Real life joystick in aircraft

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Dallas wrote:

> "Marcel Kuijper"
>
>>I tried it a while back, flying an Airbus lefthanded with a regular
>>Sidewinder joystick
>
>
> Yeah, I'm going to plug in the joystick and try to land a jet with my left
> hand... I hope all the passengers have their life insurance paid up. 🙂
>
>
> Dallas
>
>

In the quicksilver sport ultralight trainer there is a center mounted
stick and dual throttle controls which, for the left seater, is located
on the left side low beside the left seat for the left seat and for the
right seat the second throttle is on the right side of the right seat.


I flew with my hand very close to the throttle it was easy to learn to
fly with left hand on the stick.

In a UH-1 or an OH58 you just grip the cyclic between your knees when
writing clearances or info from the tactical situation. If you need to
turn when writing you learn to turn with your knees.

http://www.ultralightnews.com/airventure99/quicksilver_strutbraced.htm

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boB

U.S. Army Aviation (retired)
Central Texas - 5NM West of Gray Army Airfield (KGRK)
 
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"boB" <akitaREMOVECAPS77@excite.Icom> wrote in message
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>
> In a UH-1 or an OH58 you just grip the cyclic between your knees when
> writing clearances or info from the tactical situation. If you need to
> turn when writing you learn to turn with your knees.
>
> http://www.ultralightnews.com/airventure99/quicksilver_strutbraced.htm
>
> --
>
> boB
>
> U.S. Army Aviation (retired)
> Central Texas - 5NM West of Gray Army Airfield (KGRK)

Hi boB,

Unless of course you happen to be lucky enough to be left handed--in which
case, you just have to use some knee pressure against the collective to hold
it in place, and write with your left hand. Worked great for me. 🙂)

Paul
 
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Paul Riley wrote:

> Hi boB,
>
> Unless of course you happen to be lucky enough to be left handed--in which
> case, you just have to use some knee pressure against the collective to hold
> it in place, and write with your left hand. Worked great for me. 🙂)
>
> Paul
>
>

Yes, I can see that. But what did you do in the front seat of a Cobra?
I would think that being left handed would be difficult. Right now I'm
using that O&O Defrag util but later I'll load the AH-1 and try flying
front seat with the stick on my left.
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boB

U.S. Army Aviation (retired)
Central Texas - 5NM West of Gray Army Airfield (KGRK)
 
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"boB" <akitaREMOVECAPS77@excite.Icom> wrote in message
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>>
>
> Yes, I can see that. But what did you do in the front seat of a Cobra? I
> would think that being left handed would be difficult. Right now I'm
> using that O&O Defrag util but later I'll load the AH-1 and try flying
> front seat with the stick on my left.
> --
>
> boB
>
> U.S. Army Aviation (retired)
> Central Texas - 5NM West of Gray Army Airfield (KGRK)

Well, with two guys in the bird, one was always available to write while the
other flew. Unless of course we got into a shooting match with some
unfriendly folks, in which case, we just forgot about any writing--couldn't
be of much importance at that time anyway. 🙂)

Last time I flew a Cobra I *think* was in 1974 here in the States and only
for a short flight. It was front seat, that I do remember. Last real flight
was in the Fall of 1968 in Vietnam. That was 36+ years ago, and my 70 year
old mind is not real clear on the front seat arrangements. I believe though
the cyclic was on the right, collective the left. I do remember it never
gave me any problem. I just flew it. Being left handed--no problem. But
then, even as a kid, I threw left, batted right!! 🙂)

Regards,
Paul
 
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Paul Riley wrote:


>
> Last time I flew a Cobra I *think* was in 1974 here in the States and only
> for a short flight. It was front seat, that I do remember. Last real flight
> was in the Fall of 1968 in Vietnam. That was 36+ years ago, and my 70 year
> old mind is not real clear on the front seat arrangements. I believe though
> the cyclic was on the right, collective the left. I do remember it never
> gave me any problem. I just flew it. Being left handed--no problem. But
> then, even as a kid, I threw left, batted right!! 🙂)
>
> Regards,
> Paul
>
>

You flew the G model which had a flex gunsight instead of the TSU but
the flight controls were the same. This is finally OT cause I'm showing
the pictures of a Cobra front seat in the FS9 AH-1S.

http://img123.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img123&image=cobrafrontseat2cp.jpg

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boB

U.S. Army Aviation (retired)
Central Texas - 5NM West of Gray Army Airfield (KGRK)
 
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"Bill Leaming"
> Then fly "English style!" Fly from the right seat! 😉

....And fly on the wrong side of the sky. 🙂


Dallas
 
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Hi Bob;

I downloaded that oo defrag tonight and ran it. My XP default defrag
hasn't told me to defrag in several months. I had no way of knowing if
it was working or not 🙂
Pete said to use the name option which I did by right clicking on the c
drive. I'm now showing a 0% fragmentation and the sim seems to be
running fine.
Dudley
"boB" <akitaREMOVECAPS77@excite.Icom> wrote in message
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> Paul Riley wrote:
>
>> Hi boB,
>>
>> Unless of course you happen to be lucky enough to be left handed--in
>> which case, you just have to use some knee pressure against the
>> collective to hold it in place, and write with your left hand. Worked
>> great for me. 🙂)
>>
>> Paul
>
> Yes, I can see that. But what did you do in the front seat of a
> Cobra? I would think that being left handed would be difficult. Right
> now I'm using that O&O Defrag util but later I'll load the AH-1 and
> try flying front seat with the stick on my left.
> --
>
> boB
>
> U.S. Army Aviation (retired)
> Central Texas - 5NM West of Gray Army Airfield (KGRK)
 
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Dudley Henriques wrote:

> Hi Bob;
>
> I downloaded that oo defrag tonight and ran it. My XP default defrag
> hasn't told me to defrag in several months. I had no way of knowing if
> it was working or not 🙂
> Pete said to use the name option which I did by right clicking on the c
> drive. I'm now showing a 0% fragmentation and the sim seems to be
> running fine.
> Dudley


Thanks Dudley. The OO util is still plugging away. At least it's on
the second 250G drive now. I like the way I can use the computer while
the defrag is ... .hmmmn ahh defragging


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boB

U.S. Army Aviation (retired)
Central Texas - 5NM West of Gray Army Airfield (KGRK)
 
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Chris Harries wrote:
> what you are you on about..the pilot sits in the left hand seat...and
> yes I am English and have flown a real place.

Some of us English chaps can also be seen flying the occasional cod or
haddock around as well 🙂

Quilljar
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"Quilljar"
> Some of us English chaps can also be seen flying the occasional cod or
> haddock around as well 🙂

Look!... there goes one now!



Dallas
 
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On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 08:38:16 +0100, Stephen F. wrote:

> Ah, but all the stiff upper lip types have just lost their beloved fox hunt.
> Next you'll lose the tweed cap, all MGBs will be impounded, and fish & chips
> will be banned for health reasons. 🙂

If fish and chips is banned, what will they do with all those newspapers?
🙂)

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Marcel
(...flying through an asteroid field ain't like dusting crops, boy!)
 
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 04:57:03 GMT, Dallas wrote:

> "Bill Leaming"
>> Then fly "English style!" Fly from the right seat! 😉
>
> ...And fly on the wrong side of the sky. 🙂

ROTFL!!!!

Then London Center ATC comes on:
"I say old boy...you're flying rather inconvient at this time. Would you
mind terribley moving your aeroplane 1000 yards to the left or right of the
approaching aircraft? A collision would cause such a mess down here.
Pip pip and cherrio..."

🙂

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Marcel
(If you want to grow old as a pilot, you've got to know when to
push it, and when to back off. - Chuck Yeager)
 
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On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 20:55:47 +0100, Oskar Wagner wrote:

> "Marcel Kuijper" wrote:
>> Ofcourse the overal "feel" of a real Airbus stick must be way different
>> than a regular pc joystick, right? Not as "loose"?
>
> Definitely!! ;-) Exquisite damping (hydraulic) and centering with absolutely
> NO excessice play around null position and ... and .....
> Well it's a piece of mechanical artwork but definitely not as cheap as a
> joystick... ;-)

Just once I'd like to get a feel of the real thing, no matter how space-
aged I think it looks. It's been so long since I've been in the cockpit of
a real airliner I'm beginning to think the PMDG737 *is* real. 🙂
Besides....I never been in an Airbus cockpit before. (pathetic, eh?)


> BTW we were not allowed (for obvious reasons) to call it "joystick" as it
> might have irritated our female flight crew members (no joke....). The
> official wording was "sidestick"......

No women take the fun out of flying??! (sorry Katy!)
They nag at you when you're driving, nag at you when you go shopping with
them, nag at you when you're a little late for dinner, nag at you when you
spend a few hours flying on the pc on a rainy day and now they dare to
invade the most sacred part of a man's life: the cockpit!

Why do you think they call it the 'cockpit'? <g>

(Oh boy...that's such a bad joke!!)

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Marcel
(If you want to grow old as a pilot, you've got to know when to
push it, and when to back off. - Chuck Yeager)
 
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"Marcel Kuijper"
> Why do you think they call it the 'cockpit'? <g>

Hum..... actually... Why do they call it the cockpit?



Dallas
 
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Also Sprach Dallas <Cybnorm@spam_me_not.hotmail.com>:

> "Marcel Kuijper"
>> Why do you think they call it the 'cockpit'? <g>

> Hum..... actually... Why do they call it the cockpit?

Because it's the perfect place for two chickens to fight each other when
they can't find the airport in a thunderstorm. :)

Dan

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