rebuilt Desktop PCs

[DefinitelyNotTom]

f you MUST buy a mainstream pc and keep its power supply in, which brands are the ebst bet? I see micro center's brand has all EVGA ones, at least, apparently, and one has the B line certified bronze. From looking at customization on hp's site, apparently they put bronze ones in theirs (at least their current envy and omen lines). I could customize on cyberpowerpc's site or originpc's site, but to get what I want, they both come up a couple hundred too much, after I already basically doubled my budget to start with! I can't build one myself because my vision sucks and I know nobody to help me. Another option is buy one disregarding which psu is in it and maybe a repair shop or best buy would switch out the psu for me? I wonder how much they would charge.... Too abd I don't live near a micro center...

 

[DefinitelyNotTom]

Here is how desperate I am to get one soon... I am typing this on a ps4, thus the typo for the topic title and some other words missing letters. I have a customer waiting on something from me and no computer here... another reason building isn't an option, due to no experience. Also, it looks to me like dell uses way underpowered psu choices... and acer and asus look to be not much better. hp is only slighty better in wattage, but at least they're bronze. I am leaning towards either micro center's store brand or buyign one and paying someone to put a new psu in.

 

[okcnaline]

What are you using it for? And what's your budget?

 

[DefinitelyNotTom]

Mostyl everyday stuff and programming, but I stillw ant ability to (down the line) have it good enough for acceptable 4k videoe diting. I originally was going to get an i7 7700 or 7700k. However, since gaming isn't what i care about, I read that an AMD ryzen 1600 or 1700 would be much better for video editing than an i7 and that a radeon gpu is better than nvidia as well. I also needboth a HDD and SSD and 16GB memory. I am trying very hard to stay at $1k or below and I have found some on sale for $900-$1100 that have what I want, but the psu wouldld be unknown in allof them except micro center's brand and apparently the hp ones And all of those under $1100 are i7 instead of ryzen. Amicro center with ryzen, but nvidia card, is $1250. Anwyay... so the horror stories I see on this site acting like you must rush to get the psu out of a pc purchased is worryign me, but obviously it's not THAT common, as I ahve had only 1 psu go out... ever. And it was in a "mini" dell. A repair guy told me that most people who complain about a stock psu are adding components and then blaming the psu, but I don't know... I would obviously rather have a good one.

 

[DefinitelyNotTom]

btw, what started this is a windows update corrupted my HDD appaently. When I boot up, it goes to a "choose your keyboard layout" screen and the keyboard and mouse stop working. I tried hp's windows startup repair, tried getting into safe mode, downloaded windows 10 and tried to get to "reset windows 10" and the option was not even there (apparently not recognizing my HDD onC, tried installing a free browser to access my files and it gave an error in that OS saying it couldn't start windows. So i am going get another computer (whichi needed anyway, as mine was always making noises and had bad specs) rather than totally restoring to win 7 and losing files.

 

[okcnaline]

I don't understand...

So your eyesight is too poor to build a computer yet you're planning to video edit and program?

 

[DefinitelyNotTom]

doing stuff on a monitor is a lot different than tiny little plugs and pins on computer parts, me never having done soldering, figuring out how to place everything, etc... Not to mention then if something goes wrong, I don't have a big name computer manufacturer fixing it for free. It would be fun to do, but I don't see how I could be capable of even doing it. Not to mention the chance of being shocked when building computers. I would know which parts to buy for the processor, gpu, psu, maybe even motherboard, but the would also be stuck on fans and cooling and how to fit everything together.

 

[okcnaline]

How about I link you to a video so you can decide what build a computer is like.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbDiSMQ_L_k

There's no soldering involved. Getting shocked by components? I haven't seen a problem like that here.

 

[DefinitelyNotTom]

someone must have, since any article about even changing out a part talks about precautions to avoid being shocked.

 

[okcnaline]

Yeah, probably before 2010. Building a PC can guarantee high-quality and high-value components; not so for prebuilts.

 

[DefinitelyNotTom]

what would have changed in 2010? ALso, you're guaranteed good parts for processor and graphics card and sometimes memory because those you know flat out what you're getting. And on some the psu and motherboard ar elisted also. So that leaves basically cooling fans and hard drives that may not have the name. Like I said, I would defiitely want to build one if I could, but I bet I'd end up withy parts and not able to build it. I know nothing at all about building one. I have no idea how you arrange stuff in the case, which case to even get, how everythng stays "in" the case, which fans to get, etc... I could properly get the processor, gpu, motherboard (maybe.... or maybe not since i wouldnt know which ones are co[mpatible with what), memory, hard drives. Then I'd have no idea on fans... and what else would I need? I read where someone rated a computer poorly solely due to it "not having extra cables" so I assume that means I have to buy cables for parts rather than them come with them...

 

[DefinitelyNotTom]

Like I said, having to type and use a ps4 and I cant figure out how to even make new paragraphs because enter or ctr+enter dont add new lines on the ps4... Anyway, if I get all the parts and cant figure out how to build it I wonder how easy it would be to pay smeone to do it and stay under cost of a prebuilt? Some of these prebuilts get on sale so low that people say buying the same parts used in them would cost more than the sale price. Also I saw newegg had a 1 TB SSD on sale for barely over $200 this morning, but I asumed it must be a bad brand or something because someone told me even a 500gb SSD normally costs like $400 I think. See wouldnt even be sure which drives to buy, either. And I a in a hurry to get a comp very quickly, whereas who knows how long it would take a legally blind person who never built a comp to build one. lol.

 

[okcnaline]

There's something really inconsistent here. Are you ACTUALLY legally blind, or are you just really stubborn with prebuilts? The video shows that building a computer is RIDICULOUSLY easy!

Components these days are electronically durable enough that most likely you WON'T have static kill the components. Choosing components are easy enough; there are plenty of experts here who can help, and I can make the build fit your needs.

 

[DefinitelyNotTom]

if static wont kill the components, then that means there is no point to avoid stock power supplies then. yes, I am legally blind, and the video wouldnt even play, so it's either taken down or the ps4 wont play it.

 

[DefinitelyNotTom]

not sure why you brought up static and components anwyay. I said physically getting shocked was the concern plus seing the components well enough. Also, I have read where it's likely when yuo're done you will have something not right and it be hard to figure out the problem/

 

[okcnaline]

Stock power supplies...?

As for the video, your PS4 probably won't play it. And you WILL NOT get physically shocked unless you decide to open up a PSU. As for component size... I guess that's a point. The phillips screws used in computers are pretty small.

For programming, I would suggest multiple monitors and high core count. Most Lenovo or Dell workstations can do you the job.

 

[DefinitelyNotTom]

If I could think of a friend or family member who has built a pc before then I'd chance it and they could help with screwing in the mobo at least. But I can't think of anyone offhand.