Reboot and select proper Boot Device - IF HELP!

yosindrax

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Hello guys.
I went into this problem recently this morning all randomly and I tried to fix it by following:

1. phase:
- First problem was a I/O-error (it was my HDD on RAID1: Error occurred(0)) Also known as secondary HDD
RAID0 status: Master Disk(0) -> primary HDD works fine I got into the computer last day with it.
RAID0(stripe): status = normal / bootable = yes

2. phase:
I resetted HDD RAID1 to: Non-RAID
Resulted in -> RAID0(stripe): status: failure / bootable = no

When trying to boot this came up now:
"Reboot and select proper boot device or insert boot media in selected boot device and press a key"

3. phase:
I deleted my whole RAID volume and created a new.
RAID0(Stripe) status: normal / bootable = yes
HD RAID0 = Member disk(0)
HD RAID1 = Member disk(1)

When trying to boot this still came up now:
"Reboot and select proper boot device or insert boot media in selected boot device and press a key"

4. phase(last thing I've tried):
- Tried boot BIOS with every single device as 1st priority
- Tried SATA on RAID, AHCI and IDE
- Tried without secondary HDD in computer(the one who occuried error in phase 1)
- Reset CMOS battery out two times for 5 mins and 30 mins

This is the ERROR i get right now after what I've tried:
Only 1 HDD in computer = Member Disk(0)
RAID0(stripe) -> status: failure / bootable = no
and... "Reboot and select proper boot device or insert boot media in selected boot device and press a key"



Boot option priority:
1. WDC WD7500BPKT ( is the name on my HDD)
2. P2: TSSTcorp DVDWBD TS-LB23A
3. Disabled (can choose: Realtek PXE B02 D00)

SATA = RAID

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Computer information:
- MSI GT780R
- Windows 7
Serial ATA/HDD: WDC WD7500BPKT (750gb)
Serial ATA HDD2: WDC WD7500BPKT (750gb)
Serial ATA/DVD: TSSTciro DVDwB ATAPI
Serial(the last): Empty


Any suggestions would be a BIG help!
- Yosindrax
 
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lets start with image 2
https://imageshack.com/i/nds44w0j

this gives us the problem that the 2nd drive was part of your striped array, and therefore part of your boot and operating system partitions

this leads us onto images 1 and 5
https://imageshack.com/i/ndvxct8j
a failed raid array means no boot drive and no boot option for it

https://imageshack.com/i/nrbx75j
this leads onto a boot error as your bios is no longer pointing to a valid boot partition

Good news - the data is still on your hard drives until it's overwritten.
Bad news - you did have a true RAID 0 setup and you removed one of the drives from it. Further to that you redefined the 1st drive's raid setup. The meta data relating to the original raid setup on both drives...

pauls3743

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What is RAID1? Is it the name or the type of the RAID setup?

RAID0(stripe) - if you have problems with any of the drives in this setup you can kiss your whole system goodbye. Data striping works by splitting the data across multiple hard drives to increase performance. However, it has the drawback that there is no redundancy for the data, should any of the drives in the array fail the whole array is lost because the failed drive held the data needed to make the rest work.

Simply put, I think one of the drives in your striped array has failed, you no longer have a boot partition or an OS partition and your computer is now giving you those error messages because it cannot find the boot partition.

Your options:-
1). Send away the hard drives to attempt data recovery, this can cost mega bucks
2). Disable RAID, switch your system back to AHCI and re-install your OS onto a single hard drive

Notes: I have a few raid systems running either RAID 1 (mirrored) or raid 5 (striping with data parity). I don't have RAID 0 (striping) purely because I have tried it a few times in the past and found it unstable at best.
If you really want a performance boost in your system I would recommend going for a SSD for your Operating System and main programs, everything else can be installed onto one of your storage drives.
 

yosindrax

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Sorry if confusing a little im trying to understand it first time im touching this kind of thing in a computer:
I didnt mean raid1 with the secondary HDD I meant port 1.

RAID0(stripe) worked just fine until I non-raided secondary HDD and now removed secondary HDD completly from the computer otherwise the status is: normal.

But I got into the computer in phase 1 in my description when RAID0(stripe) stautus = normal
port 0 -> primary HDD status: Normal
Port 1 .> Secondary HDD status: error occurred

Your suggestion would be to reinstall my whole OS and make it to AHCI - so my computer only with run through primary HDD and secondary has been taken out of computer?

- Thanks for your help
 

pauls3743

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Ah, 2 hard drives. The 1st was setup as RAID 0 (which technically it wasn't as RAID is multiple drives). The 2nd drive was added later down the line but wasn't integrated into your primary RAID setup and more recently it as removed from the system.

I would suggest looking at the boot order in your bios as well as in your raid controller setup to make sure your boot order hasn't changed and put something stupid at he top.
 

pauls3743

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lets start with image 2
https://imageshack.com/i/nds44w0j

this gives us the problem that the 2nd drive was part of your striped array, and therefore part of your boot and operating system partitions

this leads us onto images 1 and 5
https://imageshack.com/i/ndvxct8j
a failed raid array means no boot drive and no boot option for it

https://imageshack.com/i/nrbx75j
this leads onto a boot error as your bios is no longer pointing to a valid boot partition

Good news - the data is still on your hard drives until it's overwritten.
Bad news - you did have a true RAID 0 setup and you removed one of the drives from it. Further to that you redefined the 1st drive's raid setup. The meta data relating to the original raid setup on both drives has been destroyed. This severely complicates matters as it now puts us into either a recovery OR clean install.

Recovery is not a nice thing to do with single hard drives, it's worse with raid arrays. The basic requirements for attempting recovery on your system are
1). Additional hard drives for an operating system and data recovery
2). Recovery software
3). Your raid array to be recreated with it's original settings but with a quick initialization so no data is overwritten.

My recommendation - if you can afford to lose the data you have then switch your system to AHCI. Boot from the Windows install disc and do a clean install. Once you've done this go back into your bios and set the boot order so your hard drive is at the top.
 
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yosindrax

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Thanks for your time and help Pauls, I really appreciate it!
U've helped me alot to understand everything in this bad situation - very useful!

- Yosindrax, take care!
 

yosindrax

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Pauls what would u say to this suggestion:
Insert my HDD in another computer handover my data since there something very useful data on that HDD that makes my laptop read my grafic card when starting up/booting. -> and then afterwards but it back in mine, switch my system to AHCI, boot from the windows install disc and do a clean install like u recommended.
 

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As best as I can I'll try and explain why this won't work.

In a RAID 0 array (striped) the data is split between all the members of the raid array, in your case it's only 2 drives. The stripe size sets the spacing of the split of the data. It can be anything from 16KB up to 1024KB. I think the stripe size is per drive. The point being, the raid controller alternates reads/writes between drives at this set rate. Complete files can be written to a single drive if the are small enough to fit within the stripe size, bigger files have their data split between the hard drives. The same goes for the file system indices themselves, they're split between the drives.

The problem with what you are proposing is that by taking a hard drive out of that raid environment you lose the control of the raid controller that sets that file spacing meaning all you really get is a string of rubbish which only the best of us can make head or tail about. It also has the problem it is missing 50% of the data because it is literally on the other drive.


As to your useful data, is this a program you have downloaded or something you have written yourself. If it's a download I would suggest downloading it again.
 

yosindrax

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Alright now I understand very well formulated, so a noob like me can understand it!
- So I guess it will be hard for me to get the Data somehow and the "useful" data is from a forum I found who made it able to read my grafic card so my computer could boot, the problem is I cant remember where I found it and dont got a backup of it, thats what im worried about to loose the data but as I can understand its splitted up 50/50 between the HDDs then because of the striped-array.

- Once again thanks, will try do a clean reinstall of the OS and change it to AHCI and booting up by only 1 HDD then!
- To the loss of data, hmm not much to do I guess sounds complicated to save it