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This will not fit on a CD (80min) to large, will fit on a
DVD, will the dvd be bootable if I try to install on a new system.
Or what is the best way to convert the iso to fit on a stsndard 80 min
cd. ?????


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On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 12:56:40 -0400, R.T wrote:

> This will not fit on a CD (80min) to large, will fit on a
> DVD, will the dvd be bootable if I try to install on a new system.
> Or what is the best way to convert the iso to fit on a stsndard 80 min
> cd. ?????
>
>
> tia

If you are going to pirate software, you should try learn about burning
onto bigger CD's 😉

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jafar left a note on my windscreen which said:

> > This will not fit on a CD (80min) to large, will fit on a
> > DVD, will the dvd be bootable if I try to install on a new system.
> > Or what is the best way to convert the iso to fit on a stsndard 80 min
> > cd. ?????
>
> If you are going to pirate software, you should try learn about burning
> onto bigger CD's 😉

Who said he's pirating software?
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On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 09:54:23 +0100, Stoneskin wrote:

> jafar left a note on my windscreen which said:
>
>> > This will not fit on a CD (80min) to large, will fit on a
>> > DVD, will the dvd be bootable if I try to install on a new system.
>> > Or what is the best way to convert the iso to fit on a stsndard 80 min
>> > cd. ?????
>>
>> If you are going to pirate software, you should try learn about burning
>> onto bigger CD's 😉
>
> Who said he's pirating software?

If it's not pirate software, tell me where you can buy Windows XP
legitimately as an .iso??
Do a Google for Windows XP 8 IN 1 and you will find that it seems to only
be available as a bittorrent or on warez sites, so you can plainly see
that it must be pirate 😉

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"Stoneskin" <no@thanks.com> wrote in message
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>
> Who said he's pirating software?

Where do you get 8 in 1 Windows? The last time I check, Microsoft do not
have Windows 8 in 1. If there is such a thing, please direct me to that
link.

The OP seem to be a newbie in pirating software and ask without using common
sense.

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On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 12:37:19 -0500, William wrote:

> Arrrr. Wheres me grog?

I saw Polly flying away with it capn' just as soon as the coxswain yelled
"Land Ho!". He took his crackers too! 😉

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jafar wrote:

> On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 09:54:23 +0100, Stoneskin wrote:
>
>> jafar left a note on my windscreen which said:
>>
>>> > This will not fit on a CD (80min) to large, will fit on a
>>> > DVD, will the dvd be bootable if I try to install on a new system.
>>> > Or what is the best way to convert the iso to fit on a stsndard 80 min
>>> > cd. ?????
>>>
>>> If you are going to pirate software, you should try learn about burning
>>> onto bigger CD's 😉
>>
>> Who said he's pirating software?
>
> If it's not pirate software, tell me where you can buy Windows XP
> legitimately as an .iso??
> Do a Google for Windows XP 8 IN 1 and you will find that it seems to only
> be available as a bittorrent or on warez sites, so you can plainly see
> that it must be pirate 😉

What in the H-E-double toothpicks is "Windows XP 8 In 1"?


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jafar left a note on my windscreen which said:

> >> > This will not fit on a CD (80min) to large, will fit on a
> >> > DVD, will the dvd be bootable if I try to install on a new system.
> >> > Or what is the best way to convert the iso to fit on a stsndard 80 min
> >> > cd. ?????
> >>
> >> If you are going to pirate software, you should try learn about burning
> >> onto bigger CD's 😉
> >
> > Who said he's pirating software?
>
> If it's not pirate software, tell me where you can buy Windows XP
> legitimately as an .iso??
> Do a Google for Windows XP 8 IN 1 and you will find that it seems to only
> be available as a bittorrent or on warez sites, so you can plainly see
> that it must be pirate 😉

I can easily make an 8 in 1 cd. Streamlined to include all current
updates. We do this here for ease of installing XP clients. If we
didn't we would have to download all the updates everytime we did a
fresh install.

The streamlined 8 in 1 cd is an iso which needs to be burnt onto a cd.
I would maintain that pirating software infers installing and using
software which does not have a legitimately bought license. The OP does
not prove this is the case.

I have had cause to download games from the internet on two occasions.
One was Thief 2 after I couldn't find the second disc to install the
game and the other was System Shock 2 after I ran my chair over the CD
(doh!). In both cases I had to recreate the discs from images and
neither case I count as piracy.
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J. Clarke left a note on my windscreen which said:

> > If it's not pirate software, tell me where you can buy Windows XP
> > legitimately as an .iso??
> > Do a Google for Windows XP 8 IN 1 and you will find that it seems to only
> > be available as a bittorrent or on warez sites, so you can plainly see
> > that it must be pirate 😉
>
> What in the H-E-double toothpicks is "Windows XP 8 In 1"?

It's a CD which contains 8 different versions of XP on a single CD
including current service packs and patches.

People use it for an easy single CD install if they use different
versions of XP or if they want to install to current 'patch-level'
without downloading and installing all the updates after installation.
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CapFusion left a note on my windscreen which said:

> > Who said he's pirating software?
>
> Where do you get 8 in 1 Windows? The last time I check, Microsoft do not
> have Windows 8 in 1. If there is such a thing, please direct me to that
> link.
>
> The OP seem to be a newbie in pirating software and ask without using common
> sense.

Piracy infers using software without a legitimatly bought license.
Creating iso images or even downloading iso images doesn't affect what
software licenses you have bought or are entitled to use.

Example - the OP may have bought his PC with Win XP Home pre-installed.
If he has lost, damaged or even not been provided with the installation
discs I see nothing wrong with making your own iso of the media and
installing it within your original license rights.

Just ut of curiosity - if it was you in this situation above, what would
you, honestly, do?

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On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 09:49:25 +0100, Stoneskin wrote:

> The streamlined 8 in 1 cd is an iso which needs to be burnt onto a cd.
> I would maintain that pirating software infers installing and using
> software which does not have a legitimately bought license. The OP does
> not prove this is the case.

If making your own 8in1 CD is covered in the legalese of the MS licence
then it is ok I suppose. That is if you actually have the licence in the
first place 😉

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"Stoneskin" <no@thanks.com> wrote in message
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>
> Piracy infers using software without a legitimatly bought license.
> Creating iso images or even downloading iso images doesn't affect what
> software licenses you have bought or are entitled to use.
>
> Example - the OP may have bought his PC with Win XP Home pre-installed.
> If he has lost, damaged or even not been provided with the installation
> discs I see nothing wrong with making your own iso of the media and
> installing it within your original license rights.
>
> Just ut of curiosity - if it was you in this situation above, what would
> you, honestly, do?
>

If it were in my situation, I will be discrete about it.

** OP Original post **
This will not fit on a CD (80min) to large, will fit on a
DVD, will the dvd be bootable if I try to install on a new system.
Or what is the best way to convert the iso to fit on a stsndard 80 min
cd. ?????
** /OP Original post **
From my understand of his post, this ISO do not seem to belong to him or
know what to do with ISO. If this ISO belong to him but someone have help
him made it, he should be asking that person "HowTo". But AGAIN, if that
image truly his but his friend went south / split and still have the CD key
and other info. for that XP, he still can get another copy from Microsoft to
get replacement. If he have proof that the XP is belong to him but do not
call in or get that friend to make a smaller image / unable to reach him or
simply unable to get that original CD back, then he simply throw it away.

And and AGAIN. If he or his friend made that image and it too big, he / they
can create another image but this time smaller to fit in 80min.

Making ISO image or any type of image / backup copy is not problem.

CapFusion,...
 
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CapFusion left a note on my windscreen which said:

> From my understand of his post, this ISO do not seem to belong to him or
> know what to do with ISO. If this ISO belong to him but someone have help
> him made it, he should be asking that person "HowTo". But AGAIN, if that
> image truly his but his friend went south / split and still have the CD key
> and other info. for that XP, he still can get another copy from Microsoft to
> get replacement. If he have proof that the XP is belong to him but do not

Indeed, you could get another copy from Microsoft. But if it were me I
wouldn't see anything wrong with downloading the image and using my
existing license to install it under.

> call in or get that friend to make a smaller image / unable to reach him or
> simply unable to get that original CD back, then he simply throw it away.
>
> And and AGAIN. If he or his friend made that image and it too big, he / they
> can create another image but this time smaller to fit in 80min.
>
> Making ISO image or any type of image / backup copy is not problem.

Another point to consider is that if the OP has bought his PC in the
last few years there is a very good chance he already does own a license
to use XP.

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"Stoneskin" <no@thanks.com> wrote in message
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>>
> Indeed, you could get another copy from Microsoft. But if it were me I
> wouldn't see anything wrong with downloading the image and using my
> existing license to install it under.
>

I did not say OP can not make copy or get image or similar. OP did not
indicate anyting about license but how to get the image to the disc. OP can
get a bootleg image from China if that matter and *I / ME* would still think
it this ok just at long there proof or license available. But this subject
is not about license and BUT again, this subject about HowTo get image to
the CD.


>
> Another point to consider is that if the OP has bought his PC in the
> last few years there is a very good chance he already does own a license
> to use XP.
>

You are getting off-topic here.

CapFusion,...
 
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On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 09:21:35 +0100, Stoneskin wrote:

> Indeed, you could get another copy from Microsoft. But if it were me I
> wouldn't see anything wrong with downloading the image and using my
> existing license to install it under.

The point is not whether you consider it to be ok to do it. It matters
whether Microsoft's lawyers consider it to be alright. Have a look at the
licence if you have a copy handy and see what it says if you understand
the gibberish.

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jafar left a note on my windscreen which said:

> > Indeed, you could get another copy from Microsoft. But if it were me I
> > wouldn't see anything wrong with downloading the image and using my
> > existing license to install it under.
>
> The point is not whether you consider it to be ok to do it. It matters
> whether Microsoft's lawyers consider it to be alright. Have a look at the
> licence if you have a copy handy and see what it says if you understand
> the gibberish.

To be a little bit more picky over it - it would be what copyright
infringement you broke according to the laws governing wherever it was
you commited the 'crime'.

AFAIK software licenses cannot contradict the law. Example, I belive in
the UK you are allowed to make 1 backup copy of the software for
reasonable use. Even if an MS license prohibited you from doing such in
the UK it would still be legal to do so and not a copyright
infringement.
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On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 14:14:54 +0100, Stoneskin wrote:

> AFAIK software licenses cannot contradict the law. Example, I belive in
> the UK you are allowed to make 1 backup copy of the software for
> reasonable use. Even if an MS license prohibited you from doing such in
> the UK it would still be legal to do so and not a copyright
> infringement.

True, as long as only one of the copies is in use at one time.

Still, I wonder why the original poster hasn't returned to discuss the
matter? Scared him off did we? 😉

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"jafar" <jafar@fatcat.delicats.net> wrote in message
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>
> True, as long as only one of the copies is in use at one time.
>
> Still, I wonder why the original poster hasn't returned to discuss the
> matter? Scared him off did we? 😉
>

My guess is.... Troll.
This is the wrong NG to talk about Windows or about copy.

CapFusion,...
 
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CapFusion left a note on my windscreen which said:

> > Indeed, you could get another copy from Microsoft. But if it were me I
> > wouldn't see anything wrong with downloading the image and using my
> > existing license to install it under.
>
> I did not say OP can not make copy or get image or similar. OP did not
> indicate anyting about license but how to get the image to the disc. OP can
> get a bootleg image from China if that matter and *I / ME* would still think
> it this ok just at long there proof or license available. But this subject
> is not about license and BUT again, this subject about HowTo get image to
> the CD.

The suject I originally responded to was, indeedm about licenses. My
first response in this thread was in reply to the statement made about
the OP being a pirate. My point is that, as you pointed out, the OP
made no point about a license - just the copy. So the post about him
being a pirate was unjustified.

> > Another point to consider is that if the OP has bought his PC in the
> > last few years there is a very good chance he already does own a license
> > to use XP.
>
> You are getting off-topic here.

Probably. But this is USENET. It's on par for the course 😉
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On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 13:25:44 -0700, CapFusion wrote:

> My guess is.... Troll.
> This is the wrong NG to talk about Windows or about copy.
>
> CapFusion,...

Good point. We are well OT here now 😉 Cased closed.

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