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More info?)
Hi Sam
No change I'm afraid, any other ideas?
Paul.
>-----Original Message-----
>hi Paul -
>Well, you're asking some good questions, but I think
>that the answers, and the fix, will probably lie pretty
>much within the FS programs themselves. Do follow up
>on the comments of 'me @ comcast' though... he has done
>his homework and knows what he's talking about.
>
>Here are a couple of things to try.
>
>In FS2004 there is a file named FS9.CFG (don't recall
>the exact location and it's not on this machine). Find
>that file and delete (or rename it). When you start
>FS2004 the file will be rebuilt with new defaults which
>may change how things work for you. I don't know what
>the name of the equivalent file in FS2002 is, but me @
>comcast probably does and may want to fill that in.
>
>If you have another user account set up on your machine,
>you could try a fresh install there so tht you'd have
>pretty much of a "clean" shot at how things are
configured.
>
>Your computer meets MSFT's spec for FS2004 but actually
>is sorta on the edge of whether you will be satisfied
>with it. I had a similar machine and finally decided
>it was best to stick with FS2002. Other than some better
>graphics, FS2004 is not much different, and if you can't
>set the graphics up to a point where they look good, what
>is the point of trying to suffer through the low FPS?
>
>let us know what happens,
>s -------------------------------------------------------
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>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Hi Sam
>>
>>The specs are:
>>
>>Windows XP
>>1.6GHz Athlon processor
>>256Mb ram
>>32Mb SIS 470 Video Adapter (Driver up to date)
>>DX Ver9.0c
>>
>>I can see what your saying about FS2004 being more
>>demanding than 2002 with the new weather generation
etc,
>>but what is bothering me is that now I've reinstalled
>>FS2002 performance is lower than before. For example
>>taking the default frame rate lock:
>>
>>Original installation 30f/sec
>>2nd 20f/sec
>>3rd 15f/sec
>>
>>It's the same with default global texture settings
etc. ,
>>much lower.
>>
>>As I understand it during installation the software
>>examines your system to find out it's capabilities and
>>then sets default values for FS in the config file,
i.e.
>>the best all round for what your machine can do.
>>
>>So it looks like that each time I have re-installed
2002
>>the installation software in 2002 has seen degraded
>>performance in my system. It's the only thing that
makes
>>sense.
>>
>>I've done the DX tests and nothing wrong there. I've
>>emptied temp files, defragged, clean booted and so on,
>>still the same. Flight sims are the hungriest software
>>that I use so everything else on the machine seems to
be
>>fine.
>>
>>The only thing I can think of at the moment is this,
it's
>>a bit of a long shot but let me know what you think.
>>
>>I have three USB ports on my machine and when I first
got
>>broadband I used to treat the modem like a plug and
play
>>device and on one occasion it crashed the machine. When
I
>>restarted the OS had put an icon in the systray to
safely
>>remove the modem by switching it off first. So in
effect
>>XP responded to the situation to prevent further
>>problems, a protective adjustment made in the software
>>environment.
>>
>>Ok, a little while ago I put some scenery into 2002
which
>>was really demanding on the graphics card, it slowed
>>things down a lot and so after a while I took it off. I
>>just wonder if it's possible that XP has responded
>>protectively to prevent further over demand on the
>>graphics card. This would explain why after a reinstall
>>of 2002 performance levels are set much lower. Do you
>>know if XP can do this or am I just shooting into the
>>wind here?
>>
>>
>>Paul
>>
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>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>hi Paul -
>>>
>>>This is starting to make a lot more sense.
>>>First, it's important to know that FS2004 is far more
>>>demanding of computer resources than was FS2002. At
>>>this point I don't know what the basic specs of your
>>>machine are so you might tell me these five things in
>>>your reply.
>>>What OS are you using?
>>>What CPU are you using?
>>>How much memory do you have installed?
>>>What graphics card do you have?
>>>What version of Direct X do you have?
>>>For your comparison... I can run FS2002 on a 550mhz
>>>machine with 256mb of ram, and get about the same FPS
>>>as I do running FS2004 on a 2.4ghz / 1gb ram / Win XP
>>>machine.
>>>For now, boost your FPS target to about 24. The 15 FPS
>>>setting may be holding you down a little. Set AI
traffic
>>>to 0%.
>>>s -----------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>Hi Sam
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for replying. OK this is the story - I was
>>running
>>>>FS2002pro without any problems and the default
>>>>display/sound settings on installing it used to be:
>>>>
>>>>Global Scenery - high
>>>>Global Aircraft - medium
>>>>Hardware - Frame rate lock @ 30 & resolution @
>>1024x768x16
>>>>Sound - medium
>>>>
>>>>I was getting good performance even when autogen and
>>>>secenery complexity was at max unless over a big
city
>>>>and even then the slow down was minimal. I had no
>>>>complaints to the point that I have never even
bothered
>>>>looking at frame rates while flying before.
>>>>
>>>>After reinstalling for the first time it's like I'm
on
>>a
>>>>different machine, much older, slower etc. On a
second
>>>>attempt matters got even worse frame rate lock
dropped
>>>>further etc. The present position is as follows:
>>>>
>>>>Global Scenery - low
>>>>Global Aircraft -low
>>>>Hardware - Frame rate lock @ 15 & resolution @
>>800x600x32
>>>>Sound - low
>>>>
>>>>Performance is degraded for sure. It's been
progressive
>>>>over two installs so I thought maybe a virus is
eating
>>up
>>>>my software but nothing has shown up on two or three
>>full
>>>>scans. The only change to software is that I have
>>>>installed Realplayer but I took this off and it
didn't
>>>>help.
>>>>
>>>>What I don't get is that it's the same version of FS
on
>>>>the same machine (needless to say that FS2004 which
>>I've
>>>>just bought is a complete non starter until I'vs
worked
>>>>through this problem), ...Im at a bit of a loss here
so
>>>>any ideas would be appreciated
>>>>
>>>>Thanks Paul.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>FS2004 is just not working at
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>hi s.s. -
>>>>>Could you be a little more specific. What 'default'
>>>>settings
>>>>>are you referring to? What were they before... and
>>>>after?
>>>>>s ---------------------------------------------------
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>>--
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>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>On re-install default settings get lower and
>>lower????
>>>>>>I've trawled the support files but can't find a
>>>>>>solutionr. Drivers up to date, defragged, chkdsk,
>>>>Directx
>>>>>>up to date etc., etc.??? Does anyone have any
ideas?
>>>>>>.
>>>>>>
>>>>>.
>>>>>
>>>>.
>>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>.
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