Build Advice Rate my build and what can I do to save money ?

[Gamefreaknet]

The original intention was to make a capable m-itx desktop gaming build for around £1000.

Component		Selection	Price
CPU			Intel Core i5-13600KF 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor	£273.04	Buy
CPU Cooler			Vetroo V240 52 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler	£69.98	Buy
Motherboard			Gigabyte Z690I AORUS ULTRA Mini ITX LGA1700 Motherboard	£203.56	Buy
Memory			Corsair Vengeance RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL36 Memory	£97.99	Buy
Storage			Corsair MP600 CORE XT 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive	£199.99	Buy
Video Card			Acer Predator BiFrost OC Arc A770 16 GB Video Card	£304.00	Buy
Case			MagniumGear Neo Mini V2 Mini ITX Desktop Case	£59.99	Buy
Power Supply			Gigabyte P850GM 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	£83.99	Buy
Monitor			KOORUI QHD Curved 27 Inch Monitor, Fast VA Computer Gaming Monitor(2560 * 1440P, R1800, 144Hz, 1ms, DCI-P3 85%, DP+HDMI, Game Mode, Eye Protection, Rocker Button), Narrow Bezel on Three Sides (link here)	£169.99
Total:	£1456.67

The case I can acknowledge is low airflow, however the only parts using air cooling majorly would be my GPU since my CPU will be liquid cooled.
I did consider going for a 12600K (for some reason the KF is more expensive than the K here).
Considering the ARC A770 performs similarly to a 4070 at about the same price as a 3060ti (obvious choice there for me)
I intend to later on upgrade the RAM to 64GB and use the 2nd M.2. slot. For some reason on my laptop and current desktop the M.2s got setup in RAID which makes expanding from a lower capacity to a higher capacity awkward so I went for 4TB and will add another 4TB M.2 later. (And will add whatever the Max capacity SATA SSD it can take aswell.... Is the max capacity SATA SSD for my PC 4TB or 8TB?)
The Monitor whilst slightly cheaper than a lot of other similar 1440p monitors seems decent enough. (Although it does apparently setback some of the ports to older versions (one of the HDMIs is 1.4 and the DP input is 1.2)

(Note on the SSD chosen: I did a Versus stat check here against similarly priced SSDs and the SSD I have selected (although not the exact model) did show better stats.

 

[Aeacus]

If you ask rate, you'll get the roast. E.g like so:

CPU - KF-series = no iGPU. So, when you have issues with your GPU, you're toast. No convenient option to hook monitor to MoBo and continue using PC. So, no redundancy there.

CPU cooler - You do realize that AIO is also cooled by ambient air, right? Just because there is liquid in it, doesn't make it better. Heat transfer just takes place in another spot (rad). And of course, AIOs last 2-3 years. High-end ones 3-5 years. And with AIO, pump usually dies, which means your CPU has 0 cooling what-so-ever. With tower-type air cooler, only thing that can go bad on it, is cheap 120/140mm fan. Easy to replace, while still having cooling capacity on CPU, even if fan stops.
With the PC case you picked, you can put Noctua big boy in there, e.g NH-D15S.

M.2 drive - That Corsair drive is barebones with mediocre performance. Sure, it's cheap but for my personal taste, i'd get the best (Samsung), since after all, my personal data is valuable for me and i wouldn't risk it with mediocre drive.
MP600 review: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/corsair-mp600-core-xt-ssd-review

PC case - bland box. Then again, choosing a PC case is personal choice and what others think of it, doesn't matter.

Monitor - cheap Chinese brand. Gives me Acer knock-off vibes.

PSU - "Boom!".

Vid 1:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aACtT_rzToI


Vid 2:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xts3pvbcFos


Vid 3:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JmPUr-BeEM


Recall: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/gigabyte-full-refund-product-exchange-explosive-psus

Do i need to say more about PSU?

 

[Gamefreaknet]

If you ask rate, you'll get the roast. E.g like so:

CPU - KF-series = no iGPU. So, when you have issues with your GPU, you're toast. No convenient option to hook monitor to MoBo and continue using PC. So, no redundancy there.

CPU cooler - You do realize that AIO is also cooled by ambient air, right? Just because there is liquid in it, doesn't make it better. Heat transfer just takes place in another spot (rad). And of course, AIOs last 2-3 years. High-end ones 3-5 years. And with AIO, pump usually dies, which means your CPU has 0 cooling what-so-ever. With tower-type air cooler, only thing that can go bad on it, is cheap 120/140mm fan. Easy to replace, while still having cooling capacity on CPU, even if fan stops.
With the PC case you picked, you can put Noctua big boy in there, e.g NH-D15S.

M.2 drive - That Corsair drive is barebones with mediocre performance. Sure, it's cheap but for my personal taste, i'd get the best (Samsung), since after all, my personal data is valuable for me and i wouldn't risk it with mediocre drive.
MP600 review: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/corsair-mp600-core-xt-ssd-review

PC case - bland box. Then again, choosing a PC case is personal choice and what others think of it, doesn't matter.

Monitor - cheap Chinese brand. Gives me Acer knock-off vibes.

PSU - "Boom!".

Vid 1:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aACtT_rzToI


Vid 2:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xts3pvbcFos


Vid 3:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JmPUr-BeEM


Recall: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/gigabyte-full-refund-product-exchange-explosive-psus

Do i need to say more about PSU?

Would any of these SSDs be better than the Crucial SSD then:
Crucial P3 Plus 4 TB
MSI Spatium M461 4TB
Kingston NV2 4 TB
TeamGroup T-Force Cardea Z44Q

As for the PSU I have heard of the Gamemax RGB Rainbow Fully Modular 850w but I have heard bad reviews about the Gamemax Brand and the next 2 options for fully modular PSUs at 850w+ would be:
Deepcool DQ-M-V2L - £99.98
Corsair RM850e (2023) - £104.99
(I tend to prefer going for Semi or Fully modular PSUs for "convenience" with cable management for PC builds)

 

[Gamefreaknet]

If you ask rate, you'll get the roast. E.g like so:

CPU - KF-series = no iGPU. So, when you have issues with your GPU, you're toast. No convenient option to hook monitor to MoBo and continue using PC. So, no redundancy there.

CPU cooler - You do realize that AIO is also cooled by ambient air, right? Just because there is liquid in it, doesn't make it better. Heat transfer just takes place in another spot (rad). And of course, AIOs last 2-3 years. High-end ones 3-5 years. And with AIO, pump usually dies, which means your CPU has 0 cooling what-so-ever. With tower-type air cooler, only thing that can go bad on it, is cheap 120/140mm fan. Easy to replace, while still having cooling capacity on CPU, even if fan stops.
With the PC case you picked, you can put Noctua big boy in there, e.g NH-D15S.

M.2 drive - That Corsair drive is barebones with mediocre performance. Sure, it's cheap but for my personal taste, i'd get the best (Samsung), since after all, my personal data is valuable for me and i wouldn't risk it with mediocre drive.
MP600 review: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/corsair-mp600-core-xt-ssd-review

PC case - bland box. Then again, choosing a PC case is personal choice and what others think of it, doesn't matter.

Monitor - cheap Chinese brand. Gives me Acer knock-off vibes.

PSU - "Boom!".

Vid 1:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aACtT_rzToI


Vid 2:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xts3pvbcFos


Vid 3:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JmPUr-BeEM


Recall: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/gigabyte-full-refund-product-exchange-explosive-psus

Do i need to say more about PSU?

Did a revision of the build: (I did check the monitor and reviews from some people say it's decent at 1440p so I stuck with it):

Component		Selection	Base	Promo	Shipping	Tax	Price	Where
CPU			Intel Core i5-13600K 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor	£290.37				£290.37		Buy
CPU Cooler			Vetroo V240 52 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler	£69.98				£69.98		Buy
Motherboard			Gigabyte Z690I AORUS ULTRA Mini ITX LGA1700 Motherboard	£197.72				£197.72		Buy
Memory			Corsair Vengeance RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL36 Memory	£97.99				£97.99		Buy
Storage			TEAMGROUP T-Force Cardea Z44Q 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive	£210.54				£210.54		Buy
Video Card			Acer Predator BiFrost OC Arc A770 16 GB Video Card	£299.00		£5.00		£304.00		Buy
Case			MagniumGear Neo-G Mini V2 Mini ITX Tower Case	£74.90				£74.90		Buy
Power Supply			Corsair RM850e (2023) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	£104.99		FREE		£104.99		Buy
Monitor			KOORUI QHD Curved 27 Inch Monitor, Fast VA Computer Gaming Monitor(2560 * 1440P, R1800, 144Hz, 1ms, DCI-P3 85%, DP+HDMI, Game Mode, Eye Protection, Rocker Button), Narrow Bezel on Three Sides					£169.99
Base Total:	£1515.48
Shipping:	£5.00
Total:	£1520.48

I am trying to stick with M-ITX form factor even though I know i could go for any case size...

 

[Why_Me]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i5-13400F 2.5 GHz 10-Core Processor (£173.99 @ Newegg UK)
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AK400 66.47 CFM CPU Cooler (£38.47 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: *Gigabyte B760 GAMING X DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (£129.59 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: *Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (£59.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: *Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£93.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: *MSI GAMING X TRIO GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12 GB Video Card (£779.99 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: *Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case (£64.98 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: *Corsair RM850e (2023) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£104.99 @ Box Limited)
Case Fan: *ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan (£8.98 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1454.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-24 07:31 BST+0100

 

[Lucky_SLS]

the A770 performs similar to the 3060ti not the 4070. thats in games which got good driver optimisations.

@Why_Me has given you a pretty good partlist with the 13400 and 4070ti in an atx case. and i would suggest that.

itx partlist with 13400 and 6950XT:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-13400F 2.5 GHz 10-Core Processor (£173.99 @ Newegg UK)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool LE500 Marrs 85.85 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (£65.47 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B760I AORUS PRO DDR4 Mini ITX LGA1700 Motherboard (£194.14 @ NeoComputers)
Memory: G.Skill F4-3200C16D-32GTZ 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (£53.45 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£89.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£89.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: XFX Speedster MERC 319 Radeon RX 6950 XT 16 GB Video Card (£585.00 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Corsair 2000D AIRFLOW Mini ITX Tower Case (£99.98 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Cooler Master V750 SFX GOLD 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply (£142.99 @ MoreCoCo)
Total: £1495.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-24 09:39 BST+0100

 

[Aeacus]

Would any of these SSDs be better than the Crucial SSD then:

Well, put the name in Google and read the review.

For M.2 NVMe SSD, the best is Samsung. If Samsung isn't available (i find that hard to believe), then WD drive is next in line. All others have all sorts of issues; most notably poor performance and/or poor reliability.

As for the PSU I have heard of the Gamemax RGB Rainbow Fully Modular 850w but I have heard bad reviews about the Gamemax Brand and the next 2 options for fully modular PSUs at 850w+ would be:
Deepcool DQ-M-V2L - £99.98
Corsair RM850e (2023) - £104.99
(I tend to prefer going for Semi or Fully modular PSUs for "convenience" with cable management for PC builds)

Since PSU powers everything, it is the most important component inside the PC. Thus, never cheap out on PSU. If you can't afford better PSU, get cheaper GPU. Simple as that.

Speaking of your build as a whole, i did put a refined version together but didn't post it earlier. But now seeing that others are posting their build lists, here's what i put together earlier:

Mini-ITX build, as you wanted;

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-13400 2.5 GHz 10-Core Processor (£209.99 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler (£48.55 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B760I AORUS PRO Mini ITX LGA1700 Motherboard (£199.00 @ MoreCoCo)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL36 Memory (£90.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£132.97 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Acer Predator BiFrost OC Arc A770 16 GB Video Card (£304.00 @ Currys PC World)
Case: MagniumGear Neo-G Mini V2 Mini ITX Tower Case (£74.90 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS GX 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£145.47 @ Scan.co.uk)
Monitor: Asus TUF Gaming VG27WQ1B 27.0" 2560 x 1440 165 Hz Curved Monitor (£279.00 @ ASUS)
Total: £1484.86

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-24 13:37 BST+0100

Few changes include; i5-13400 which is still capable CPU. Good CPU cooler, which isn't actually needed. You can ditch it to save 48 quid and use the stock Intel CPU cooler that comes with CPU. A bit cheaper Gigabyte MoBo, which is B760 chipset (you can't OC your i5-13400, so no point getting Z-series MoBo). Normal RAM (without RGB). Solid Samsung drive (4TB version was announced but isn't released yet). Same GPU. Almost same PC case, but the one with front grille for better airflow. Far better PSU, since getting a good PSU matters a lot. And great gaming monitor, not some cheap Chinese knock-off which may die within days.

 

[Lucky_SLS]

^ forgot about the monitor XD

if you prefer something other than the A770:

GPU swap to this: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product...00-16-gb-video-card-rx-6800-gaming-z-trio-16g

and get this monitor: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product...-2560-x-1440-165-hz-curved-monitor-pg27q15r2a

 

[geofelt]

To save a bit, look to a build based on DDR4 ram, not DDR5.
ram and parts are cheaper with ddr4 and the performance is identical.
You will pay extra for the rgb "bling"
If you need more than 32 gb in the future, plan on replacing what you have. ITX motherboards will usually only have two ram slots.
Adding ram is a crapshoot any way, you can't count on non matched ram working properly.
Intel is not sensitive to ram speeds, do not overpay for fast ram. DDR4 3200 is ok, 3600 at most

You get fair value at every price point with 13th gen.
13600K will over time support a much stronger graphics card.
My thought is that a 13400 would be a more appropriate processor for gaming.
Games are not going to make effective use of 20 threads. Multiplayer is a possible exception.
The 13400 comes with a stock cooler.
You should try it first.

The case really seems ok. but, for good cooling, I would plan on two 140mm front intake fans.
140mm fans move more air quietly than 120mm

The psu is fine.

Start with a 2tb m.2 drive. when/if it fills up you can always add storage later.
Do not chase fast sequential benchmarks. Most ssd accesses are random so you could not tell the difference.
Samsung and Intel make their own parts and would be my first choice