RAM memory compatibility

[Gameretf]

Hello

I need help !!!
Whether the memory kingston 4 GB KVR13S9S8/4 is compatible with my notebook
HP pavilion dv6 3030em ???

I already have Kingston 4GB KVR1333D3S9/4G, when i add kingston KVR13S9S8/4 system fail to boot ....

Thanks in advance everyone ....

 

[evyosh]

can you show us a pic of your old RAM and the new RAM. so we can see.... weird thing is there site dont mention that specific detail regarding the RAM.

 

[Gameretf]

can you show us a pic of your old RAM and the new RAM. so we can see.... weird thing is there site dont mention that specific detail regarding the RAM.

The story about this RAM is following. About two months ago i buy this RAM try and i have same problem.
I returned back to story where I bought and they sent RAM in their service to check. After some time they called me and said that the RAM is broken and that I will get a new. I got this "new" RAM a few days ago but the problem remained the same.

I called them and their response is that: it is highly unlikely that the new RAM is not working and that is the problem in my notebook. I'm not an expert about hardware but I think they are wrong.

On this link is picture with my old and new RAM:

http://imgur.com/BwiwsqU

When insert a new RAM only I have the following:

http://imgur.com/jLfXRzX

But when combine old and new my computer restarting all the time.

I did a test with Memtest86 when both RAM is in my computer and result is: unexpected interrupt halting cpu0.

http://imgur.com/Xzv7E1b

If someone can me confirm whether the problem with a laptop or new RAM I would be grateful.
I payed this new RAM obout 33,59 USD in my country. I do not want to throw money at something that's broken.

On this links is detailed specifications for this two RAM's:

http://www.kingston.com/dataSheets/KVR1333D3S9_4G.pdf
http://www.kingston.com/dataSheets/KVR13S9S8_4.pdf

And this is a memory specification for my laptop:

http://imgur.com/Flne0e9

Excuse my bad English

 

[brispuss]

The HP Pavilion dv6 3030em supports memory with densities up to 2 Gb.

Kingston ValueRAM module, part number KVR13S9S8/4, uses 4 Gb memory chips which are not compatible with the system. The Kingston ValueRAM module, part number KVR1333D3S9/4G, uses 2 Gb memory chips which works with the computer.

 

[Gameretf]

The HP Pavilion dv6 3030em supports memory with densities up to 2 Gb.

Kingston ValueRAM module, part number KVR13S9S8/4, uses 4 Gb memory chips which are not compatible with the system. The Kingston ValueRAM module, part number KVR1333D3S9/4G, uses 2 Gb memory chips which works with the computer.

Thank you for the answer!!!

If you could tell me how to check system memory densities compatibility for my or some other systems??
Is there any program for that or the answer can be found in some of the documents for specific systems??

I'd like to learn how to do it.

 

[evyosh]

one of my friend had a similar issue when i upgraded MY laptop RAM. DDR version and what MHz is not enough.... (I matched the DDR and the MHz Speed and that didnt work... my laptop didnt bootup at all just the back light)
so wht i did was i took my laptop to them as well.. and they matched it up with my old ram. did you take your Laptop to them?

check this link below.
http://www.crucial.com/usa/en/systemscanner

 

[Gameretf]

one of my friend had a similar issue when i upgraded MY laptop RAM. DDR version and what MHz is not enough.... (I matched the DDR and the MHz Speed and that didnt work... my laptop didnt bootup at all just the back light)
so wht i did was i took my laptop to them as well.. and they matched it up with my old ram. did you take your Laptop to them?

check this link below.
http://www.crucial.com/usa/en/systemscanner

They suggested me to send them a notebook, but it does not suit me considering to their service is located in another city and it could take a lot of time to do this and I need a computer for my job.

I never paid attention to the density of memory while shopping earlier and never had a problem, obvious that I was lucky then But at least I now learned !!!

 

[brispuss]

The HP Pavilion dv6 3030em supports memory with densities up to 2 Gb.

Kingston ValueRAM module, part number KVR13S9S8/4, uses 4 Gb memory chips which are not compatible with the system. The Kingston ValueRAM module, part number KVR1333D3S9/4G, uses 2 Gb memory chips which works with the computer.

Thank you for the answer!!!

If you could tell me how to check system memory densities compatibility for my or some other systems??
Is there any program for that or the answer can be found in some of the documents for specific systems??

I'd like to learn how to do it.

Memory chip densities are usually quoted in Mega bits (Mb) or in Giga bits (Gb).

Memory chip density = number of memory cell locations in memory chip (usually in millions (M), or in billions (G)) x memory chip data width in bits (b).
For example, a certain memory chip might be of 256M x 8 bit configuration. The 256M means there are ~ 256 million memory cell locations, and the 8 means the memory data width is 8 bits. So memory chip density = 256M x 8 bits = 2048 million bits ~ 2 Giga bits = 2 Gb.

The memory chip configuration details are sometimes available from memory module manufacturers, and are also available from memory chip manufacturers.

The limitation of memory density that can be used in a system is dependent on the memory controller which sets the range of compatible memory densities that can be used. The memory controller is integrated into CPU's these days, but early memory controllers were integrated within chipsets.

Information on memory density compatibility with memory controllers is available from Intel website where details of CPU's and chipsets can be viewed and/or downloaded. Unfortunately detailed information for AMD CPU's and chipsets are usually not readily available, so it can't be determined for certain what memory chip densities are supported in AMD based systems.

So the procedure for determining memory density compatibility is to first find the limitations/range of memory chip density that are compatible with the memory controller by viewing the detailed CPU or chipset documentation from the CPU or chipset manufacturer.

Then view and/or download memory chip configuration details for memory modules of interest at memory module manufacturers websites, or at memory chip manufacturers websites. In some cases memory chip details are not provided by memory module manufacturers unfortunately, so it can't be determined what the density of memory chips are.

Calculate memory chip density using above formula if memory chip density is not already provided by the manufacturer. If the density of the memory chip is outside the range of compatible memory chip density for the memory controller, then the memory chip (and therefore the memory module) will not be compatible. Otherwise the memory chip and, therefore the memory module, should be compatible with the memory controller.

 

[Gameretf]

The HP Pavilion dv6 3030em supports memory with densities up to 2 Gb.

Kingston ValueRAM module, part number KVR13S9S8/4, uses 4 Gb memory chips which are not compatible with the system. The Kingston ValueRAM module, part number KVR1333D3S9/4G, uses 2 Gb memory chips which works with the computer.

Thank you for the answer!!!

If you could tell me how to check system memory densities compatibility for my or some other systems??
Is there any program for that or the answer can be found in some of the documents for specific systems??

I'd like to learn how to do it.

Memory chip densities are usually quoted in Mega bits (Mb) or in Giga bits (Gb).

Memory chip density = number of memory cell locations in memory chip (usually in millions (M), or in billions (G)) x memory chip data width in bits (b).
For example, a certain memory chip might be of 256M x 8 bit configuration. The 256M means there are ~ 256 million memory cell locations, and the 8 means the memory data width is 8 bits. So memory chip density = 256M x 8 bits = 2048 million bits ~ 2 Giga bits = 2 Gb.

The memory chip configuration details are sometimes available from memory module manufacturers, and are also available from memory chip manufacturers.

The limitation of memory density that can be used in a system is dependent on the memory controller which sets the range of compatible memory densities that can be used. The memory controller is integrated into CPU's these days, but early memory controllers were integrated within chipsets.

Information on memory density compatibility with memory controllers is available from Intel website where details of CPU's and chipsets can be viewed and/or downloaded. Unfortunately detailed information for AMD CPU's and chipsets are usually not readily available, so it can't be determined for certain what memory chip densities are supported in AMD based systems.

So the procedure for determining memory density compatibility is to first find the limitations/range of memory chip density that are compatible with the memory controller by viewing the detailed CPU or chipset documentation from the CPU or chipset manufacturer.

Then view and/or download memory chip configuration details for memory modules of interest at memory module manufacturers websites, or at memory chip manufacturers websites. In some cases memory chip details are not provided by memory module manufacturers unfortunately, so it can't be determined what the density of memory chips are.

Calculate memory chip density using above formula if memory chip density is not already provided by the manufacturer. If the density of the memory chip is outside the range of compatible memory chip density for the memory controller, then the memory chip (and therefore the memory module) will not be compatible. Otherwise the memory chip and, therefore the memory module, should be compatible with the memory controller.

Thank you very much for a thorough explanation !!!

 

[brispuss]

You're welcome!