[SOLVED] Recommendations for upgrading old PC?

[ChristianO]

I'm want to preface this by saying I've bee out of the loop for years when it comes to PC building.

I've been having issues with stability - random shutdowns and restarts. All signs point to hardware failure and stress tests won't recreate the issue. All my parts were purchased and installed in 2014 so I want to go ahead and replace my Mobo, PSU, and memory. I'd love to get some good upgrades that'll last since my build lasted me years (except my GPU)

My current build is as follows:
i7-4770k
16GB DDR3 G.Skill Sniper @ 1600
RTX 2060
NZXT Hale 850 Gold rated PSU
Gigabyte Mobo

Any help is appreciated!

 

[4745454b]

My guess would be a board or PSU failure.

The 2060 is a good GPU, getting a newer board and CPU isn't a bad idea. But I don't think it will improve your frame rates that much.

 

[ChristianO]

My guess would be a board or PSU failure.

The 2060 is a good GPU, getting a newer board and CPU isn't a bad idea. But I don't think it will improve your frame rates that much.

I'm not looking to increase frame rate, slight performance increase is cool but I'm already running games like outer worlds or modern warfare at 1440p ultra with great frames. I just wanna fix the instability issue with new parts, and this is a great way to warrant new components lol

 

[4745454b]

Moving to AMD would work well. The Ryzen 2700(x) is a good gaming CPU. Go for a good B450 board or better. BF/CM is going on right now so sales are all over the place. Pair it with some DDR4-3200 or better ram. I'm sure you can pull this off right now for ~$300.

The issue is if it's the PSU this won't fix anything. Can you barrow a PSU from a friend and see if the problem goes away? I'd hate to spend $300+ only to have the problem continue.

 

[123364]

I'm not looking to increase frame rate, slight performance increase is cool but I'm already running games like outer worlds or modern warfare at 1440p ultra with great frames. I just wanna fix the instability issue with new parts, and this is a great way to warrant new components lol

I agree that the 2060 is good. right now is a great time to buy a new cpu/mobo though. Start by giving us a budget maybe.

Some suggestions:
CPU:
Ryzen 7 2700X ($199.95 ) https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-Pr...40540205c5c7567007388cf66510a3&language=en_US

Ryzen 7 3800x ($329.99) https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B...MZLPJ&linkId=8a2c427503dc3d645932ca7d555c5d2d

Memory:
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16820232880?nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-Linus+Tech+Tips&AFFID=3641906&AFFNAME=Linus+Tech+Tips&ACRID=1&ASUBID=&ASID=https://www.youtube.com/&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=3641906&ranSiteID=odkoVVpgbeM-NCzg1SaA1oOHUaeeogxZUw

You could go Mini ITX on mobo if you wanted to.

 

[vMax]

A fairly cost effective upgrade would be the Ryzen 3600, B450 Motherboard and 2 x 8GB DDR4 3600...the rest can be reused but if you do not have a NVMe drive factor that in as well...RAM has never been so cheap and 16GB DDR4 3600 is just under $70.

This would provide a nice upgrade and performance boost and allow for future for future expansion.

 

[ChristianO]

I agree that the 2060 is good. right now is a great time to buy a new cpu/mobo though. Start by giving us a budget maybe.

I ju

I agree that the 2060 is good. right now is a great time to buy a new cpu/mobo though. Start by giving us a budget maybe.

Yeah, ideally I originally planned to spend around 300 for a new Mobo, ram, and PSU. I didn't originally plan on buying a CPU

A fairly cost effective upgrade would be the Ryzen 3600, B450 Motherboard and 2 x 8GB DDR4 3600...the rest can be reused but if you do not have a NVMe drive factor that in as well...RAM has never been so cheap and 16GB DDR4 3600 is just under $70.

This would provide a nice upgrade and performance boost and allow for future for future expansion.

But this leaves the PSU to be upgraded too. I originally did not plan to spend more than 300 since the CPU is fine (it works) and it's just the PSU and Mobo causing issues. From what I've been experiencing.

 

[vMax]

Yep you are right as this will take you over $300. How old is your 850w PSU as that should be more than okay...

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MjpPbX

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($185.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard ($110.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $351.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-30 14:41 EST-0500

 

[4745454b]

The problem with not replacing your CPU is any board you find to run it will still be years old. And possibly dying like yours. If you are buying a board you might as well buy current gen. Using vMax's build above, I'd drop down to an older Ryzen 2xxx. You can drop down to the 2600 which is only $115. That money saved will allow you to buy a new PSU and stay around $350. The 2700X is also cheaper at $160. That has more cores and similar speed.

 

[ChristianO]

Yep you are right as this will take you over $300. How old is your 850w PSU as that should be more than okay...

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MjpPbX

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($185.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard ($110.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $351.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-30 14:41 EST-0500

The issue may be the PSU in the first place so it'll need to be replaced.

 

[ChristianO]

The problem with not replacing your CPU is any board you find to run it will still be years old. And possibly dying like yours. If you are buying a board you might as well buy current gen. Using vMax's build above, I'd drop down to an older Ryzen 2xxx. You can drop down to the 2600 which is only $115. That money saved will allow you to buy a new PSU and stay around $350. The 2700X is also cheaper at $160. That has more cores and similar speed.

Yeah, that's true. Definitely something to look for on Cyber Monday. I'm not worried about spending more, I'm stable with some extra spending money so I'm not worried, just didn't expect to spend more bc I didn't even think about the CPU. I'm glad you brought it up.

 

[4745454b]

You can certainly try a new board and PSU and get another year or two out of it. Maybe more. But if yours is failing any second hand one is probably going to be failing as well.

I'm big on the Ryzen 2xxx CPUs. They are much cheaper than the newer 3xxx ones, and nearly as fast. The biggest thing you are lacking is the PCIe 4.0. Which isn't really out yet. But as I mentioned above they are much cheaper. Just look for sales tomorrow and pick a good combo.