Recommended CPU for RX 570 8GB

[oltean.andrei95]

Hello,

I recently acquired the GPU and I want to change the CPU as well. Currently, I have the Ryzen 3 1200 and I feel like its underperforming with the GPU. Which Ryzen should I get in order to get the best of out the RX? I've had my eyes on the 1600x but I'm not sure if that'll work well.

Any reply is greatly appreciated

 

[racksmith101]

Depends on your motherboard and ram, if you've have a350 then you're probably better off with a 1500x and overclocking it. The 570 would bottleneck the 1600x (the 1600 performs just as well when overclocked and is cheaper). Either way as long as you have 2 memory sticks (preferably 3000mhz) for dual channel then either would be good.

 

[oltean.andrei95]

I currently have the B350M and 1 stick of 8gb ram

 

[WildCard999]

I currently have the B350M and 1 stick of 8gb ram

The single stick will hurt performance slightly but all you should have to do is overclock the 1200 as far as it will safely go and I would also try to overclock the RAM. The R3 1200/RX 570 should be a good combo if your playing at 1080P.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

^+1 CPU and GPU would be balanced nicely. As Wildcard said, you have a B350 mobo, OC the CPU and it will drive the GPU perfectly. Just keep in mind, in some games the 4c/4t R1200 will max out, so you may get some stuttering in some CPU demanding games like BF1. But the 570 is capable for 1080p medium to high settings and with solid FPS.

Edit: Ive a 1600x and it's a beast. If you get one, then your GPU becomes the bottleneck as the 1600x with an OC can drive any high end GPU out there just fine. But getting the 1600/x will eliminate game stuttering that the R1200 would suffer with. The R1600/x are great gaming/streaming/mulititasking CPU's.

 

[oltean.andrei95]

I currently have the B350M and 1 stick of 8gb ram

The single stick will hurt performance slightly but all you should have to do is overclock the 1200 as far as it will safely go and I would also try to overclock the RAM. The R3 1200/RX 570 should be a good combo if your playing at 1080P.

I have overclocked it to 3.9 stable but I don't notice such a huge improvement. Can it be due to the fact that i only have 1 stick of ram? I overclocked it to 2666 but I can't tell if it worked or not.

 

[oltean.andrei95]

^+1 CPU and GPU would be balanced nicely. As Wildcard said, you have a B350 mobo, OC the CPU and it will drive the GPU perfectly. Just keep in mind, in some games the 4c/4t R1200 will max out, so you may get some stuttering in some CPU demanding games like BF1. But the 570 is capable for 1080p medium to high settings and with solid FPS.

Edit: Ive a 1600x and it's a beast. If you get one, then your GPU becomes the bottleneck as the 1600x with an OC can drive any high end GPU out there just fine. But getting the 1600/x will eliminate game stuttering that the R1200 would suffer with. The R1600/x are great gaming/streaming/mulititasking CPU's.

The thing is that I am only able to reach 30-40 frames on medium-high on the new Assassin's Creed. I tried changing the resolution hoping it'll make a difference but it's not noticeable.

 

[WildCard999]

I currently have the B350M and 1 stick of 8gb ram

The single stick will hurt performance slightly but all you should have to do is overclock the 1200 as far as it will safely go and I would also try to overclock the RAM. The R3 1200/RX 570 should be a good combo if your playing at 1080P.

I have overclocked it to 3.9 stable but I don't notice such a huge improvement. Can it be due to the fact that i only have 1 stick of ram? I overclocked it to 2666 but I can't tell if it worked or not.

It may be part of it, Ryzen really prefers 3200mhz in dual channel.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

I currently have the B350M and 1 stick of 8gb ram

The single stick will hurt performance slightly but all you should have to do is overclock the 1200 as far as it will safely go and I would also try to overclock the RAM. The R3 1200/RX 570 should be a good combo if your playing at 1080P.

I have overclocked it to 3.9 stable but I don't notice such a huge improvement. Can it be due to the fact that i only have 1 stick of ram? I overclocked it to 2666 but I can't tell if it worked or not.

It may be part of it, Ryzen really prefers 3200mhz in dual channel.

Well, yeah it may be part of it, but the increase in ram speed will only account for anywhere between 5-15% increase in FPS game dependant, which doesn't really account for 30-40 fps in game (although I would admit AC is demanding enough) In this case, it's possible if the OP has OC'ed the DIMMS as well it's possibly not stable and causing issues. Maybe the CPU OC isn't stable either?

To the OP what are you using to test for stability? What are your temps like? Monitor your system with HWmon/info to see whats going on in the back round. Also, try dial back in game settings and see if that affects FPS. If it does, then your just pushing the GPU too hard.

I'd suggest just starting with a CPU overclock first. Get it really stable i.e test with Prime95 small ffts, watch your temps, because if the CPU is too hot it will throttle and cause issues like that. Get your CPU stable, and worry about the ram afterwards.

Also, although there is a huge benefit to having dual channel ram set ups in certain metrics (memory bandwitdh, benchmarks etc) it has very little effect on actual gaming FPS versus a single channel configuration. So don't get hung up on that.

edit: 3.9 on an R1200 is pretty amazing. What cooling are you using. I suspect it's far too high an OC. What voltage are you using to achieve 'stable'? You should really monitor your temps with that OC.

 

[mgallo848]

Keeping this short and simple:

A Ryzen 1600 would be a great upgrade. If price is a concern at least get a Ryzen 1400 or higher (1400 starts at 4 cores/8 threads) Your current CPU is only 4 cores/ 4 threads.

Newer Ryzen chips (2000 series), look at 2400 or higher. (same reason as above)

You NEED 2 matching sticks of fast RAM. A single stick of slow RAM will cause you to lose alot of FPS in games.

Hope this helps

 

[oltean.andrei95]

I currently have the B350M and 1 stick of 8gb ram

The single stick will hurt performance slightly but all you should have to do is overclock the 1200 as far as it will safely go and I would also try to overclock the RAM. The R3 1200/RX 570 should be a good combo if your playing at 1080P.

I have overclocked it to 3.9 stable but I don't notice such a huge improvement. Can it be due to the fact that i only have 1 stick of ram? I overclocked it to 2666 but I can't tell if it worked or not.

It may be part of it, Ryzen really prefers 3200mhz in dual channel.

Well, yeah it may be part of it, but the increase in ram speed will only account for anywhere between 5-15% increase in FPS game dependant, which doesn't really account for 30-40 fps in game (although I would admit AC is demanding enough) In this case, it's possible if the OP has OC'ed the DIMMS as well it's possibly not stable and causing issues. Maybe the CPU OC isn't stable either?

To the OP what are you using to test for stability? What are your temps like? Monitor your system with HWmon/info to see whats going on in the back round. Also, try dial back in game settings and see if that affects FPS. If it does, then your just pushing the GPU too hard.

I'd suggest just starting with a CPU overclock first. Get it really stable i.e test with Prime95 small ffts, watch your temps, because if the CPU is too hot it will throttle and cause issues like that. Get your CPU stable, and worry about the ram afterwards.

Also, although there is a huge benefit to having dual channel ram set ups in certain metrics (memory bandwitdh, benchmarks etc) it has very little effect on actual gaming FPS versus a single channel configuration. So don't get hung up on that.

edit: 3.9 on an R1200 is pretty amazing. What cooling are you using. I suspect it's far too high an OC. What voltage are you using to achieve 'stable'? You should really monitor your temps with that OC.

I have attached a picture of the temps/voltage that I have on the Ryzen atm. GAMMAXX 300 is the cooler I'm using

https://imgur.com/a/pW9mrJt

For testing, I was using Prime95 and IntelBurnTest for stress test and HWMonitor and CPU-Z for temp monitoring

 

[oltean.andrei95]

Keeping this short and simple:

A Ryzen 1600 would be a great upgrade. If price is a concern at least get a Ryzen 1400 or higher (1400 starts at 4 cores/8 threads) Your current CPU is only 4 cores/ 4 threads.

Newer Ryzen chips (2000 series), look at 2400 or higher. (same reason as above)

You NEED 2 matching sticks of fast RAM. A single stick of slow RAM will cause you to lose alot of FPS in games.

Hope this helps

The thing is that I know it'll be an upgrade compared to my Ryzen 3 but I don't wanna buy it and then realize that the GPU is being bottlenecked by it or vice versa

 

[mgallo848]

Any of the CPUs I mentioned are more than fast enough for a 570.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

I currently have the B350M and 1 stick of 8gb ram

The single stick will hurt performance slightly but all you should have to do is overclock the 1200 as far as it will safely go and I would also try to overclock the RAM. The R3 1200/RX 570 should be a good combo if your playing at 1080P.

I have overclocked it to 3.9 stable but I don't notice such a huge improvement. Can it be due to the fact that i only have 1 stick of ram? I overclocked it to 2666 but I can't tell if it worked or not.

It may be part of it, Ryzen really prefers 3200mhz in dual channel.

Well, yeah it may be part of it, but the increase in ram speed will only account for anywhere between 5-15% increase in FPS game dependant, which doesn't really account for 30-40 fps in game (although I would admit AC is demanding enough) In this case, it's possible if the OP has OC'ed the DIMMS as well it's possibly not stable and causing issues. Maybe the CPU OC isn't stable either?

To the OP what are you using to test for stability? What are your temps like? Monitor your system with HWmon/info to see whats going on in the back round. Also, try dial back in game settings and see if that affects FPS. If it does, then your just pushing the GPU too hard.

I'd suggest just starting with a CPU overclock first. Get it really stable i.e test with Prime95 small ffts, watch your temps, because if the CPU is too hot it will throttle and cause issues like that. Get your CPU stable, and worry about the ram afterwards.

Also, although there is a huge benefit to having dual channel ram set ups in certain metrics (memory bandwitdh, benchmarks etc) it has very little effect on actual gaming FPS versus a single channel configuration. So don't get hung up on that.

edit: 3.9 on an R1200 is pretty amazing. What cooling are you using. I suspect it's far too high an OC. What voltage are you using to achieve 'stable'? You should really monitor your temps with that OC.

I have attached a picture of the temps/voltage that I have on the Ryzen atm. GAMMAXX 300 is the cooler I'm using

https://imgur.com/a/pW9mrJt

For testing, I was using Prime95 and IntelBurnTest for stress test and HWMonitor and CPU-Z for temp monitoring

Your min temp is 57c! That quite high for idle. Like way high. WHat voltage are you using for 3.9? if it's 1.4ish, thats why your temps are high. If they are your temps at idle, your pushing too hard. Your idle temps should be about 30-35, gaming 45-65, stress test Prime 65-80c.

Your cooler is sufficient. But with such a high OC your 65w cpu is vert likely touching the 95w capabilities of the cooler.

 

[oltean.andrei95]

I currently have the B350M and 1 stick of 8gb ram

The single stick will hurt performance slightly but all you should have to do is overclock the 1200 as far as it will safely go and I would also try to overclock the RAM. The R3 1200/RX 570 should be a good combo if your playing at 1080P.

I have overclocked it to 3.9 stable but I don't notice such a huge improvement. Can it be due to the fact that i only have 1 stick of ram? I overclocked it to 2666 but I can't tell if it worked or not.

It may be part of it, Ryzen really prefers 3200mhz in dual channel.

Well, yeah it may be part of it, but the increase in ram speed will only account for anywhere between 5-15% increase in FPS game dependant, which doesn't really account for 30-40 fps in game (although I would admit AC is demanding enough) In this case, it's possible if the OP has OC'ed the DIMMS as well it's possibly not stable and causing issues. Maybe the CPU OC isn't stable either?

To the OP what are you using to test for stability? What are your temps like? Monitor your system with HWmon/info to see whats going on in the back round. Also, try dial back in game settings and see if that affects FPS. If it does, then your just pushing the GPU too hard.

I'd suggest just starting with a CPU overclock first. Get it really stable i.e test with Prime95 small ffts, watch your temps, because if the CPU is too hot it will throttle and cause issues like that. Get your CPU stable, and worry about the ram afterwards.

Also, although there is a huge benefit to having dual channel ram set ups in certain metrics (memory bandwitdh, benchmarks etc) it has very little effect on actual gaming FPS versus a single channel configuration. So don't get hung up on that.

edit: 3.9 on an R1200 is pretty amazing. What cooling are you using. I suspect it's far too high an OC. What voltage are you using to achieve 'stable'? You should really monitor your temps with that OC.

I have attached a picture of the temps/voltage that I have on the Ryzen atm. GAMMAXX 300 is the cooler I'm using

https://imgur.com/a/pW9mrJt

For testing, I was using Prime95 and IntelBurnTest for stress test and HWMonitor and CPU-Z for temp monitoring

Your min temp is 57c! That quite high for idle. Like way high. WHat voltage are you using for 3.9? if it's 1.4ish, thats why your temps are high. If they are your temps at idle, your pushing too hard. Your idle temps should be about 30-35, gaming 45-65, stress test Prime 65-80c.

Your cooler is sufficient. But with such a high OC your 65w cpu is vert likely touching the 95w capabilities of the cooler.

I had Assassin's Creed running in the background and a couple of apps as well.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

I currently have the B350M and 1 stick of 8gb ram

The single stick will hurt performance slightly but all you should have to do is overclock the 1200 as far as it will safely go and I would also try to overclock the RAM. The R3 1200/RX 570 should be a good combo if your playing at 1080P.

I have overclocked it to 3.9 stable but I don't notice such a huge improvement. Can it be due to the fact that i only have 1 stick of ram? I overclocked it to 2666 but I can't tell if it worked or not.

It may be part of it, Ryzen really prefers 3200mhz in dual channel.

Well, yeah it may be part of it, but the increase in ram speed will only account for anywhere between 5-15% increase in FPS game dependant, which doesn't really account for 30-40 fps in game (although I would admit AC is demanding enough) In this case, it's possible if the OP has OC'ed the DIMMS as well it's possibly not stable and causing issues. Maybe the CPU OC isn't stable either?

To the OP what are you using to test for stability? What are your temps like? Monitor your system with HWmon/info to see whats going on in the back round. Also, try dial back in game settings and see if that affects FPS. If it does, then your just pushing the GPU too hard.

I'd suggest just starting with a CPU overclock first. Get it really stable i.e test with Prime95 small ffts, watch your temps, because if the CPU is too hot it will throttle and cause issues like that. Get your CPU stable, and worry about the ram afterwards.

Also, although there is a huge benefit to having dual channel ram set ups in certain metrics (memory bandwitdh, benchmarks etc) it has very little effect on actual gaming FPS versus a single channel configuration. So don't get hung up on that.

edit: 3.9 on an R1200 is pretty amazing. What cooling are you using. I suspect it's far too high an OC. What voltage are you using to achieve 'stable'? You should really monitor your temps with that OC.

I have attached a picture of the temps/voltage that I have on the Ryzen atm. GAMMAXX 300 is the cooler I'm using

https://imgur.com/a/pW9mrJt

For testing, I was using Prime95 and IntelBurnTest for stress test and HWMonitor and CPU-Z for temp monitoring

Your min temp is 57c! That quite high for idle. Like way high. WHat voltage are you using for 3.9? if it's 1.4ish, thats why your temps are high. If they are your temps at idle, your pushing too hard. Your idle temps should be about 30-35, gaming 45-65, stress test Prime 65-80c.

Your cooler is sufficient. But with such a high OC your 65w cpu is vert likely touching the 95w capabilities of the cooler.

I had Assassin's Creed running in the background and a couple of apps as well.

That doesn't really explain the min value. But listen, i've gotten slightly off topic. If you would like to PM me for some tweaks to your OC, i'm happy to help.