Replaced some componenets, faced LONG TS process, mostly fixed, still freezing : ( out of ideas

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Hi. First Post Here. Allow me to explain my issue(s) as I have been troubleshooting this computer a while, and have tried "shotun" replacing many things that seemed to be the issue. Started totally fine, since the day I built it in 2013. decided to make some upgrades.

First was upgrading my Radeon HD 7770 GPU with an RX470. Went Great. So well, I ordered new RAM (32GB Gskill Sniper 2400mhz), AMD FX 9590 cpu w Hyper 212 cooler, and ASRock 970A-G/3.1 mb after finding great deals on them and extensively checking compatibility and prices among that generation of AMD products. Went together fine, and worked without a hitch first time or two that I used it, including gaming on high settings. One time soon after though, it locked up weirdly making a buzz noise from my tv speaker, instantly locking up mid game, forcing me to power off.

When it wasn't posting I started to TS it by checking components one by one in other computers I have. The PSU, RAM, and two SSDs were found to be dead after a nightmarish TSing process. After putting it back together with all new 850W Gold, modular PSU, Corsair Vengeance 4x 8GB 2400Mhz RAM, and a brand new SSD, It booted fine, and ran AMAZINGLY (for what I am used to considering this is all upgraded for me). Except it would have locking up issues giving me error codes like IRQL NOT LESS OR EQUAL or SYSTEM SERVICE EXCEPTION or SYSTEM THREAD EXCEPTION NOT HANDLED and maybe one or two others. Most of these are generally a driver being out of date or corrupt, so first I tried about a dozen different forum's solutions for ensuring drivers are up to date and functioning including dskchk and some third party programs, and windows update. Nothing made any improvement.

During this time it would fail to post about 4/5 times, but function perfectly about 1/5 times. The only other things mentioned for this issue in the forums were a bad PSU and a bad MB. Being the easier thing to check, first I verified my psu was good in another computer, which it was. By TSing the RAM I found two more bad sticks (currently being processed for exchange), AND that DIMM slot 3 in my MB was dead (verified it was the port and RAM using an older computer and other RAM) so I pulled that RAM out, and stayed away from DIMM slot 3.

The booting improved to POSTing about 50% of the time, and the freezing remained the same. Tried reinstalling windows, and a new drive, both with new ISOs on new thumb drives, and each with no improvement. Then I switched the motherboard out (to MSI 990FXA Gaming) like the forums suggested next. Boot/POST success rate is now 100% of the last 8 or 10 boots since I've reached this stage in the process, but two hard lockups already; so the freezing issue is still happening. One while playing Arma 3 and one while in Ark. Both about 15-20 minutes in.

This freezing seems to be my only current issue, and I'm trying not to game until this is demonstrably resolved. There are no error codes or BSOD any more but when it "works" a little bit it locks up before too long. Is it possible I need to increase voltage on RAM or CPU? Is there any way to test that? Temps are extremely good on this rig so it's not a temp issue. Any new ideas are welcome at this point as I am nearing my wit's end. Thanks for any help.
Dave G

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Sohom
ok, so my suggestion will be to change the processor or send the processor for RMA. Something is very wrong with the processor you have....
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ok, first send your motherboard and your new ram sticks for RMA, even if it doesnt show error but there is a possibility that those ram sticks may be faulty. Let corsair check them out for you. Next, download hdtune and check your hard disks for any smart related error. Then download prime95 and do a stress testing on the processor, if there are any errors, then its likely your cpu is faulty.
Third, If you want to check your new motherboard and new ram, then connect a motherboard speaker if you have one, connect it to the new motherboard and then try to post, record the beep sounds and post it back here.
And oh pls dont increase any voltages at this moment, keep them at stock settings.
Provide me the results and i will try to help further.
 
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All settings are stock on this configuration and always have been. I mentioned voltage as some other forum regarding a similar issue was resolved because someone's CPU was underpowered, which I guess is common for 220w CPUs. Would it be wise to exchange for a similar one, or perhaps another AM3+? I like the 9590 because it's the best that works on my generation of components on an AMD build.
 
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If possible, i will suggest you to return the components to the seller and in exchange purchase a ryzen 5 1600x with a good motherboard (doesnt have to be fancy).
But i will ask you to stay away from 9590 because it has pretty bad reviews, and opt for 83XX series processors as overclocking the 9590 makes it a little unstable as it tends to heat a lot and so it throttles.

I will personally suggest u the ryzen 5 1600x, it checks all the good points.
 
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I wish I had the funds to do a ryzen/ ddr4 build, but I don't at the moment. Trying to get all I can out of bulldozer, but It seems 83xx really is the cream of the bulldozer crop. Thanks for all your input Sohom, hoping this is the (last) magic bullet I'll need for a while! I will let know how a CPU switch goes in a day or two.
 
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In the meantime I have brought the clock speed of my 9590 from 4.7Ghz (factory) to 4.2Ghz,and disabled the turbo, just to see how it goes. So far so good but it's only been a few minutes and I'm not about to try anything too demanding quite yet. Any chance factory clock might have just been too high?
 
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Ran successfully 1st try. CPU was in top 68% single core (good), top 84% multicore
GPU was 76.1% (very good)
SSD was top 80%
RAM was only top 45, but there is another 16 GB coming doubling that soon. Still operating well it seems with turbo off at 4.7Ghz
 
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ok, it seems the results are all good, i hope the turbo was off. Now run prime95 for 10 minutes but do keep a check on temperature using HWINFO. If any error happens, keep a log of the error. If no error happens , then it was because of turbo enabled.
 
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Thanks, I will exchange the cpu for an 83xx I think. That was my last cpu and still functions perfectly to this day, but for a new owner. I will let you know if trying a new cpu fixes though. Thanks for all your time and input so far.
 
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:) Glad that i could be of any help. Hope the CPU change fixes things. The 8 series cpu's are quite stable and performs good.

Or you can try one more time by exchanging the processor for a new 9590 as from your words, u really like the processor.
 
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Yes, thank you very much for your insight. It seems the 9590 was also faulty and/ or damaged from the old PSU. 8350 did the trick excellently. Probably stick with it, until ready for a ryzen build.
 
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