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Hey,

I just went through the Third Edition cards and believe the followng cards
should be added to the listed classifications lists.

DEACON: Prochorus
PROPHET: Angel of Revelation, Guiding Angel
FOUGHT IN AN EARTHLY BATTLE: Shaphat
GENERIC: Shepherd, Tribal Elder, Mentor, Servant Angel, Foul Spirit, Unclean
Spirt, Herodian, Lying Spirit, Oppressive Women
ROYAL FAMILY: Shechem
DEMON: Foul Spirit, Unclean Spirit, Lying Spirit
PHARISEE: Herodian
BASED ON PROPHECY: Fountains of Living Water, Book of Gad the Seer, Holy
Ground, Lamplight, The Fifth Seal, The Fourth Seal, Seventh Trumpet, The
Sixth Seal, War in Heaven, The Seventh Seal
INVOLVING MUSIC: Jubilee, Seventh Trumpet
CONNECTED TO DAVID: Book of Gad the Seer
DEPICTING A WEAPON: Jacob's Grandson, War in Heaven, Construction Begins
CONNECTED TO DEMONS: Sectarianism
FALSE RELIGIOUS PRACTICE: Bad Dealings
FOUND IN SOLOMON'S TEMPLE: Altar of Incense, Priestly Crown

Any comments, objections, or felt ommisions please comment?

Tschow,

Sir Nobody
 
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> PROPHET: Angel of Revelation, Guiding Angel

Didn't we reverse on Angels as Prophets? Orgininally they were but I
don't think they are considered prophets now.
 
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Hey,

> > PROPHET: Angel of Revelation, Guiding Angel
>
> Didn't we reverse on Angels as Prophets? Orgininally they were but I
> don't think they are considered prophets now.

I agree that they shouldn't. The verse before the one on Guiding Angel he
refers to John with "you and the other prophets" rather than "us and the
other prophets." Yet The REG includes angels and I have heard no ruling
otherwise. I would very much like to take them off the list. Rob?

Tschow,

Sir Nobody
 
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A few comments:

>PROPHET: Angel of Revelation, Guiding Angel

Going by the verses, I agree with Angel of Revelation, but not with Guiding
Angel (although the previous message may apply here).

>FOUGHT IN AN EARTHLY BATTLE: Shaphat

Maybe I'm being picky, but the Bible doesn't say Shaphat fought in an earthly
battle. He was one of the ten discouraging spies, but it doesn't say he fought.

>PHARISEE: Herodian

While the Herodians often sided with the Pharisees against Jesus, they were not
a religious group but a political party. They were not all Pharisees.

>DEPICTING A WEAPON: Jacob's Grandson

I see a chariot, but nothing else that could be a weapon. I don't think a
chariot in and of itself is a weapon.

>Construction Begins

I think it's a stretch to see building tools as weapons, even if they could be
used as such in a pinch.

>CONNECTED TO DEMONS: Sectarianism

Given the verse I wouldn't oppose this, but the sectarian spirit was not the
result of demon activity, but of human jealousy.

Otherwise, all good catches. And my research was done quickly, so please feel
free to point out verses I have missed.

Steve "Polycarp" Braun
Redemption New Jersey - http://ddicerc.tripod.com
"We may throw the dice, but the Lord determines how they fall." Prov. 16:33,
NLT
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Hey,

> >FOUGHT IN AN EARTHLY BATTLE: Shaphat
>
> Maybe I'm being picky, but the Bible doesn't say Shaphat fought in an
earthly
> battle. He was one of the ten discouraging spies, but it doesn't say he
fought.

I took the perspective that as spies they "equiped military personel" with
information, and had it not been called off it would have been a military
campaign, which kinda qualifies for Earthly Battle. And if I'm not mistaken
he would have fought in several battles they had around that time in
Israel's history.

> >PHARISEE: Herodian
>
> While the Herodians often sided with the Pharisees against Jesus, they
were not
> a religious group but a political party. They were not all Pharisees.

You are right, I missed the word "with" in the verse on the card.

> >DEPICTING A WEAPON: Jacob's Grandson
>
> I see a chariot, but nothing else that could be a weapon. I don't think a
> chariot in and of itself is a weapon.

There is a quiver on the side of the Chariot with a couple arrows sticking
out of it.

> >Construction Begins
>
> I think it's a stretch to see building tools as weapons, even if they
could be
> used as such in a pinch.

This depends on Cactus' definition of Weapon which isn't well defined at
present. I brought it up so that it would be addresed, not because I felt
strongly about it.

Tschow,

Sir Nobody
 
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Hey,

Is Fallen Warrior a Giant? There is a ruling in the REG that says he is,
but in the list of giants and the end of the REG he is not listed and the
Kings version has the identifier "philistine" not "philistine giant."

Sir Nobody
 
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On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 16:15:23 -0500, Sir Nobody wrote:

> Hey,
>
> Is Fallen Warrior a Giant?

I do believe he got dropped from the list. Always enjoyed him being one,
but really he shouldn't be.
 
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> Is Fallen Warrior a Giant? There is a ruling in the REG that says he is,
> but in the list of giants and the end of the REG he is not listed

I would think that, since the REG specifically states that FW is a giant,
that they left him out of the little side note list under "Giant" by
mistake.

The character depicted on the card is a giant.

Another thought, how does FW's special ability relate to a fallen warrior?

Cheers,
Gamer X
 
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Hey,

In addition to the previous question"Is Fallen Warrior a Giant?", I would
also ask, does he count as Goliath? The picture clearly depicts Goliath. I
know he wouldn't count for name-on-name, but would it work for me to carry
the kings' Goliath's Spear on the Warriors' FW?

BobBobBob
"Sir Nobody" <nobodyishome1@juno.com> wrote in message
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> Hey,
>
> Is Fallen Warrior a Giant? There is a ruling in the REG that says he is,
> but in the list of giants and the end of the REG he is not listed and the
> Kings version has the identifier "philistine" not "philistine giant."
>
> Sir Nobody
>
>
 
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> I know he wouldn't count for name-on-name, but would it work for me to
carry
> the kings' Goliath's Spear on the Warriors' FW?

No, because Fallen Warrior isn't Goliath (that's in the REG, too).
However, Kings' Goliath's Spear on Kings' FW is a great combo, which I have
used many times.


Cheers,
Gamer X
 
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