Question Replacement for Asus P8Z77-pro

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The time has come, really don’t want to. But my gaming machine needs to upgrade. I would like to stay with ASUS because of the AI overclocking software that I like.

What Asus board is the go to board for replacement of the popular p8z77? Upgrading because I’m making the move to the next gen CPU. Currently running a i5 3750 at 4.1, moving to a i9, or i7.
 
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Well that depends. The Asus ROG E/F are quite popular, more so than the Prime series which is more like the p8's. And that's if you stay with Intel.

For the more budget conscious, the MSI Tomahawk has had serious success with the Ryzen cpus, more cores, more threads, less money. And for many, this means a better gpu.

As to that, what are your goals there? New monitor, new gpu? 1080p/60, 1440p/144, 4k?

Budget?
 
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I am using 3570s @3.8GHZ (4 cores). i5-3570 can work @4.0GHZ(4 cores)

The next gen comes in july. Asus's motherboard is still very good, but the low-end motherboard should not choose Asustek's, the material is not good. You have 4 month to choose mobo.
 

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Well that depends. The Asus ROG E/F are quite popular, more so than the Prime series which is more like the p8's. And that's if you stay with Intel.

For the more budget conscious, the MSI Tomahawk has had serious success with the Ryzen cpus, more cores, more threads, less money. And for many, this means a better gpu.

As to that, what are your goals there? New monitor, new gpu? 1080p/60, 1440p/144, 4k?

Budget?
Complete rebuild, new GPU, cpu, mobo, ram. 1080/60, same monitor. With the possibility of going 1440, and new monitor in the future. Budget is smart but open. Not interested in 4K. With the lastest games, anthem and the division 2 ,I believe my cpu is bottlenecking, and creating a lag effect. Running a i5 3570 oced to 4.1, GeForce msi 970 4g, 16 gigs of ram. Maybe I’m wrong....Perhaps maybe just a gpu upgrade?
 
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I am using 3570s @3.8GHZ (4 cores). i5-3570 can work @4.0GHZ(4 cores)

The next gen comes in july. Asus's motherboard is still very good, but the low-end motherboard should not choose Asustek's, the material is not good. You have 4 month to choose mobo.
Just clearifying, you saying to wait till July for the next gen motherboard? I was looking/ considering the ASUS ROG Maximus XI Hero recently
 

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The Hero is a very nice board, but unless you are somewhat serious about OC, much of its usefulness is wasted. Kinda like buying a Ferrari when all the speed limits are 55mph.

Most of what's killin you is the cpu. Not because it's 3rd gen, I have a 3770k /970 1080p that handles anything I throw at it. Some is also the gpu. It's an old gen i5. That's 4 cores, 4 threads. And you are running into games optimized for 8 threads and built on platforms using higher IPC (instructions per clock). So while max fps is somewhat lower because of lower IPC, there's also a queue of backlogged data that's getting prioritized by necessity. Gta V came out a couple years ago and even it's minimum is a 4c4t cpu. Recommended 4c8t or better.

Then there's the gpu, 3.5Gb of high speed ram, 500Mb of slow speed ram. If you happen to hit that magic number, it's not exactly beneficial to fps.

Intel just dropped its 9th gen. It'll be a minute before more drops. (10th gen IceLake due maybe by last ¼ 2019).In a few months Ryzen 2 will drop and from leaks so far, it's extremely promising and might actually take the crown from Intel. For a minute. Will be especially good if Zen 2 follows AMD's current pricing policy. Promises to be interesting at least.

This would be me if buying today.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Dark Rock 4 CPU Cooler ($69.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard ($128.90 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($134.85 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB XC ULTRA GAMING Video Card ($309.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C White TG ATX Mid Tower Case ($88.98 @ Newegg Business)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1147.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-05 20:56 EST-0500
 
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bond16th

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The Hero is a very nice board, but unless you are somewhat serious about OC, much of its usefulness is wasted. Kinda like buying a Ferrari when all the speed limits are 55mph.

Most of what's killin you is the cpu. Not because it's 3rd gen, I have a 3770k /970 1080p that handles anything I throw at it. Some is also the gpu. It's an old gen i5. That's 4 cores, 4 threads. And you are running into games optimized for 8 threads and built on platforms using higher IPC (instructions per clock). So while max fps is somewhat lower because of lower IPC, there's also a queue of backlogged data that's getting prioritized by necessity. Gta V came out a couple years ago and even it's minimum is a 4c4t cpu. Recommended 4c8t or better.

Then there's the gpu, 3.5Gb of high speed ram, 500Mb of slow speed ram. If you happen to hit that magic number, it's not exactly beneficial to fps.

Intel just dropped its 9th gen. It'll be a minute before more drops. (10th gen IceLake due maybe by last ¼ 2019).In a few months Ryzen 2 will drop and from leaks so far, it's extremely promising and might actually take the crown from Intel. For a minute. Will be especially good if Zen 2 follows AMD's current pricing policy. Promises to be interesting at least.

This would be me if buying today.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Dark Rock 4 CPU Cooler ($69.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard ($128.90 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($134.85 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB XC ULTRA GAMING Video Card ($309.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C White TG ATX Mid Tower Case ($88.98 @ Newegg Business)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1147.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-05 20:56 EST-0500
Thanks for the reply, a lot of info there that will be helpful to me as I plan my build. If you decides to stay intel for the cpu, what asus main board would you choose.

Again, thanks for your time and reply