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Recommended Builds by Usage
Last Updated on May 21, 2011
Reviewed and updated builds as required

Last Updated on March 26, 2011
Updated builds for newer components and replacing the Sandy Bridge motherboards for Rev3.0 versions

This thread is to provide a few "pre-built" options for those looking to build or upgrade based on usage, not including monitor, keyboard, mouse, speakers or OS. I have defined the usage guidelines using information provided to me by sKora in his Index of "If sKora had..." topics thread under the "sKora's system design guide beta v0.1" section... Thanks sKora for providing me this information.

Bargain - Just a box that turns on and runs programs. This is older 2nd and 3rd gen tech and is built as a one and done. Very few parts can or should be carried over to a future build after a bargain build has exhausted its useful life.
Budget - Maximize the price/performance ratio and have some upgrade path. Budget builders have high enough standards to spend extra on quality parts that offer resonable returns. Its current tech after but usually baby brother versions of the high end options. They also will consider upgrade paths and options for future builds with what is bought now.
Gamer - With Price/Performance in mind, its more about getting great performance and quality and willing to pay some premium for it. Gamers use current tech with high end components, but not elite. The upgrade path is limited here as the initial build generally is near the top of the tech tree. Gamers aren't usually immediate adopters of next gen tech, but willing to do a full platform upgrade when warranted instead of just a component or too.
Enthusiast - Whats price? Performance at most any level. These are the ones buying multi GPU systems and the most powerful CPUs. Highest quality and the most current tech. Upgrades will happen until something else bright and shiney comes along that can't be stuck in their current system, then its a new build again. This will be the thinnest section from me and would need help from those that actually build/use these systems.
HTPC - This PC is designed to be used as Home Theater PC for the end user. It is not designed to be a gaming machine but requires some level of graphics power to play movies on a "Big Screen" TV.
Non-Gamer - This PC is designed for running office programs, internet, music... etc. Basically, a Dell PC... :D It is similar to my "Bargain" build but requires less video graphics power.
WorkStation - This PC is designed for running workstation applications designed towards the professional applications and systems.

As with all new builds, I highly recommend doing your research before doing any build to determine what your needs are.

I have provided what I find to be useful sites and areas to look for those answers.
Google - If you cannot find it there... than you probably won't find it anywhere... :D
Step-by-Step Guide to Building a PC - This is my thread on how to build a PC step-by-step.
*How To Ask For New Build Advice* - This is the best thread to review how to ask for advice and is a required format to get the best answers.
PERFORM THESE STEPS before posting about boot/no video problems! - This thread provides very good details on trouble shooting when you have boot issues after your build.
*Guide to Choosing Parts* - This thread provides a very good guide in choosing parts and provides many important links and ideas.
Homebuilt PC Buying Guide - This thread provides a good guide in choosing parts for a new build.
Core 2 Overclocking Guide - This thread provides a very good guide to overclocking on the LGA 775.
LGA 1156 Core i5 and Core i7 Overclocking guide - This thread provides a very good guide to overclocking on the LGA 1156 CPU's.
CPU and Heatsink Lapping Guides - This thread provides information on lapping CPU's and Heatsinks to help improve the the thermal transfer between them.
CPU Buyer's Guide 2.0 - This thread provides good information on the end's & out's on what CPU to buy and related information.
The PSU Ranked List and Guide - This is a newer thread that has been created to provide a nice guideline for ranked PSU's by AMP's and Tier Levels.
Useful SSD Articles - This a good thread to research on Solid State Drives and what you need to understand about them.
Power Requirements and Specs for Popular Graphics Cards Guide - This is a new thread providing recommended power supply direction based on the graphics card you plan on purchasing.
Best Of Tom’s Hardware: Beginner’s Guide To Motherboard Selection - This is a great Tom's Hardware article on what to think about and look for when choosing a motherboard.
FrostyTech - Best Heat Sinks & PC Cooling - The website provides good reviews and rankings on all things heatsinks.
eXtreme Power Supply Calcuator Lite V2.5 - This site is a very useful site when you are trying to figure out what your power requirements are for your new build, so you get an idea on what PSU waltage you will need.
AnandTech: - I find this site has very good links to multiple reviews from many different sites you'll see referenced and pretty up-to-date on news.
techPowerUp! - I find this site has very good links to multiple reviews from many different sites you'll see referenced and pretty up-to-date on news.
JonnyGuru - The website provides good reivews and rankings on power supplies.
Mouse Ergonomics Guide from Razer - This is a good guide in providing an understanding the different grip styles for a mouse. (Thanks for the info.... jonsy2k)

All builds take a OS, Speakers, Monitors, Keyboards & a Mouse. I have not included those in the builds in my lists below in the other post, but I have listed a few I would recommend to add to any of my builds. This will add cost above and beyond what I have listed as budgets. Most builds I have helped OP's with over the last few months, normally have these components already, but I did want to give options for those that don't.

Operating System: Updated to include the three major OS still in use by Users (Thanks for the feedback... 4ryan6 & psycho sykes)
Microsoft Windows XP Professional SP3 32-bit for System Builders - OEM
Microsoft Windows Vista Business SP1 64-bit for System Builders - OEM
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM
Ubuntu

Monitor:
Hanns·G HW-191APB Black 19" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor - Retail
ASUS VH236H Black 23" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen Full HD 1080P LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 20000 :1 (ASCR) Built-in Speakers
ASUS VW246H Black 24" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor - Retail
ASUS VE278Q Black 27" 1920x1080 2ms Full HD HDMI LED Backlight LCD Monitor w/Speakers 300 cd/m2 ASCR 10,000,000:1
Dell UltraSharp U3011 30-inch Widescreen Flat Panel Monitor

Keyboard:
Logitech K120 Black USB Wired Standard Keyboard
Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000 - Retail
Saitek Eclipse II Illuminated Keyboard
RAZER Lycosa Black 104 Normal Keys USB Wired Standard Gaming Keyboard - Retail
Logitech G19 Black USB Wired Standard Gaming Keyboard - Retail

Mouse:
Microsoft D66-00066 Black 3 Buttons 1 x Wheel USB or PS/2 Wired Optical Mouse - OEM
RAZER DeathAdder Precision Optical Gaming Mouse - 3.5G Infrared Sensor
GIGABYTE GM-M8000X Rubber Black 7 Buttons USB Wired Laser Gaming Mouse (Recommended by obsidian86)
Cooler Master Sentinel Advance Gaming Mouse SGM-6000-KLLW1-GP, 8 Button, 5600 DPI, w/ OLED Display (Recommended by obsidian86)
Logitech G9x Black Two modes scroll USB Wired Laser 5700 dpi Gaming Mouse (Recommended by dirtdiver)
RAZER Mamba Black 7 Buttons USB Laser Gaming Mouse - Dual Mode Wired/Wireless Functionality - Retail

Speakers / Headset:
Logitech S-220 17 Watts 2.1 Multimedia Speaker System - OEM
Logitech Z506 75 watts RMS 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers
Logitech Z-5500 505 Watts 5.1 Speaker - Retail
M-Audio Studiophile BX5a Deluxe 70-watt Bi-amplified Studio Reference Monitors (Recommended by Zinosys)
Logitech H360 USB Connector Supra-aural Headset
Creative Fatal1ty Professional Series Gaming Headset MKII

Routers: (Recommended by just a nickname)
TRENDnet TEW-639GR IEEE 802.3/3u/3ab, IEEE 802.11b/g, IEEE802.11n 2 Wireless Router - Retail
D-Link DIR-655 IEEE 802.3/3u, IEEE 802.11g, IEEE802.11n Draft 2 Xtreme N Gigabit Wireless Router - Retail
D-Link DGL-4100 10/100/1000Mbps GamerLounge Broadband Gigabit Gaming Router - Retail

Extras:
1ST PC CORP. 12" 8-pin EPS extension cable Model CB-8M-8F - Retail - This is normally needed on full size cases to help with the cable management.
ICY DOCK MB882SP-1S-1B 2.5" to 3.5" SSD & SATA Hard Drive Converter - Black - Retail - This will be required when you purchase a SSD to convert it to a 3.5" drive for your case.
SpeedFan - Very useful tool to download to monitor temps and control fan speeds.
CPUID's CPU-Z - Very useful tool to download to monitor system information and speeds.
CPUID's Hardware Monitor - - Very useful tool to download to monitor temps, fan speeds and voltage.
Real Temp - CPU Temperature Monitoring - Very useful tool to download to monitor your CPU temps.
CoreTemp - Very useful tool to download to monitor your CPU temps.
Prime95 - Most used downloaded software to stress your system to make sure it is stable throughout each process (overclocking... etc.)
MemTest86+ - Most used downloaded software to test your memory to make sure it is not defective.
■Futuremark's 3DMark Vantage (Vista / Win7) or 3DMark06 (XP) - Most used downloaded benchmark software to be compared against to see how your system ranks with similar parts.

I listed the information provided in Proximon's *Guide to Choosing Parts* on building a PC, since it is very good information and felt it was important to post in my thread, as well.
■Here is a GOOD step-by-step. Really good. If you encounter anything in any other links that contradict this, THIS is the right one. Sadly, no pics: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/How_To_Assemble_A_Desktop_PC/Assembly#CPU
■Here is a tutorial with pictures that shows how to put together a cheap PC. All parts are cheap and you should NOT use the PSU they use: http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/build_a_500_pc_play_crysis_40fps?page=0,1
■This you tube video has some good points, and is done with fairly modern equipment, all new. The case he is using is a micro-ATX case from Antec: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdsUuWlhOvo
■Proximon's method for applying thermal paste to Heatpipe Direct Touch (HDT) coolers such as the Xigmatek or Sunbeam CCTF: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/252942-29-some-notes-applying-thermal-paste-xigmatek
■This is a good ariticle about "Building a PC: Step by Step Guide" using current parts by DriverHeaven... http://www.driverheaven.net/articles.php?articleid=132&pageid=1
■This is a good Tom's Hardware article about how to put a PC together. I would recommend reading through this one, as well: http://www.tomshardware.com/review_print.php?p1=1382

Thanks for taking the time to read through my post and making this a stickie. My goal is to update this once or twice a month as new technology comes out and prices change.
 

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Thanks... I will review/update tomorrow...

Also, if you or anyone else has a good HTPC build, please PM me or post it here and I'll add a build for it to the first page. I don't have experience with HTPC builds, so I never posted a build for one.
 

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I was just wondering if all i needed to get a faster computer for gaming is to upgrade my processor. Right now i have:

Manufacturer:
GBT___

Processor:
Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.66GHz

Memory:
2048MB RAM

Hard Drive:
137 GB

Video Card:
NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GS

Monitor:
Plug and Play Monitor

Sound Card:
Realtek AC97 Audio

Operating System:
Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)

Im sure most of that should make my computer perfect for gaming, but for some reason i have extremely laggy performance even with the minimum graphics quality.

Oh, and if i do need to upgrade, what core should i get?
 

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I have a question. Why do the builds have different DVD drives when the price for all three drives is about the same. In fact the Sony drive in the budget build is the most expensive.

I'm looking for a DVD drive to replace my existing IDE drive and wonder if I should just go with the Samsung.
 

tecmo34

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Thanks for pointing that out. At one time the Samsung was out of stock when I put the build together and I just forgot to update that build.

I would go with the Samsung. I have that drive in both the recent builds I did & does just fine.
 

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Both PSU are very good for the price... I don't have anything against modulars but for they most part they are more expensive so I try to get the best build for a certain price range. I would recommend those for builds if you were requesting help on a build no problem. The builds I list are setup to be 1.) Give a new OP an idea of what they can expect to pay / get with a certain budget, WITHOUT taking into account, Discounts, MIR or Combos 2.) Be used for someone's build.

I list parts that I like and if recommendations are made that I agree with, I update my builds based on people's feedback. My builds are bascially a starting point and the end user can customize as they see fit, since not everyone likes the same parts or manufacturers. I had one OP send me a PM and asking about my builds and want to take my budget AM3 build and use the CM HAF 922 and if he would have issues with that. Of course, I said he won't and looks like he was going forward with my build but switching out a case he likes better.
 

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I have updated to include the Core i5 (LGA 1156) as my Gamer build! I felt early results favor it over the Core i7 (LGA 1366) at a cheaper price. The LGA 1366 board now seems more reserved for the enthusiast builder with the plans to be running the Core i9 next year and beyond.

I will review more as the prices drop (if at all) on the AM3 sockets to see if I can fit better builds in the same budget range and with the introduction for the DX11 cards later this month...
 
Great update with the i5 gamer build. The I5 seems to dominate the gamer price range on its first day released. Also that CPU cooler you chose is the Hyper 212 that is on Frosty's top 10 intel list (look at the box on neweggs picture). You will have a hard time finding better (and its cheap!).

It might be worth doing a budget i5 build. It would show how far down into the budget range intel has become competitive with AMD overnight. The i5 performance is a good bit better than the PhenomII x3 CPU so its worth a little more to a value conscious buyer. Hmmm... a "value build" for people more concerned with bang for buck than any other factor?

The I5 seems set to bite deep into both old intel and AMD CPU sales. Almost too good to be true.
 
Many of the AMD CPUs will still make sense due to continued support for DDR2 and the lower prices for DDR2. If DDR3 drops again though, that could be a big hit to AMD.

Also, Anand has this to say:

I don't believe LGA-1366 is dead, but there's absolutely no reason to buy anything slower than a 965 if you're going that route.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3634

Why would that be? Well, I think the more you look at PLATFORM prices and benchmarks the more you'll tend to agree.
If we take your current enthusiast rig and plug in an LGA 1156 build, I think the difference in price will allow even faster GPUs without sacrificing more than a few FPS max to the CPU change.
 
I dont see it. The price gap in DDR2 and DDR3 2x2GB kits is only $20. There is a motherboard price gap of maybe $50 (if you want comparable features). Where is the CPU price gap? Right now there isnt one. Its only $70 to get a faster higher tech CPU/Mobo/RAM combo. You have a pretty small "absolutely cant spend over $800" demographic for AMD if they dont drop CPU prices to increase the price/performance gap some.
 

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Several nitpicky points:

Two typos, you say LGA 1136 is reserved for enthusiasts instead of 1366 in the second "Gamer" system.

More subjectively, your AMD "gamer" system does not make much sense as it is priced too much more than the i5 system. It would make quite a bit more sense if you used a Gigabyte 790X motherboard, priced $70 with similar (not exactly the same) capabilities. You should also probably shave cost on your RAM, perhaps recommend this G Skill, if you recommend DDR3-1600 at all. Finally, I think if you are going to recommend spending >$20 on a CPU cooler in a "budget" system, you should recommend spending <$10 more on an unlocked CPU first.

Very, very good guide otherwise.
 
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I'm going to have to agree with smithereen with the AMD "gamer" build. Getting a 965 over the 955 doesn't make that much sense to me unless you don't plan on overclocking for some unknown reason (especially when you include a HSF in the budget.. but I understand that these are templates/guides for curious people so I'm not gonna nag too much about that).

Anyways in your "bargain" section, you should swap out the 320GB Blue Caviar from WD to: (they are the same price and I'm sure I don't need to tell you the performance gains from f3 series)

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM - $ 49.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152181&Tpk=f3%20500gb

PS. Keep up the good work on keeping this guide so up to date.
 

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Rokez & Smithereen... I agree with the both of you. I put the AM3 builds together against the cost of an Core i7 build, so they were good prices. I plan on reviewing/updating the AM3 builds in a day or two. I'm waiting to see how AMD fights back with price cuts to fight the Core i5 pricing to performance lead it took.

I will update the hard drive in my bargain build and hope to add a budget Core i5 build, if I can get the cost down good enough.

Thanks for everyone's feedback & suggestions!!!
 


Comparable RAM would be DDR2 1066 CL5 vs DDR3 1333 CL7... So about $25 bucks.
Comparable G.skill kits:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231246
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231276

And yes, I'm talking about X2 and X3 Phenom II type builds. Not X4... although possibly there may be some price adjustments coming from AMD.


 

tecmo34

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No question in this thread. It is a thread to help with noobies with options on builds based on usage & budgets. It is more informational type thread (a sickie like thread, without being one).
 

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Haha :lol: Now I get it but you said you'd choose an answer to be the best IF ITS POSTER DOES ????????

Good luck for everyone though :sarcastic: ... .

Regards.
 

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I have added a budget Core i5 build... I was able to build one for $747.90, which is a little higher than my AM3 budget build but still will perform well for it's price range.

I will review the AM3 builds later in the week and see if I can tweak them a little for better pricing, without giving up too much performance to drop prices.