Removing commercials in Adobe Premiere or Ulead

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I'm still a DVDR newbie, having fun but struggling. Any advice would be
appreciated.

I have Adobe Premiere 6.5, and a Ulead suite that includes VideoStudio7 and
Movie Factory.

My question is, how can I efficiently remove selected stretches of video --
commercials, for example -- from the middle of a captured .avi (or a saved
..mpg)?

It seems to me, both programs want you to mark the footage to be saved, and
that neither (as far as I can tell) lets you instead mark footage that you
want to delete. (And that in fact, neither program actually deletes anything
from the .avi or .mpg at that point, but just marks the footage that will be
retained in the project.) The difference is significant, as to the
convenience of finding and setting the In/Out points, when you want to
remove a number of relatively short sections from the middle of the file.

Do I need to get and use a different program to simplify this process? Or am
I missing the way to delete selected sections in either or both of these
programs (preferably without having to re-compress)?

Thanks...

 

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"Ted Kerin" <tf.kerin@gte.net> wrote in message
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>
> I'm still a DVDR newbie, having fun but struggling. Any advice would be
> appreciated.
>
> I have Adobe Premiere 6.5, and a Ulead suite that includes VideoStudio7
and
> Movie Factory.
>
> My question is, how can I efficiently remove selected stretches
> of video -- commercials, for example -- from the middle of a
> captured .avi (or a saved .mpg)?

If Premiere will open it, you can edit it. I don't edit mpg files
or use other apps, so I dunno about those.

> It seems to me, both programs want you to mark the footage
> to be saved, and that neither (as far as I can tell) lets you
> instead mark footage that you want to delete.

What's the difference? You mark the ends of the saved/cut
segments either way.

> (And that in fact, neither program actually deletes anything
> from the .avi or .mpg at that point, but just marks the footage
> that will be retained in the project.)

That is how Premiere (and likely most other NLE apps) work.

> The difference is significant, as to the convenience of finding
> and setting the In/Out points, when you want to remove a
> number of relatively short sections from the middle of the file.

You'll have to explain why you feel this way. I do this frequently
and have no idea what you mean.

> Do I need to get and use a different program to simplify this
> process? Or am I missing the way to delete selected sections

Cut the beginning and end each commercial break. Delete the
(now independent) commercial block using the "Ripple Delete"
function which will pull the ends of the remaining (program)
segments together. MUCH faster do do it than to explain it!
You should be able to identify the appropriate black frame at
the beginning and end of a commercial block, mark them, cut
them, and Ripple Delete in ~15-20 seconds.

> in either or both of these programs (preferably without having
> to re-compress)?

Whether you have to re-compress or not is a function of what
edit software you are using. There are so many variables that
it is difficult to predict how your particular combination will
behave. Best to just try different methods and see which work
best (and fastest) in your situation.

 

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Ted Kerin wrote:

> I'm still a DVDR newbie, having fun but struggling. Any advice would be
> appreciated.
>

> I have Adobe Premiere 6.5,
<snip>

Use the razor. Cut at the beginning of what you want to get rid of and at
the end of what you want to get rid of. Drag the part to be deleted down to
another track... right click on it and choose "clear". Then, either insert
a transition between the parts you kept or just drag them together.

 

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"i'm_tired" <it_isnt_valid@emailaddy.edu> wrote in message
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> Use the razor. .... Drag the part to be deleted down to
> another track... right click on it and choose "clear".
>

Cool trick! Can't wait to get home and try it. Thanks!

 

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> I have Adobe Premiere 6.5, and a Ulead suite that includes
VideoStudio7 and
> Movie Factory.

In Premier, drag the entire program you've captured to the timeline, not
the editing. Then follow the directions at the end of Richard Crowley's
post about the ripple delete and export it in whatever format you want.

 

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"Richard Crowley" <rcrowley7@xprt.net> wrote in message
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> "Ted Kerin" <tf.kerin@gte.net> wrote in message
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> >
> > It seems to me, both programs want you to mark the footage
> > to be saved, and that neither (as far as I can tell) lets you
> > instead mark footage that you want to delete.

>
> What's the difference? You mark the ends of the saved/cut
> segments either way.
>


Thanks for your help and for the information.

What I meant was that, seems to me, it's easier to find the commercial
breaks and mark them In/Out, than to mark the longer sections in-between
(although the end result of either operation is, as you say, the same).
Commercials are one example, but a better example might be when you
encounter little snips of bad footage -- it would be easier to mark and
delete them, as you find them -- than to back up to mark the last part
that's a keeper. But I think the rest of your post, about the ripple delete,
addresses exactly what I had in mind.

I've seen some tutorials about ripple deletes, but need to experiment before
I've got the idea down. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.