[SOLVED] [Rate my Build] Workstation and a little Gaming

[timn1991]

Hey guys,

I'm trying to compile a new build for my needs, but I'm not as well informed as I used to be anymore and I'd appreciate some guidance.

Here's my situation: I have an 8 years old gaming rig (i5-3470, Radeon HD 7800, 8GB RAM) that has served me really well over the years, but now it's time to upgrade. My new system however is not going to be a pure gaming rig, because I don't play games that much anymore. Most of the time it'll be used for (non resource heavy) office work. Although, I'd like to build my system in a way so that I could play the occasional game of whatever piques my interest in the Steam shop, for example.

A friend of mine (hardcore gamer) helped me compile a shopping list (https://pcpartpicker.com/list/g6hhLJ), but I feel like it's a bit much.

My goal: I'd like to use this list as a starting point and then maybe downgrade a little here and there.

My budget: is not set in stone, but I'd like to aim at around $800. I am a value shopper though, which means if I can get significantly more performance for a little more money, then I'll take that.


Thanks in advance guys!

 

[Darkbreeze]

Are you in the US or another country?

The system he has outlined is using hardware which is about four years old and you can build a more capable system for less using a more current platform.

Is your heart set on Intel, because for what you want to do, a Ryzen system with a higher core count seems to be a lot more beneficial however even if you plan to stick with Intel I think we can do much better than a system that is three generations old.

 

[tiaan_strauss]

Hi

I would personally opt for something else than the parts list you linked.

There are a couple issues with the parts list:

32 GB RAM is excessive for anybody that isnt involved in heavy workloads, content creation, streaming etc

The suggested i7 6700k, RAM & motherboard are all a couple years old already. If for whatever reason you decide to upgrade the CPU you will need to upgrade everything as a new CPU will not work with that motherboard & RAM.

I have a linked a build I think better suits your needs & it offers just about the best performance for the money.

Ryzen 2600 - great value CPU that will do great for your productivity needs & is also good for gaming. This is one of the best selling CPUs on the market & gets great reviews. It comes with an included cooler which is surprisingly good & the CPU is also unlocked which means you can manually overclock it to get about another 10% performance if that is something you desire.

MSI B450 - this motherboard has consistently received high reviews & is good value. It will also provide you with an opportunity to overclock the CPU to unlock more performance if that is something that you want in the future. The next generation of Ryzen CPUs will also work on this platform without any problems.

16GB RAM - this is the sweet spot for most users involved in productivity & gaming. Anything more than 16GB is not needed unless you are a content creator, streamer etc.

Rx 570 - a great value graphics card that will allow you to play games at 1080p 60 FPS. You also receive 2 free games with this Gpu For your needs I wouldnt suggest getting anything more expensive. This is a 8GB card, you can get a 4GB model for $130 but I highly suggest spending the extra money & opting for the 8GB as this will serve you better in years to come. (Please note I picked the first RX 570 8GB I saw, you can search for a cheaper model or a brand you prefer - they will all be the same peice range)

1TB SSD - I included a 1TB SSD for $120. This will greatly increase performance of your system if you install your windows, programmes & games on the SSD.

PSU - I went with the corsair 550W, you can add any PSU in the same power range if you find one that is cheaper. I would advise though that you look for a bronze rated efficiency as the one I have listed.

The build I will link comes in at $700 but you need to add a case of your choice & maybe a mechanical HDD.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

All the best & let me know if you need more help

 

[King Dranzer]

Here is the list:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor ($267.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B450M-A/CSM Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($79.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($104.99 @ Newegg Business)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($65.75 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($498.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair - 270R ATX Mid Tower Case ($55.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($53.97 @ Newegg)
Total: $1187.56
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-14 04:42 EST-0500

You should be considering something like this.
32GB RAM is good to have but can be easily upgraded in future by adding second 16GB kit. Instead spend on components which are there to stay for over longer period of time and cannot be upgraded easily or in cost-effective manner.

 

[Darkbreeze]

I sure am glad nobody but me seems to think the OP might be someplace besides the US since the availability and price of parts might be much different wherever they are. Usually, we wait to find this out before we start slinging builds that might not even be available to any given builder.

Depending on where the OP is located, a 6700k build MIGHT be the best option or the ONLY option that falls within the constraints of his budget. And then again, it might not. He might also not be even remotely interested in an AMD build, as many builders are willing to pay extra to stick with what they know or prefer even if they don't have to. Regardless, I really dislike it when people just start throwing builds at the wall to see what sticks even after these kinds of questions have been asked to gain clarification. It just shows a lack of respect for other members on this forum and for the OP themselves. Anybody not willing to wait for details is simply looking for a BA, they are not actually trying to help.

 

[Darkbreeze]

MSI B450 - this motherboard has consistently received high reviews & is good value. It will also provide you with an opportunity to overclock the CPU to unlock more performance if that is something that you want in the future. The next generation of Ryzen CPUs will also work on this platform without any problems.

After seeing this, by itself, I don't even need to pick on the rest of your recommendations because MSI B450 isn't even a MODEL, it's a chipset, and it's not limited to MSI. This comment alone shows a serious lack of understanding what needs to be understood in order to make a qualified recommendation on ANYTHING. If you don't actually have the ability to make a knowledgeable recommendation on something it might be best to simply not offer an opinion on it.

 

[timn1991]

Hi guys, thanks a lot for your fast replies!

Are you in the US or another country?

The system he has outlined is using hardware which is about four years old and you can build a more capable system for less using a more current platform.

Is your heart set on Intel, because for what you want to do, a Ryzen system with a higher core count seems to be a lot more beneficial however even if you plan to stick with Intel I think we can do much better than a system that is three generations old.

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  ■I'm based in Germany.
  ■I think my buddy said he recommended me this setup, because he thinks the GTX 1080, even though it's an older model, is still among the best cards you can get for this money.
  ■No, I'm not limited to Intel, but I've always liked their products and never had an issue with their chips. The last time I bought an Intel it was a no-brainer, because AMD's product line hasn't had anything comparable to the Intel chips available back then. I've heard good things about the Ryzen processor though and if you think it's well or even better suited for my situation I'll take it.

Here is the list:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor ($267.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B450M-A/CSM Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($79.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($104.99 @ Newegg Business)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($65.75 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($498.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair - 270R ATX Mid Tower Case ($55.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($53.97 @ Newegg)
Total: $1187.56
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-14 04:42 EST-0500

You should be considering something like this.
32GB RAM is good to have but can be easily upgraded in future by adding second 16GB kit. Instead spend on components which are there to stay for over longer period of time and cannot be upgraded easily or in cost-effective manner.

Thanks for the list! I'll check it out. Your 32GB RAM argument does make sense. I'll probably go with 16GB first and then, if ever needed, will upgrade to 32GB later on.

I sure am glad nobody but me seems to think the OP might be someplace besides the US since the availability and price of parts might be much different wherever they are. Usually, we wait to find this out before we start slinging builds that might not even be available to any given builder.

Depending on where the OP is located, a 6700k build MIGHT be the best option or the ONLY option that falls within the constraints of his budget. And then again, it might not. He might also not be even remotely interested in an AMD build, as many builders are willing to pay extra to stick with what they know or prefer even if they don't have to. Regardless, I really dislike it when people just start throwing builds at the wall to see what sticks even after these kinds of questions have been asked to gain clarification. It just shows a lack of respect for other members on this forum and for the OP themselves. Anybody not willing to wait for details is simply looking for a BA, they are not actually trying to help.

Thank you, I appreciate your post. I'll gladly take part of the blame though, since I forgot to mention where I'm located and whether or not AMD is an option for me.

 

[Darkbreeze]

Ok, so let's start with what parts do you actually NEED and WANT to replace, and what parts do you already have (Including specific model numbers if possible) so that we can determine what if anything you really don't HAVE to replace or upgrade?

If you simply WANT to upgrade everything, that's fine, but I can assure you that you're probably unlikely to be able to do it for 800 bucks or what it roughly translates to at about 700 Euros or thereabouts.

I've looked already at a few things and I assure you that the 6700k is not the way to go, for anybody, unless you come across a really good deal on a used built or parts for that three generation old platform.

Also, the build you outlined has a GTX 1060 in it, but you just noted that it was a GTX 1080, so could you clarify which graphics card you are targeting and whether you intended that to be part of the 800 dollar budget or not?

Also, I'm rather glad to see you are NOT in the US, so I don't look like as much of an asshat as I would have if you HAD been. LOL.

 

[timn1991]

Ok, so let's start with what parts do you actually NEED and WANT to replace, and what parts do you already have (Including specific model numbers if possible) so that we can determine what if anything you really don't HAVE to replace or upgrade?

If you simply WANT to upgrade everything, that's fine, but I can assure you that you're probably unlikely to be able to do it for 800 bucks or what it roughly translates to at about 700 Euros or thereabouts.

I've looked already at a few things and I assure you that the 6700k is not the way to go, for anybody, unless you come across a really good deal on a used built or parts for that three generation old platform.

Also, the build you outlined has a GTX 1060 in it, but you just noted that it was a GTX 1080, so could you clarify which graphics card you are targeting and whether you intended that to be part of the 800 dollar budget or not?

Also, I'm rather glad to see you are NOT in the US, so I don't look like as much of an asshat as I would have if you HAD been. LOL.

Thanks mate, I actually do want to upgrade everything as I'm going to sell my old computer.

800 is just a rough figure. Like I said, if I can get much more value for more money then I'll choose that. I've only chosen the "800" to say that I'm not looking for a high-end gaming build, but for a smaller one with which I can occasionally play games. No 4K or anything fancy, just good ol' regular 1080p on a 24".

Regarding the GTX 1080, you're right, sorry for the confusion. I meant to say GTX 1060, not 1080. And yes, preferrably I'd like the graphics card to be included in the ~800 budget, but again, I have no problem with upping it a bit if necessary if I can get significantly more performance for a little more money.

I'm completely open for suggestions. If you think I should change my entire parts list from my original post based on my requirements, then I will.

 

[Darkbreeze]

Something like this, for your region, based on your needs and the parts which are most probably available to you, would be my recommendation. Every part is high quality but is not high quality ONLY for the sake of being so. There is a good reason for the selection of every component especially the power supply which is the least expensive quality unit available to you that I can see without dropping down to a much lower quality Corsair CX or Vengeance unit that will have a much shorter warranty.

The only thing in question is why you had 32GB of memory included, and unless your business applications include high end video production, CAD, 3D rendering or the use of multiple VMs, or some other aspect that honestly NEEDS to have 32GB, there is little reason to pay for memory you are unlikely to use before the demands of software extend to that degree because the next upgrade you do will likely incorporate DDR5 anyhow.

This Seasonic unit will have a 10 year full warranty.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor (€157.90 @ Alternate)
Motherboard: ASRock - Fatal1ty B450 GAMING K4 ATX AM4 Motherboard (€96.46 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (€140.89 @ Alternate)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€67.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€58.77 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Palit - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6 GB Dual Video Card (€253.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C TG ATX Mid Tower Case (€92.89 @ Alternate)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Platinum 550 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€85.90 @ Caseking)
Total: €954.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-15 20:03 CET+0100

 

[King Dranzer]

Here is the list:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor (€157.90 @ Alternate)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B450 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard (€100.84 @ Mindfactory)
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (€99.90 @ Caseking)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (€69.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€58.77 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1070 8 GB Dual Series Video Card (€349.00 @ Alternate)
Case: Corsair - 200R ATX Mid Tower Case (€54.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Platinum 550 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€85.90 @ Caseking)
Total: €977.11
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-16 08:56 CET+0100

 

[Darkbreeze]

Those Ballistix sticks are unlikely to run on that Ryzen system without a great deal of hair pulling, if at all. I don't know how many people I've seen try to get these sticks running on Ryzen systems and were unable to do so at anything higher than the default speed even using the Ryzen calculator.

They will certainly work, because I've SEEN those sticks run on a Ryzen system myself, but we, and many others, could not get them to run at anything above 2400mhz.

 

[timn1991]

Something like this, for your region, based on your needs and the parts which are most probably available to you, would be my recommendation. Every part is high quality but is not high quality ONLY for the sake of being so. There is a good reason for the selection of every component especially the power supply which is the least expensive quality unit available to you that I can see without dropping down to a much lower quality Corsair CX or Vengeance unit that will have a much shorter warranty.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor (€157.90 @ Alternate)
Motherboard: ASRock - Fatal1ty B450 GAMING K4 ATX AM4 Motherboard (€96.46 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (€140.89 @ Alternate)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€67.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€58.77 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Palit - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6 GB Dual Video Card (€253.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C TG ATX Mid Tower Case (€92.89 @ Alternate)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Platinum 550 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€85.90 @ Caseking)
Total: €954.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-15 20:03 CET+0100

Thank you, that build looks awesome.

Quick question: why'd you keep the GTX 1060? You said earlier that my initial build contained a lot of outdated hardware ("The system he has outlined is using hardware which is about four years old and you can build a more capable system for less using a more current platform.") or did that not include the GTX 1060? My heart isn't set on the GTX 1060, it's just the card my buddy recommended me and judging from a couple of benchmarks and comparisons I figured it'd still be a good card to get today. If you think I can do better and should choose a different card, again, I'm fully open to any suggestions.

The only thing in question is why you had 32GB of memory included, and unless your business applications include high end video production, CAD, 3D rendering or the use of multiple VMs, or some other aspect that honestly NEEDS to have 32GB, there is little reason to pay for memory you are unlikely to use before the demands of software extend to that degree because the next upgrade you do will likely incorporate DDR5 anyhow.

I most likely won't need 32GB of memory. Again, a recommendation by my buddy and it made sense to me at the time. He said that the memory he selected was on sale right now and if I opted for 32GB right away I wouldn't have to upgrade from 16 to 32 in the future.

But I'm actually with you on this. My work doesn't require 32GB right now and if I ever need to upgrade from 16 to 32 it will most likely already be DDR5.

 

[Darkbreeze]

The memory, yes. I agree. I outlined what could cause you to need 32GB and unless you are doing one of those things it's unlikely you'll need it. I run some pretty demanding applications and with only 16GB, for those applications or for gaming, I rarely use more than 10GB.

As for the graphics card, unless you are in need or desire to be able to run at resolutions higher than 1080p or require Ultra everything at 1080p while gaming, that card is still a good choice and is not four years old like the CPU and motherboard that were selected were.

Right now you can get a GTX 1070 for 300 bucks though, or a just released RTX 2060 for about 350.00, so if you think you might want a little more "ooomph" or muscle in that area, those might be good choices. If you want to go with a 1000 series card, GTX 1060, 1070, 1080, etc., you need to do it now as there are clear indications that within the next week or two most of the 1000 series cards will be gone from all the major vendors supply chains. No more are being made OR sent to retail vendors since a while now so what they have is what they have and after that it's either go with a newer architecture or go through smaller, usually more expensive retailers or private parties.

Obviously I'm basing that off US prices. Your prices are going to be somewhat different, but it's still worth looking into. You can get a Palit 2060 for around 350 Euros I believe.

 

[timn1991]

The memory, yes. I agree. I outlined what could cause you to need 32GB and unless you are doing one of those things it's unlikely you'll need it. I run some pretty demanding applications and with only 16GB, for those applications or for gaming, I rarely use more than 10GB.

As for the graphics card, unless you are in need or desire to be able to run at resolutions higher than 1080p or require Ultra everything at 1080p while gaming, that card is still a good choice and is not four years old like the CPU and motherboard that were selected were.

Right now you can get a GTX 1070 for 300 bucks though, or a just released RTX 2060 for about 350.00, so if you think you might want a little more "ooomph" or muscle in that area, those might be good choices. If you want to go with a 1000 series card, GTX 1060, 1070, 1080, etc., you need to do it now as there are clear indications that within the next week or two most of the 1000 series cards will be gone from all the major vendors supply chains. No more are being made OR sent to retail vendors since a while now so what they have is what they have and after that it's either go with a newer architecture or go through smaller, usually more expensive retailers or private parties.

Obviously I'm basing that off US prices. Your prices are going to be somewhat different, but it's still worth looking into. You can get a Palit 2060 for around 350 Euros I believe.

Thank you, I'll definitely get 16GB then.

The graphics card question is a bit tricky. I don't really need that extra oomph, which is why I'd like to opt for the cheaper one (GTX 1060). However, like I said I'm a value shopper and for only a little more money I can get the RTX 2060 which, according to the benchmarks, blows the GTX 1060 out of the water.

If you were in my position, would you rather wait for the 2060 or grab the 1060 while you still can?

Edit: I just checked and I could buy an ASUS GTX 1060 (6GB) or a ZOTAC GTX 1060 AMP! Edition for about 220€. Apparently they're on sale right now.

 

[timn1991]

Also, I don't know if this was unclear, but my heart wasn't set on NVIDIA at all. I like their cards, but if ATI has a better card for my needs in my price range, then I'll take that one without hesitation.

 

[Darkbreeze]

Right now there is no comparable AMD card I could conscionably recommend. The RX 580 or 590 would normally be a good card but I and others here have seen so many DOA or problematic RX 580 threads recently that I have to say to avoid it even though we can not find any widespread evidence that others are seeing this problem. I can however link to about 75 threads this month alone that are all related to faulty RX 580s.

It will not perform at the same level as the RTX 2060 though. AND, it might actually be worth waiting a bit because it looks like Nvidia is releasing a non-ray tracing version, slightly pared down, of the RTX 2060 called the GTX 1660 TI. It will probably land between the GTX 1060 and RTX 2060 but I don't know when or if you need one sooner.

https://www.techpowerup.com/251606/nvidia-readies-geforce-gtx-1660-ti-based-on-tu116-sans-rtx

 

[timn1991]

Right now there is no comparable AMD card I could conscionably recommend. The RX 580 or 590 would normally be a good card but I and others here have seen so many DOA or problematic RX 580 threads recently that I have to say to avoid it even though we can not find any widespread evidence that others are seeing this problem. I can however link to about 75 threads this month alone that are all related to faulty RX 580s.

It will not perform at the same level as the RTX 2060 though. AND, it might actually be worth waiting a bit because it looks like Nvidia is releasing a non-ray tracing version, slightly pared down, of the RTX 2060 called the GTX 1660 TI. It will probably land between the GTX 1060 and RTX 2060 but I don't know when or if you need one sooner.

https://www.techpowerup.com/251606/nvidia-readies-geforce-gtx-1660-ti-based-on-tu116-sans-rtx

Okay then, no AMD card.

Regarding the GTX 1660Ti and the GTX 1060 - I've read up on the 1660 a little bit and as of yet there seems to be no official announcement that this card is actually going to be released. Some sources even say it's just a rumor and that the card will most likely not be available, at least not for the quoted prices ($250 range) or with the specs.

This leaves me in a bit of a weird situation, because the GTX 1060, as I've mentioned before, is on sale right now for about 220€, which is a great price imo. Problem is, if the 1660 actually does get released and does end up in the $250 range, I'll regret having bought the GTX 1060, even if it was a great price.

But... if the 1660 will either be much more expensive than $250 or its specs be worse than speculated, I'll regret not having bought the GTX 1060.

I can't handle this pressure lol

 

[Darkbreeze]

I'd say three sources, including one of the board partners (Companies who make graphics cards based on the base architecture provided by Nvidia and AMD), is fairly convincing. Nvidia themselves have already talked about non-ray tracing versions of their cards as well, although they themselves have confirmed nothing yet.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1660-ti-specs,38457.html

Honestly, if you can get a GTX 1060, 6GB, not 3GB, for 200 euros, that isn't a single fan model, then it's probably a pretty good deal. Personally, for future proof against the probable increasing demands of games, I myself might want something a little more, er, stout. What works well at 1080p today might not next year, but much depends on what YOU require from the card. Certainly if you don't mind dropping a few settings here and there the 1060 is probably the best 1080p budget option. And if you only game infrequently, even more so.

 

[timn1991]

I'd say three sources, including one of the board partners (Companies who make graphics cards based on the base architecture provided by Nvidia and AMD), is fairly convincing. Nvidia themselves have already talked about non-ray tracing versions of their cards as well, although they themselves have confirmed nothing yet.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1660-ti-specs,38457.html

Honestly, if you can get a GTX 1060, 6GB, not 3GB, for 200 euros, that isn't a single fan model, then it's probably a pretty good deal. Personally, for future proof against the probable increasing demands of games, I myself might want something a little more, er, stout. What works well at 1080p today might not next year, but much depends on what YOU require from the card. Certainly if you don't mind dropping a few settings here and there the 1060 is probably the best 1080p budget option. And if you only game infrequently, even more so.

Yes, they're both dual fan versions with 6 GB. One is by ASUS and the other one by ZOTAC. Both at 220€. I think I even linked them 3 or 4 posts above this one.

I think I'll sleep on it and make a decision in the next few days. Let's say I do decide to wait for the 1660 Ti and buy it in a few months from now, all or at least most the parts from your list would still be the way to go, right?

 

[Darkbreeze]

IDK. That's sketchy. Prices change so much from week to week, and even day to day sometimes. I'd suggest buying what you like now, and then if necessary you can always use your current GPU card until you decide to pull the trigger on a newer model.

 

[timn1991]

IDK. That's sketchy. Prices change so much from week to week, and even day to day sometimes. I'd suggest buying what you like now, and then if necessary you can always use your current GPU card until you decide to pull the trigger on a newer model.

Makes sense. I think I'm going to pull the trigger.

Thanks to everyone who contributed and a HUGE thank you to you, darkbreeze. I really appreciate your help!

 

[Darkbreeze]

Of course. Anytime you have questions or want to roll an idea around, don't hesitate. And that doesn't just include me. Plenty of really good, knowledgeable members here both on the moderation team and among the community. Of course you have to take some advice with a grain of salt, but usually there is some good advice to be found and if you are ever in need of a specific opinion feel free to PM me with a link to the thread if it's a different one that this and I'm happy to offer my opinion for what it's worth.

 

[Darkbreeze]

https://www.hardocp.com/news/2019/01/23/nvidia_1660_ti_will_launch_on_february_15_at_279/

 

[timn1991]

https://www.hardocp.com/news/2019/01/23/nvidia_1660_ti_will_launch_on_february_15_at_279/

Thanks, mate! Your timing couldn't have been more perfect
I'll wait for the GTX 1660 models to be released over here and then get one of those.