[SOLVED] Replacement graphic card for Nvidia 970

Jan 27, 2020
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Hey fellas,

I'm in a bit of a pickle these days. My loyal Nvidia 970 graphic card is on its last legs.
I was thinking of buying Radeon 5700 or 5700 XT since Nvidia is stupidly expensive in my country.
According to the Bottlenecking Chart Rev 2.0, I shouldn't have any issues with my CPU, intel i7 4790k.
So what do you think, 5700 or 5700 XT?

Thank you,
 
My opinion is that the "bottlenecking" apps are junk science.
They do not consider the types of games you might play.

Some games are graphics limited like fast action shooters.
Others are cpu core speed limited like strategy, sims, and mmo.
Multiplayer tends to like many threads.

To see if you can usefully use a stronger graphics card, run this simple test:
Run YOUR games, but lower your resolution and eye candy.
If your FPS increases, it indicates that your cpu is strong enough to drive a better graphics configuration.
If your FPS stays the same, you are likely more cpu limited.

Your GTX970 is somewhat comparable to today's GTX1060 or RX570.
When you change out a graphics card, try to get a big jump in performance.
Otherwise you may be disappointed if you do not see magical results.

A general guide to graphics performance can be seen in tom's gpu hierarchy chart:

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

If your psu is questionable, pay attention to the power requirements.
PSU wattage does not tell all, psu quality counts.
 
My opinion is that the "bottlenecking" apps are junk science.
They do not consider the types of games you might play.

Some games are graphics limited like fast action shooters.
Others are cpu core speed limited like strategy, sims, and mmo.
Multiplayer tends to like many threads.

To see if you can usefully use a stronger graphics card, run this simple test:
Run YOUR games, but lower your resolution and eye candy.
If your FPS increases, it indicates that your cpu is strong enough to drive a better graphics configuration.
If your FPS stays the same, you are likely more cpu limited.

Your GTX970 is somewhat comparable to today's GTX1060 or RX570.
When you change out a graphics card, try to get a big jump in performance.
Otherwise you may be disappointed if you do not see magical results.

A general guide to graphics performance can be seen in tom's gpu hierarchy chart:

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

If your psu is questionable, pay attention to the power requirements.
PSU wattage does not tell all, psu quality counts.
 
Also, this is very important:

IGNORE BOTTLENECKING SITES.

They are complete garbage, and their information is WORSE than useless.

If you change your GPU to a more powerful one, making no other changes, it is IMPOSSIBLE for "bottlenecking" to cause any sort of decrease in performance.

Same if you change just the CPU to a more powerful one and nothing else.

If anyone tells you to check a bottlenecking site, ignore their advice.


It's all a matter of the monitor specs, as @tennis2 indicated - as well as what specific games you play.
 
Jan 27, 2020
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Thanks for the responses fellas.
I did the testing of games like Geofalt said, and my FPS indeed increases when lowering the resolution and eye candy.
I do mostly play strategy and RPG games. Occasional FPS as well.
Looking at the GPU Hierarchy post, 5700XT is the best value for me atm.
I found this one https://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-11293-01-20G-Radeon-Backplate-Graphics/dp/B07WC7683C/ref=sr_1_2?crid=2GIT5FN3Z0H77&keywords=sapphire+5700+xt&qid=1580341606&sprefix=sapphire+5700,aps,250&sr=8-2
for 430 euros, which is a really good deal compared to Nvidia 2070 super. The lowest price I could find for2070 super in my country is 700 euros...
 
Jan 27, 2020
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Sounds good.

I've got another question, I have MSI B85M-E45 motherboard.
I would like to buy Radeon 5700 XT sapphire nitro+.
The point is, this sapphire card is a bit bigger than my Gigabyte Windforce Nvidia 970. I'm concerned if it would fit on this motherboard.
Radeon 5700 XT sapphire nitro+ dimensions = 309mm x 135mm x 49mm
Gigabyte Windforce Nvidia 970 dimensions = 297mm x 108mm x 35mm

Thanks!
 

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