if that's your CPU choice you're better off buying 2933 memory just to be safe.

The problem is I can only find 3200, 3600, 2666 (which I currently have). Also 2133 mhz. Not many options here in Macedonia I'm limited to very few models unfortunately

 

[Darkbreeze]

So, if the G.Skill memory configurator says it is compatible for your SPECIFIC motherboard MODEL, then it is, pretty much regardless of CPU model. In truth, if you stick to Neos kits from G.Skill, you will almost certainly be ok.

The problem I see though, is that your board is not even listed on the G.Skill memory configurator, so I'm not sure how you could have seen it showing as compatible.

RAM Configurator - G.SKILL International Enterprise Co., Ltd.

Find compatible memory kits for your motherboard. Just select the motherboard from the dropdown list and click on Search for a list of compatible G.SKILL memory kits.

www.gskill.com

I will tell you this though, if you want a G.Skill kit, or ANY kit really, that is going to work on that B450 board with your 2nd Gen Ryzen, you would be VERY wise to stick with memory that is 2933MT/s or less. Also, it is not "mhz". It is MT/s, and they are totally not the same thing.

Also, there is no B450 S2H v2, it does not exist according to Gigabyte. There IS however a B450M S2H v2, which is an important detail, because the M means it's a micro ATX board. The lack of the M on a same named model means it's a standard ATX model.

This kit is compatible, but it's Corsair, so if it's available it's an option for you.

VENGEANCE® RGB PRO 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 DRAM 2933MHz C16 AMD Ryzen Memory Kit — Black

CORSAIR VENGEANCE RGB PRO Series DDR4 overclocked memory lights up your PC with mesmerizing dynamic multi-zone RGB lighting, while delivering the best in DDR4 performance.

www.corsair.com

The fact that you are where you are, yes, makes it a lot more difficult but also many of the basic G.Skill Ripjaws kits will work fine if you get a kit that has an even numbered CL latency, CL14, CL16, CL18, with the preference of course being CL14 if you can find AND afford it, and basically ANY other kit from ANY other brand, if it is 2933MT/s, 3000MT/s or 3200MT/s AND also CL14 because those are almost certainly going to be Samsung B-die IC kits that have almost always worked for Ryzen platforms regardless of board model.

 

[thestryker]

The problem is I can only find 3200, 3600, 2666 (which I currently have). Also 2133 mhz. Not many options here in Macedonia I'm limited to very few models unfortunately

You'd have to manually tune any memory you got down to 2933-3000 then if you buy higher speed.

 

[Darkbreeze]

Actually, lots of B450 systems with 2nd Gen Ryzen processors will run memory at 3200MT/s if you buy a very good memory kit and have a really decent board. Unfortunately, that isn't a "really decent board". It's very much basic entry level.

And almost none will run memory at 3000MT/s no matter how much tuning you do. It's generally either 2933MT/s or lower, or 3200MT/s with a very good kit and perhaps SOME manual tuning of the timings in some cases. Generally though, regardless of board, when using 2nd Gen Ryzen, you are usually going to hit your ceiling at 2933MT/s.

 

[ShyRyzenGamer]

So, if the G.Skill memory configurator says it is compatible for your SPECIFIC motherboard MODEL, then it is, pretty much regardless of CPU model. In truth, if you stick to Neos kits from G.Skill, you will almost certainly be ok.

The problem I see though, is that your board is not even listed on the G.Skill memory configurator, so I'm not sure how you could have seen it showing as compatible.

RAM Configurator - G.SKILL International Enterprise Co., Ltd.

Find compatible memory kits for your motherboard. Just select the motherboard from the dropdown list and click on Search for a list of compatible G.SKILL memory kits.

www.gskill.com

I will tell you this though, if you want a G.Skill kit, or ANY kit really, that is going to work on that B450 board with your 2nd Gen Ryzen, you would be VERY wise to stick with memory that is 2933MT/s or less. Also, it is not "mhz". It is MT/s, and they are totally not the same thing.

Also, there is no B450 S2H v2, it does not exist according to Gigabyte. There IS however a B450M S2H v2, which is an important detail, because the M means it's a micro ATX board. The lack of the M on a same named model means it's a standard ATX model.

This kit is compatible, but it's Corsair, so if it's available it's an option for you.

VENGEANCE® RGB PRO 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 DRAM 2933MHz C16 AMD Ryzen Memory Kit — Black

CORSAIR VENGEANCE RGB PRO Series DDR4 overclocked memory lights up your PC with mesmerizing dynamic multi-zone RGB lighting, while delivering the best in DDR4 performance.

www.corsair.com

The fact that you are where you are, yes, makes it a lot more difficult but also many of the basic G.Skill Ripjaws kits will work fine if you get a kit that has an even numbered CL latency, CL14, CL16, CL18, with the preference of course being CL14 if you can find AND afford it, and basically ANY other kit from ANY other brand, if it is 2933MT/s, 3000MT/s or 3200MT/s AND also CL14 because those are almost certainly going to be Samsung B-die IC kits that have almost always worked for Ryzen platforms regardless of board model.

Thanks man! I can find the same mobo on the GIGABYTE official website, how is it possible then to not exist. About the Mt/s, where do you even see that, everything states mhz but not Mt/s?

 

[thestryker]

About the Mt/s, where do you even see that, everything states mhz but not Mt/s?

Pretty much everyone misnames it and I'm not totally sure when it began. Megatransfers is the correct terminology because current system memory is double data rate (DDR, which means it's doing two data transfers per clock cycle) so 3200 DRAM is actually running 1600mhz.

 

[ShyRyzenGamer]

Pretty much everyone misnames it and I'm not totally sure when it began. Megatransfers is the correct terminology because current system memory is double data rate (DDR, which means it's doing two data transfers per clock cycle) so 3200 DRAM is actually running 1600

But that 1600 is actually if you have 2 modules so they split it right? This is what i understood from my research not sure if it's right

 

[ShyRyzenGamer]

Actually, lots of B450 systems with 2nd Gen Ryzen processors will run memory at 3200MT/s if you buy a very good memory kit and have a really decent board. Unfortunately, that isn't a "really decent board". It's very much basic entry level.

And almost none will run memory at 3000MT/s no matter how much tuning you do. It's generally either 2933MT/s or lower, or 3200MT/s with a very good kit and perhaps SOME manual tuning of the timings in some cases. Generally though, regardless of board, when using 2nd Gen Ryzen, you are usually going to hit your ceiling at 2933MT/s

So 3200 mhz(Mt/s) wouldn't really be the best suit but if I can't find any then 3200 should do the job?

 

[thestryker]

But that 1600 is actually if you have 2 modules so they split it right? This is what i understood from my research not sure if it's right

No, for all DDR memory the mhz is half whatever the data rate is (ex: 3200 = 1600 mhz, 3600 = 1800 mhz, 5600 = 2800 mhz) and these two things don't change no matter how many modules you're using.

Desktop PCs can use memory in dual or single channel mode and this determines the memory bus width which impacts memory bandwidth predominantly. When using a single memory module the bus width is 64-bit and when you add a second it goes to 128-bit, but since they're dual channel if you move up to 4 memory modules it's still the same 128-bit bus.

 

[ShyRyzenGamer]

So, if the G.Skill memory configurator says it is compatible for your SPECIFIC motherboard MODEL, then it is, pretty much regardless of CPU model. In truth, if you stick to Neos kits from G.Skill, you will almost certainly be ok.

The problem I see though, is that your board is not even listed on the G.Skill memory configurator, so I'm not sure how you could have seen it showing as compatible.

RAM Configurator - G.SKILL International Enterprise Co., Ltd.

Find compatible memory kits for your motherboard. Just select the motherboard from the dropdown list and click on Search for a list of compatible G.SKILL memory kits.

www.gskill.com

I will tell you this though, if you want a G.Skill kit, or ANY kit really, that is going to work on that B450 board with your 2nd Gen Ryzen, you would be VERY wise to stick with memory that is 2933MT/s or less. Also, it is not "mhz". It is MT/s, and they are totally not the same thing.

Also, there is no B450 S2H v2, it does not exist according to Gigabyte. There IS however a B450M S2H v2, which is an important detail, because the M means it's a micro ATX board. The lack of the M on a same named model means it's a standard ATX model.

This kit is compatible, but it's Corsair, so if it's available it's an option for you.

VENGEANCE® RGB PRO 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 DRAM 2933MHz C16 AMD Ryzen Memory Kit — Black

CORSAIR VENGEANCE RGB PRO Series DDR4 overclocked memory lights up your PC with mesmerizing dynamic multi-zone RGB lighting, while delivering the best in DDR4 performance.

www.corsair.com

The fact that you are where you are, yes, makes it a lot more difficult but also many of the basic G.Skill Ripjaws kits will work fine if you get a kit that has an even numbered CL latency, CL14, CL16, CL18, with the preference of course being CL14 if you can find AND afford it, and basically ANY other kit from ANY other brand, if it is 2933MT/s, 3000MT/s or 3200MT/s AND also CL14 because those are almost certainly going to be Samsung B-die IC kits that have almost always worked for Ryzen platforms regardless of board model.

Sorry to bother you, I've found some Neo kits but all with 3600 mts ( F4-3600C18D-16GTZN) and this one F4-3600C18D-16GTZR.

Do you think i could spent my money better on different kits because I can't get that maximum out of these kits? On the other hand how do I even find what's compatible for my mobo/ CPU...

 

[thestryker]

Sorry to bother you, I've found some Neo kits but all with 3600 mts ( F4-3600C18D-16GTZN) and this one F4-3600C18D-16GTZR.

Do you think i could spent my money better on different kits because I can't get that maximum out of these kits? On the other hand how do I even find what's compatible for my mobo/ CPU...

Okay let's make this simple for you:

The QVL lists for this motherboard seem very odd in general and I'm not sure how useful they are. The memory kits you mention aren't on any of the QVLs and only the Zen 2 one shows any 3600 period. On the G.Skill site their QVLs for these two kits show zero B450 motherboard support.

Your CPU supports up to 2933 and the memory controllers on Zen+ aren't very good so don't expect to go above this period.

If you buy anything above 2933 expect to have to manually tune it down to 2933.

 

[Darkbreeze]

No, for all DDR memory the mhz is half whatever the data rate is (ex: 3200 = 1600 mhz, 3600 = 1800 mhz, 5600 = 2800 mhz) and these two things don't change no matter how many modules you're using.

Desktop PCs can use memory in dual or single channel mode and this determines the memory bus width which impacts memory bandwidth predominantly. When using a single memory module the bus width is 64-bit and when you add a second it goes to 128-bit, but since they're dual channel if you move up to 4 memory modules it's still the same 128-bit bus.

This is correct. There is no argument against it because it is fact.

Okay let's make this simple for you:

The QVL lists for this motherboard seem very odd in general and I'm not sure how useful they are. The memory kits you mention aren't on any of the QVLs and only the Zen 2 one shows any 3600 period. On the G.Skill site their QVLs for these two kits show zero B450 motherboard support.

Your CPU supports up to 2933 and the memory controllers on Zen+ aren't very good so don't expect to go above this period.

If you buy anything above 2933 expect to have to manually tune it down to 2933.

This, as I said earlier in this thread, is also fact. Some few very good boards with very good memory kits will be able to achieve 3200MT/s with Zen+ processors installed, but most will be limited to 2933MT/s