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i've been using ATI radeon's since the Radeon 64DDR.

And that issue you posted I ran into it and was able to recover from a restore point so wasn't a big deal for me. However the driver was also pushed out on patch tuesday. So that contributed to the situation since some users's PC had a pending reboot that was needed before installing the driver.

That didn't change my outlook on anything i've been doing this since I was 10 so i've seen 30+ years of weird quirky issues with products from all vendors.
 
Makaveli said:
i've been using ATI radeon's since the Radeon 64DDR.

And that issue you posted I ran into it and was able to recover from a restore point so wasn't a big deal for me. However the driver was also pushed out on patch tuesday. So that contributed to the situation since some users's PC had a pending reboot that was needed before installing the driver.

That didn't change my outlook on anything i've been doing this since I was 10 so i've seen 30+ years of weird quirky issues with products from all vendors.
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And you laughed at me? Thank you for making my point.
 
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evdjj3j said:
And you laughed at me?
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yes I did the sky isn't falling.

And for someone with my experience a big nothing burger.

i've survived 20+ years on their drivers I must be the luckiest person on the planet or some kind of super genius lol.

Both vendors run into issues with drivers from time to time lets actually be honest here. There are plenty of post in their forums.


You are free to make whatever points you want its a free country.
 
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yes I did the sky isn't falling.

And for someone with my experience a big nothing burger.

i've survived 20+ years on their drivers I must be the luckiest person on the planet or some kind of super genius lol.
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The amount of time you spent fixing that I would rather spend being able to game.
 
Lisa needs to fire everyone involved with Radeon drivers. Not having the fastest hardware in terms of ray-tracing or raster is not an excuse to have poor software. AMD has always been behind nVidia in this regard. There aren't any excuses other than incompetence in their software department.
 
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amd drivers are for the people who want spend more time improvising than gaming... remove this, that and that other thing to get some fps lol.
When have amd graphics on the system its automatically disable shadows.
 
umeng2002_2 said:
Lisa needs to fire everyone involved with Radeon drivers. Not having the fastest hardware in terms of ray-tracing or raster is not an excuse to have poor software. AMD has always been behind nVidia in this regard. There aren't any excuses other than incompetence in their software department.
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It's more complicated than that. They don't have the market share, and therefore game devs give them less effort in testing and optimization.
 
evdjj3j said:
Don't lie, even if you had to just run system restore without having to research the issue it would still take longer than 60 seconds. AMD's drivers have always had issues and everyone knows it.
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Funny, last time I had driver problems were with Nvidia - I had to run DDU twice to fix a problem with the latest Nvidia driver not working with a GTX 1060 and a RTX 3060 when I performed a GPU swap, eventhough the same driver package is supposed to work with both.
As a matter of fact, this "AMD driver bricking Windows" was caused by AMD implementing a simplified version of DDU in their driver that interfered with a Windows update that played havoc on Windows' UEFI boot process (removed the simplified display driver needed for boot - one would think it would fall back gracefully to a VESA one, or to text mode, but noooo... Windows Update bricking Windows isn't new either).
Also, I don't have to register my email with AMD to access driver parameters; with Nvidia, you have to. That's terrible design.
Finaly, if Nixxes release a game without testing on the major cards, it's their fault it doesn't work on day one - it really is irresponsible to release without testing at all - a direct crash isn't exactly hard to reproduce, nor is it costly to send an email to AMD saying, "we have this game coming out, it crashes on your hardware, here's the stack trace".
 
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Funny, last time I had driver problems were with Nvidia - I had to run DDU twice to fix a problem with the latest Nvidia driver not working with a GTX 1060 and a RTX 3060 when I performed a GPU swap, eventhough the same driver package is supposed to work with both.
As a matter of fact, this "AMD driver bricking Windows" was caused by AMD implementing a simplified version of DDU in their driver that interfered with a Windows update that played havoc on Windows' UEFI boot process (removed the simplified display driver needed for boot - one would think it would fall back gracefully to a VESA one, or to text mode, but noooo... Windows Update bricking Windows isn't new either).
Also, I don't have to register my email with AMD to access driver parameters; with Nvidia, you have to. That's terrible design.
Finaly, if Nixxes release a game without testing on the major cards, it's their fault it doesn't work on day one - it really is irresponsible to release without testing at all - a direct crash isn't exactly hard to reproduce, nor is it costly to send an email to AMD saying, "we have this game coming out, it crashes on your hardware, here's the stack trace".
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That's OK, I'm not going to buy an AMD GPU. I love their CPUs but I've been burned by the GPUs too many times.
 
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amd drivers are for the people who want spend more time improvising than gaming... remove this, that and that other thing to get some fps lol.
When have amd graphics on the system its automatically disable shadows.
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Your last sentence is unreadable. What do you mean?
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Funny, last time I had driver problems were with Nvidia - I had to run DDU twice to fix a problem with the latest Nvidia driver not working with a GTX 1060 and a RTX 3060 when I performed a GPU swap, eventhough the same driver package is supposed to work with both.
As a matter of fact, this "AMD driver bricking Windows" was caused by AMD implementing a simplified version of DDU in their driver that interfered with a Windows update that played havoc on Windows' UEFI boot process (removed the simplified display driver needed for boot - one would think it would fall back gracefully to a VESA one, or to text mode, but noooo... Windows Update bricking Windows isn't new either).
Also, I don't have to register my email with AMD to access driver parameters; with Nvidia, you have to. That's terrible design.
Finaly, if Nixxes release a game without testing on the major cards, it's their fault it doesn't work on day one - it really is irresponsible to release without testing at all - a direct crash isn't exactly hard to reproduce, nor is it costly to send an email to AMD saying, "we have this game coming out, it crashes on your hardware, here's the stack trace".
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on AMD's defense. I have a 4090 and had crashes when RTX to highest. Reducing it to high resolved all the issues.

So there must be something funky with the amount of rays or ray life/bounces in the highest settings.
 
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Don't lie, even if you had to just run system restore without having to research the issue it would still take longer than 60 seconds. AMD's drivers have always had issues and everyone knows it.
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That is no lie.

I went to the restore point and use it then the system rebooted.

Why would I lie about that?

How long do you think it takes to use a restore point lol.

Hmm system doesn't boot go into recovery mode and load restore point.

maybe for you that is a longer process but not I
 
evdjj3j said:
That's OK, I'm not going to buy an AMD GPU. I love their CPUs but I've been burned by the GPUs too many times.
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Oh, I had problems with AMD GPUs too - a couple of them died after 4-5 years of use, Linux drivers (Catalyst) used to be terrible, OpenGL performance on Windows was cringe-worthy... I did switch to Nvidia a coupe times. But, right now, AMD hardware is good bang for buck and software isn't a hindrance like Nvidia's can be.
 
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