[SOLVED] Replacing ati 5770 hd

[invalidpartitiontable]

Hi my radeon hd 5770 appears to no longer function, my comp was crashing using it. After taking it out for a couple days while I reinstalled windows it now no longer gets recognized by either of my pcs or gives any output. The fan still runs though.

I have swapped the graphics card from the other pc and it works in both, although it requires no power hookup.

It seems to me that either the power leads on both pcs are insufficient or dead independently or the card is. Maybe you can suggest something else.

I may just buy a replacement card at this point, buying the same model on amazon appears to be 100 dollars now.

If I can't get it to work relatively easily I'm going to buy a replacement or upgrade in the next couple days.

Here is the forum's suggested template:

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: this week
BUDGET RANGE: Not replacing other parts so whatever they can handle is the range

USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: its an old gaming computer

CURRENT GPU AND POWER SUPPLY: Non-functional ati radeon 5770. I don't remember the make of the PSU, it says cRUus and another logo says tuv sud. It says max output is 581.6 W.

OTHER RELEVANT SYSTEM SPECS: CPU is an amd phenom II x6 1090T, ASUSTeK m4a785T-M(not sure whats relevant for mobo), 8gb ram according to "cpu-z"

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S):
I had a bad experience with newegg last time, I'd prefer Amazon, but I'd try any really.
COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: Toronto, Canada.

 

[j3ster]

Have you ever considered to fully upgrade your pc to a more modern one?
if you can give a budget maybe I or anyone here could help you.
but regarding your question.

these are probably your best options

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/X78j4D/gigabyte-geforce-gt-1030-2gb-video-card-gv-n1030oc-2gi

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product...c-video-card-geforce-gtx-1650-ventus-xs-4g-oc

any of these would be a good replacement, but the GT 1030 would be ideal if budget is tight and is a significant upgrade to your previous gpu.

 

[invalidpartitiontable]

Have you ever considered to fully upgrade your pc to a more modern one?
if you can give a budget maybe I or anyone here could help you.
but regarding your question.

these are probably your best options

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/X78j4D/gigabyte-geforce-gt-1030-2gb-video-card-gv-n1030oc-2gi

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product...c-video-card-geforce-gtx-1650-ventus-xs-4g-oc

any of these would be a good replacement, but the GT 1030 would be ideal if budget is tight and is a significant upgrade to your previous gpu.

Thanks

 

[invalidpartitiontable]

According to some reviews the rx 570 is better and cheaper, can my system run it?

 

[j3ster]

According to some reviews the rx 570 is better and cheaper, can my system run it?

i was gonna say the RX 570. but you would need a better powersupply and id also think that even the 1650 would bottleneck your current CPU which in turn offer no real benefit over the GT 1030.
but i left the 1650 there as a recommendation since it doesnt require a power connector to be able to run.

 

[invalidpartitiontable]

I was looking around a little and there are 6 pin model 470s, I have a 6 pin slot right now.

I read the PSU a little wrong, it tallies the output at 600 w total. Some other sites seem to suggest this would be enough.

So if my CPU is the limit which one is enough?

 

[j3ster]

I was looking around a little and there are 6 pin model 470s, I have a 6 pin slot right now.

I read the PSU a little wrong, it tallies the output at 600 w total. Some other sites seem to suggest this would be enough.

So if my CPU is the limit which one is enough?

Your cpu is a limiting factor im fairly certain you wont see much gains from the GT 1030 to RX 570 or GTX 1650.
but lets assume a scenario where your cpu isnt a limiting factor,
I dont know which brand of PSU you have, the RX 570 might be a lower end card but it still does consume a lot for its level. you might make it work but i dont know how safe it would be and im inclined to recommend it to you as a result.

so you can go for the GT 1030 which is still a significant upgrade over the HD 5770.

but you might want to consider a full upgrade maybe? heres an example of what a potential not so expensive upgrade. minus the storage drives sice you can use the ones you have atm with this build.


PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor ($107.48 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 580 8 GB PULSE Video Card ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks P300 ATX Mid Tower Case ($60.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $608.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

 

[King_V]

Wait, those look like US prices...

 

[King_V]

I was looking around a little and there are 6 pin model 470s, I have a 6 pin slot right now.

I read the PSU a little wrong, it tallies the output at 600 w total. Some other sites seem to suggest this would be enough.

So if my CPU is the limit which one is enough?

Knowing the exact brand and model of the PSU would be helpful. There are bulletproof power-supplies out there, and there are also ones that, regardless of their stated power output or efficiency, are dumpster fires.

Also: What is your monitor's resolution and refresh rate? And does it have GSync, FreeSync, or neither? This might help determine what a good GPU is to match.

 

[j3ster]

Wait, those look like US prices...

oh i didnt notice it and i was just showing how much it would cost them an upgrade to a better overall pc.

 

[King_V]

Yeah, @invalidpartitiontable is in Toronto.

I started looking at the prices in Canada, and while I know that CAD$1 is approximately USD$0.75 currently, the prices I saw still made me cry.

 

[invalidpartitiontable]

Yea our exchange rate is pretty ass right now, as usual.

I realized I've been mixing up the rx 470 and 570 in this thread. So when it says on one site that the 470 is rated at 120w and another site lists it as drawing 275 w under load, i assume the second one is what matters?

I just have a decent mid to low tier benq widescreen flat monitor, regular poling rate 65 hrz I think?

According to google my old 5770 took 108 w, assuming that is what it was rated for and not its max under load that only puts it at 12 w lower than a 470. Even if that is doubled at max load its only 25 w more than what I was already running correct?

I understand there is a huge range of PSU quality, I bought a crap one that died within a year or two. The one I have now is the replacement for that and its a few years old now.

I believe that after wasting money on that cheap model I either bought one bigger or higher quality, maybe both.

Thanks for helping me weigh my options and think things over. Assuming I am right about how small an increase in wattage over my old card, I think I will try the 470. If it turns out to be a mistake I'll come back and say so for posterity lol.

edit I looked around online a bit and can't see a new 470 for sale but I can see plenty of gt 1030. Thinking more on what you said, its probably a waste to spend more money on something my CPU os going to limit anyway.

A gt 1030 is double the memory of my old card and should be a noticable upgrade, its easy to find new and about 2/3rd the price of the 470. I'm just going to try your recommendation, thanks.

 

[King_V]

Yea our exchange rate is pretty ass right now, as usual.

I realized I've been mixing up the rx 470 and 570 in this thread. So when it says on one site that the 470 is rated at 120w and another site lists it as drawing 275 w under load, i assume the second one is what matters?

That 275w sounds completely wrong. There's no way that a GPU can even peak (which are brief spikes in usage) at more than 2x their rated power.

The standard RX 470 is a 120W card. The standard RX 570 is a 150W card. Board partners do some overclocking, which pushes the draw up a little bit.

I just have a decent mid to low tier benq widescreen flat monitor, regular poling rate 65 hrz I think?

What's the resolution? If you're talking 1920x1080, the RX 570 will do reasonably well, the RX 470 a little less so. If you're less than 1920x1080, say, for example, 1600x900, or 1280x768, etc, then both cards should handle it fine.

I don't think the RX 470 is available anymore, though, except on the used market.

I understand there is a huge range of PSU quality, I bought a crap one that died within a year or two. The one I have now is the replacement for that and its a few years old now.

I believe that after wasting money on that cheap model I either bought one bigger or higher quality, maybe both.

Still a good idea to let us know the details- so you'll be able to know if you need to save up for a better one.

 

[j3ster]

Yea our exchange rate is pretty ass right now, as usual.

I realized I've been mixing up the rx 470 and 570 in this thread. So when it says on one site that the 470 is rated at 120w and another site lists it as drawing 275 w under load, i assume the second one is what matters?

I just have a decent mid to low tier benq widescreen flat monitor, regular poling rate 65 hrz I think?

According to google my old 5770 took 108 w, assuming that is what it was rated for and not its max under load that only puts it at 12 w lower than a 470. Even if that is doubled at max load its only 25 w more than what I was already running correct?

I understand there is a huge range of PSU quality, I bought a crap one that died within a year or two. The one I have now is the replacement for that and its a few years old now.

I believe that after wasting money on that cheap model I either bought one bigger or higher quality, maybe both.

Thanks for helping me weigh my options and think things over. Assuming I am right about how small an increase in wattage over my old card, I think I will try the 470. If it turns out to be a mistake I'll come back and say so for posterity lol.

edit I looked around online a bit and can't see a new 470 for sale but I can see plenty of gt 1030. Thinking more on what you said, its probably a waste to spend more money on something my CPU os going to limit anyway.

A gt 1030 is double the memory of my old card and should be a noticable upgrade, its easy to find new and about 2/3rd the price of the 470. I'm just going to try your recommendation, thanks.

as king_v mentioned it would be difficult to find a RX 470 brand new, so you might want to find it in the used market which i dont recommend, but the GT 1030 should do you good and if your HD 5770 was still doing its job you'll find the GT 1030 should do it better, it would last you till your next significant upgrade.
you do really need a new CPU to use much of a modern GPU might as well save up for that, rather than spending it on a 470/570 or 1650 which you cant use to its maximum.

 

[King_V]

as king_v mentioned it would be difficult to find a RX 470 brand new, so you might want to find it in the used market which i dont recommend, but the GT 1030 should do you good and if your HD 5770 was still doing its job you'll find the GT 1030 should do it better, it would last you till your next significant upgrade.
you do really need a new CPU to use much of a modern GPU might as well save up for that, rather than spending it on a 470/570 or 1650 which you cant use to its maximum.

Generally I agree - though I find it then to be a conundrum.

Get the GT 1030 now, then save up to a better CPU/MB/RAM, but when you do get the new CPU/MB/RAM, then the RX470/570 would be a better fit, but now you're down the money that was used on the GT 1030

OR

Get the RX470/570 (skip the 1650, it's price competitive with the 570, but NOT performance-competitive) now, which will definitely improve your gaming experience, BUT, then it will take longer to save up for a new CPU/MB/RAM (as the RX 570 costs more than the GT 1030)

Therein lies the conundrum. I guess it depends on, when you get whichever new component (GPU, or CPU/MB/RAM combo), how long would you be waiting until you would be able to get the other component?

 

[j3ster]

Generally I agree - though I find it then to be a conundrum.

Get the GT 1030 now, then save up to a better CPU/MB/RAM, but when you do get the new CPU/MB/RAM, then the RX470/570 would be a better fit, but now you're down the money that was used on the GT 1030

OR

Get the RX470/570 (skip the 1650, it's price competitive with the 570, but NOT performance-competitive) now, which will definitely improve your gaming experience, BUT, then it will take longer to save up for a new CPU/MB/RAM (as the RX 570 costs more than the GT 1030)

Therein lies the conundrum. I guess it depends on, when you get whichever new component (GPU, or CPU/MB/RAM combo), how long would you be waiting until you would be able to get the other component?

GT 1030 is rather cheap, the OP could just get that and save up for a general overhaul of their current system.
even if they do get the RX 470/570 it would be a bad pair with what ever modern upgrade path the OP would chose. its most likely by the time the OP saved up for a new system they could probably afford a RX 580 or above at that moment which is more ideal no to mention newer GPUs might be available.

so bottom-line is they should just get the GT 1030 (which as ive said is still a significant upgrade over the HD 5770) and just save up atleast $500 at that moment they could even get the RX 580.