Ran out of ideas fixing my PC

[xaos24]

Good day guys

I am having issues with my pc lately. Seems like my gpu is causing this but not I'm sure because I've tested my gpu on another pc, well it was running fine. When I tried running on my pc, its just black screen after windows logo and then I cant even access bios because it freezes right after entering bios. Would appreciate if there are any ideas in troubleshooting.

Here are some of the troubleshooting ive done but to no avail:
1. Replace my board with a new one(the old mobo still have the same symptoms, thought maybe replacing the board will do and the old mobo doesnt freezes in bios but only displays 1/4 of the bios screen but if your hover your mouse to the side it views the other 1/4 part of the bios screen)

2. Replace the PSU

3. Memtest

4. Drive sweep using DDU(After performing this, it will eventually get past windows loading screen but during installation of the gpu drivers it just went black. I noticed also that my resolution is locked to 800x600)

5. Ive also tried running without the GPU and the pc works fine.

Would appreciate you advice guys. TIA

CPU: i5 3470
GPU: Zotac 1050ti OC ed
Memory 2x4gb Kingston KVR13N9S8/4
PSU: Seasonic S12II-620 Bronze
OS: Windows 10

 

[boju]

Weird one.

Whats your motherboard?

What are the system specs of the system the gpu works in?

Just a guess, have you changed bios uefi or legacy settings lately?

 

[boju]

If the cable you used on another pc was different, try that one.

 

[xaos24]

Weird one.

Whats your motherboard?

What are the system specs of the system the gpu works in?

Just a guess, have you changed bios uefi or legacy settings lately?

My new Mobo is Gigabyte H61M-DS2 rev 5. The old one as Asrock H61M-VG4

My cousin's specs is:
CPU: Intel G3930
Mobo: Asus H110M-K
Memory: 4GB(Not sure of the brand, stickers print are faded)
PSU: Corsair VS550
OS: Windows 7

The settings are on default. I haven't changed the bios settings lately

Its the same cables I used also. I tried using my cousin's pc now and place my HDD to test it on gaming and results was fine. Right now im testing it on Tom Clancy's Wildlands. I've also tried resetting my pc and still has the same problem.

 

[boju]

I suggest updating your bios if you haven't yet.

During post/Bios, if you might not be aware, Windows and drivers aren't loaded yet so they have no impact, it's just pure hardware during this time. So if your bios is freezing / missing part of the screen maybe pcie contacts are a bit dirty? Your board is new (second hand) unless its got the same problem?

Can't see it being psu since you've tried that already.

Check your case isn't blocking the video port a bit of the plug, sometimes that can happen and video cable isnt all the way in.

I'm just thinking of things that are on hardware level, as i said your bios problems have nothing to do with windows/drivers.

It is a tough one. If you dont mind, think theres one of these buggers in there...... lol

 

[Saga Lout]

Can you test the Voltage coming out of the power cable to the card and compare it with the Voltage supplied to the other machine?

 

[boju]

Good suggestion testing pcie cable with multimeter.

Should mention if it gave any ideas to try another pcie cable to make sure its original. If you have spares for the same psu use those.

Modular (if thats what your psu's have been) cables aren't interchangeable, the pinouts on psu end can be different and the cables the brand supplies can be wired a certain way. So an Corsair pcie cable might be different to say Antec and mixing cables can cause damage.

Same goes for any other modular power connector

 

[xaos24]

I suggest updating your bios if you haven't yet.

During post/Bios, if you might not be aware, Windows and drivers aren't loaded yet so they have no impact, it's just pure hardware during this time. So if your bios is freezing / missing part of the screen maybe pcie contacts are a bit dirty? Your board is new (second hand) unless its got the same problem?

Can't see it being psu since you've tried that already.

Check your case isn't blocking the video port a bit of the plug, sometimes that can happen and video cable isnt all the way in.

I'm just thinking of things that are on hardware level, as i said your bios problems have nothing to do with windows/drivers.

It is a tough one. If you dont mind, think theres one of these buggers in there...... lol

Can you test the Voltage coming out of the power cable to the card and compare it with the Voltage supplied to the other machine?

Tried to do a general cleaning on the pc then plug it all still them same. Since my card doesnt require pcie cable, how do i measure how much juice my card is getting?

 

[boju]

Cleaning only goes so far. Its good that you cleaned it but you're going to have to try the other suggestions we suggested

 

[xaos24]

Cleaning only goes so far. Its good that you cleaned it but you're going to have to try the other suggestions we suggested

I dont have that multimeter thing yet, might as well borrow from someone. Another thing also is that my card doesnt require pcie cable to be plugged in, is there other way to know how much my card is getting juice?

 

[boju]

Good point i forgot to ask about pcie cable, sorry.

The two mobos you tried are from the same chipset family, maybe updating bios might give better compatibility.

How your system behaves in bios boggles me

 

[xaos24]

Good point i forgot to ask about pcie cable, sorry.

The two mobos you tried are from the same chipset family, maybe updating bios might give better compatibility.

How your system behaves in bios boggles me

Oh right Im sorry I forgot to mention that Ive tried updating the mobo also. Yeah youre right, it boggles me too as to why this gpu is somewhat choosy HAHA. This gpu is just almost a year of use now, I just game on it too not mine

 

[Saga Lout]

Sorry, my bad. I always assume gaming cards are fed separate power.

I still suspect Voltage though and if you can swap the PSU out for the one that works in the other system, it's worth a shot.

 

[boju]

Yeah worth a shot.

I dont remember if you discussed trying another gpu in this system, have you tried the gpu from that other system the 1050 works in?

 

[xaos24]

Sorry, my bad. I always assume gaming cards are fed separate power.

I still suspect Voltage though and if you can swap the PSU out for the one that works in the other system, it's worth a shot.

No worries saga. I tried earlier using the PSU of my cousin, connected it to my system and still no avail.

 

[xaos24]

Yeah worth a shot.

I dont remember if you discussed trying another gpu in this system, have you tried the gpu from that other system the 1050 works in?

That's worth a shot trying other gpu. Although my cousin's pc doesnt have gpu, I might think of where I can borrow one though. Hehe

 

[Saga Lout]

If it can't properly display the BIOS screen in monochrome, it's no surprise that it can't show a Windows system and power those two fans at the same time.

For me, power is the prime suspect and it might take the motherboard down with it soon.

 

[Saga Lout]

Here's another thought. I can't track down any information on this but I seem to recall some 1050ti cards were being sold on e-Bay and were actually 550ti re-mastered by Chinese clone makers.

Has yours ever worked? Does it stand up to a minute examination in comparison with your other one?

 

[xaos24]

If it can't properly display the BIOS screen in monochrome, it's no surprise that it can't show a Windows system and power those two fans at the same time.

For me, power is the prime suspect and it might take the motherboard down with it soon.

Here's another thought. I can't track down any information on this but I seem to recall some 1050ti cards were being sold on e-Bay and were actually 550ti re-mastered by Chinese clone makers.

Has yours ever worked? Does it stand up to a minute examination in comparison with your other one?

Hmmm, might be its the PSU since this PSU has been in my service for almost 7 years now. Maybe he's trying to give up now(LOL). Although I've tested the system on a different PSU which still has the same result. This GPU has only been about 9 months now and bought it brand new from our trusted local seller, so I trust that this GPU is not one of those 550ti those Chinese are scheming up to.

I might also try using other CPU or Memory to eliminate them from my suspicion hehe

 

[boju]

Cpu would be near the only thing left to try.

Surprisingly two motherboards showed similar malfunctions so maybe it is the cpu.

Your not putting to much heatsink pressure on cpu? The tension screws just need to finger tight then half turn with screw driver.

 

[Saga Lout]

One other more thing is the old standard - remove one RAM stick and try the system without it then put it back and remove the other to repeat the process.

There's no logical reasoning behind this step but it's one I try on just about every mysterious situation that comes into my shop and every so often, it points to what's wrong.

In other words, I'm out of suggestions on this one.

 

[xaos24]

Cpu would be near the only thing left to try.

Surprisingly two motherboards showed similar malfunctions so maybe it is the cpu.

Your not putting to much heatsink pressure on cpu? The tension screws just need to finger tight then half turn with screw driver.

One other more thing is the old standard - remove one RAM stick and try the system without it then put it back and remove the other to repeat the process.

There's no logical reasoning behind this step but it's one I try on just about every mysterious situation that comes into my shop and every so often, it points to what's wrong.

In other words, I'm out of suggestions on this one.

Hey guys, just fixed this issue. I was all out of option until I stumble upon a weird / unusual fix posted on a forum, I think that was a dell forum, so hey why not try this maybe this will work right? Their advice was, unplug all connectors from your monitor for about 30 secs then plug it again. To my surprise, I was on BIOS with no freezing whatsoever. Hope this helps to some also having somewhat the same issue to try this weird / unusual fix

 

[Saga Lout]

Weird is forgiveable if it works. Well done.