Really Low Min Framerate, but really High Average!?

[rHy0]

Or you could oc your cpu a little.

Im too scared! 😳 Too much problems already.

 

[sdrawkcaBgoD]

I feel that FEAR is close primarily due to the fact that it's a first-person shooter. Graphically it's not as awe-inspiring as Oblivion, but you have to figure how hard it is for a FPS to look that good and not stutter like Ken from 'A Fish Called Wanda."

 

[samir_nayanajaad]

I feel that FEAR is close primarily due to the fact that it's a first-person shooter. Graphically it's not as awe-inspiring as Oblivion, but you have to figure how hard it is for a FPS to look that good and not stutter like Ken from 'A Fish Called Wanda."

I think Oblivion looks beautiful and so does FEAR but I think you need to use both to test a system not just one uber game to end all. Oblivion loads massive areas with gobs of info to flood the video card, cpu and ram. That is good just because of the volume of info being processed is so great. FEAR on the other hand needs gobs of info to flow through and have high fps. That is good because the amount of info is large and is changing rapidly.

Both run the pc into the ground just in different ways, and lucky me I have both games so my pc is on the ground quite a lot.

 

[samir_nayanajaad]

one more question, did you notice the low fps while playing then decide to test or did you just want to see what you pc could do then once you saw the numbers get all worked up because its not as good as you thought?

 

[rHy0]

The reason im getting worked up is cause i decided to test using the fear benchmark one day and i had noticed that my Min Fps had just gotten worse than the results i had from it a week back. And like i said before, even when i tried setting absolutely everything on lowest settings the min only went up to about 42fps (from 34 on max detail)! while the Avg and Max fps flew up!

 

[samir_nayanajaad]

Ok sorry I had forgotten you lowered settings before. It would help if I would remember stuff like that

You said you did a clean install, was this windows or just FEAR? If it was windows and all you just might have a hardware prob, but if not you might have gotten a virus or spyware? Check for those if you haven’t all ready.

Heck I always have my data backed up in 2 places so a format and reinstall of xp pro is a quick weekend job I don’t even know why I mess with av at all bc if I get a virus by the weekend its sure as hell gone with a reinstall of xp

Have you checked your system memory with memtest 86? Maybe one stick went south for summer and now you’re running with only a gig stick (I assumed you got 2 1gb sticks not a 2gb stick)

Maybe this will be some help unlike my last few posts again sorry for wasting your time with those

 

[rHy0]

You said you did a clean install, was this windows or just FEAR?

Well both, first reinstalled FEAR, then did a clean install. I dont know if this would be the cause of the problem but i never install the latest patches for FEAR cause i cant as they never work for me, think that could be the problem?

Have you checked your system memory with memtest 86?

No, i cant get the dam think working 😳 i downloaded it then tried to copy it onto a disk but it didnt work... And yes i have 2 1gb sticks. Thanks for your patience so far by the way, really preciate you help.

 

[EllisD420]

Though you only got a few FPS higher with the detail lower in the game test, is the difference more prominent during in-game play? Just be sure that you do good testing before ruling that something dosnt work, not just that timedemo test.

 

[samir_nayanajaad]

yeah I would dl the updates before dropping a few bills on a cpu. If your worried bout the updates and not useing a cd, by now there should be a no cd crack that works.

I never like using my cd because taking them in and out scratches them and some games the game runs faser with out the cd, (thought that wasnt a prob anymore?) But most the time I just image the game disk and mount it to avoid f-ing up my $50.00 game disk. I need to learn to handle disks better, but Im lazy, throw them hear, there, $50.00 coaster on the coffee table over in the living room, yeah not good.

as for memtest not working I dont know, but maybe you could bring up the task manager to see if you got 2gb, it may still be bad even if it shows up as 2gb but if you get 1gb showing you know thats a prob.

 

[rHy0]

Em well i did try setting Volumetric Lights down to Medium and i now get 37fps min which is making gameplay a bit more decent, but i mean i dont see how a 3fps increase could do that so i see what you mean. Hmm....

 

[waylander]

Did you use the memtest86 from www.memtest86.com? If so that is an ISO and must be written to a CD correctly. If you want to use a 3.5 floppy then just download it from like fileplanet or download.com.

 

[rHy0]

Ive also had a big and constant increase in temperature for the last 3 days on my non OC'd system!. Using nvidia monitor my GPU idles at 46C!, MB/System 34C and CPU at 31. They used to be amazing temps; 40, 28 and 27 :? Ive actually started leaving my case open for 10mins after playing cause my system wont cool completely down to idle temps on its own!! I have a dam Thermaltake Armor for crying out loud! How is this big and sudden rise possible?

 

[waylander]

Is your room ambient temperature getting higher as summer comes?

 

[rHy0]

Well yeah, a bit i guess but can that really increase temps so much??

 

[samir_nayanajaad]

I would get that memtest going, temp thing is weird.

oh yeah fyi my bro had a temp issue when he first built his rig, and it turned out to be the mobo was messed up but not so bad that the pc wouldnt work, just over heat the cpu like hell for some odd reason. just something more for you to chew on. maybe if a friend has a simmiler set up you could swap parts and test

 

[rHy0]

Yeah ill try get memtest going again, i dont think it could be the same problem cause my CPU temps are alright (30C at moment) but its my graphics card temps that have shot up to 45/46C idle from 40Cidle 🙁 , rises to 70C max at full load. Used to be 69max at load... But i really just hope it is just my room temperature thats causing the rise...

 

[EllisD420]

I would definetly say that if the temp outside increases, and your room temp is rising with it (IE you dont have a fan blowing or AC on or anything) then the PC temps will rise for sure. I was idle @ 30C and load @ 45C last month. Now that the weather is getting sunny, its hotter during the day and now im idle @ 32C and load @ 47.5C. Nothing else was changed during that month time to increase temps...if anything, they should be better because the AS5 should have cured more. Keep in mind that this is only the beginning of summer, as it goes on...it will just get hotter and hotter. Thats why if you overclock in the winter, you might have to scale down or get better cooling for the summer months or you will most likely suffer from overheating.

 

[waylander]

I'm not really suggesting that the room temperature should make that much difference but it will have some impact as it gets warmer.

 

[nannerla]

ok um well the stupid computer guy my mom took the computer i built to install windows xp used pirate windows and i cant get the .net framework so can i like force triplebufering in d3d any other way.

 

[HideOut]

still using onboard sound...

 

[PX7800GT]

OK , rHy0 ... I 100% Sure That Your Minimum Frame Rate Is Right For Your Graphic Card ... & The Reason That Waylander Got The 45 Frame For Minimum Is That His 7800GTX is OverClocked !!
Listen ... Go See Some Benchmarks ... 7800GTX@ Stock Speed Cant Get More Than 33~38 Frame For Minimum ... As You Can See I Have A 7800GT & I OverClock It A Little (My 3DMark 2005 Score Is 7600) ... My Minimum Frame Rate In Fear Is 34 & It Dropped To Even 20 In Some Parts Of The Game ... So I Reduced The Resolution To 800x600 ( Everything Else Max ,4xAA) & Then I Got Some Good Frame Rates ,But Still Minimum Frame Rate Was Under 40 Frame !! , Try To OverClock You GPU By 25 or 50 MHz & Then Test Again ... F.E.A.R. Is an ATI Game , I Don`t Like To Say That But As You Can See Here An X1800XL Can Kill You Graphic Card in F.E.A.R. ...
I Say Max All Settings , No Soft Shadows , 4xAA ,16xAF , But 800x600 & You Will Enjoy The Game Much More ... I Finished The Game on These Setting !! & One More Thing Is Don`t Waste Your Money on Buying A New CPU , Your CPU is More Than Fine !! :twisted:

 

[rHy0]

Okay i here yah. But just to be clear, my 7800GTX is Factory OC'd (475Mhz). Anyway while your about i have a more serious problem to mention. Just last night when i took my comp out of standby the screen wouldnt display anything and the computer crashed! Then when i tried resuming out of standby again later on, i got an error message this time saying 'Unknown Hard Error' and then when i tried clicking my mouse it crashed again. So i just restarted went into windows and found some error reports in event log. Here they are; 'The Device HardDisk, has a bad block'. I got two of those and one 'System Error' report that was pretty much just numbers. I ran WD Diagnostics and my harddrive failed the test for the first time ever! and offered to repair the block so it did so. I still cant come out of standby though cause it still crashes or stops responding with the error message! Do you think my harddrive is failing??
If it is then im not gonna bother getting a free replacement as it will take over a month like my replaced graphics card!! so ill just have to buy a new dam Raptor!!

 

[PX7800GT]

Before Changing Hard Drive , I Suggest To Format All Of Your Drives , & Install A Fresh Windows XP With Service Pack 2 ... This May Help ...

 

[rHy0]

Okay but i just re-installed XP yesterday... Really i just want to know if you think my Hard drive is broken and if i should replace.

 

[PX7800GT]

Maybe ... I`m Not Sure ... If You Can Test A New Hard Drive On Your PC ...