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Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

After replacing, under warranty, a Western Digital hard drive that I added
to my system on my own, my Dimension 4500 is much quieter. Now I'm turning
my attention to the CPU fan, which drones.

I read in the Dell Community Forums that Dell's CPU fan has a proprietary
connector which includes an RPM sensor - the famous white wire. Without the
proprietary connector, the BIOS does not recognize the fan and you get an
error on boot. Third-party fans without the connector work great (and
quietly!) and, according to recent posters, the computer works just fine.
But you won't be alerted if the CPU fan is dying.

What's your take on this: Can I only replace my CPU fan with another one
from Dell? Are there third-party fans that are compatible with Dell
motherboards? (With so many Dells out there, you want to think there are.)

Rocky
 
Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

"Rocket J. Squirrel" <rocky@bullwinkle.com> wrote in message
news:4c45bb3e1a6100c606e04c25d73b1271@news.teranews.com...
> After replacing, under warranty, a Western Digital hard drive that I added
> to my system on my own, my Dimension 4500 is much quieter. Now I'm turning
> my attention to the CPU fan, which drones.
>
> I read in the Dell Community Forums that Dell's CPU fan has a proprietary
> connector which includes an RPM sensor - the famous white wire. Without
> the
> proprietary connector, the BIOS does not recognize the fan and you get an
> error on boot. Third-party fans without the connector work great (and
> quietly!) and, according to recent posters, the computer works just fine.
> But you won't be alerted if the CPU fan is dying.
>
> What's your take on this: Can I only replace my CPU fan with another one
> from Dell? Are there third-party fans that are compatible with Dell
> motherboards? (With so many Dells out there, you want to think there are.)
>
> Rocky
>
>

Rocky,

I've probably read hundreds of posts over the years asking about fully
compatible replacement fans (that would eliminate the 'CPU0 fan failure' or
'previous fan failure' message that appears pre-POST after the Dell splash.

I have yet to read of such a fan, and I would think once found, word of any
such fan would've spread through the user groups.


Stew
 
Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

<Sigh> I was afraid of that. Thanks, Stew.

Rocky

"S.Lewis" <stew1960@mail.com> wrote in message
news:rouoc.1819$U4.1184@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
>
> "Rocket J. Squirrel" <rocky@bullwinkle.com> wrote in message
> news:4c45bb3e1a6100c606e04c25d73b1271@news.teranews.com...
> > After replacing, under warranty, a Western Digital hard drive that I
added
> > to my system on my own, my Dimension 4500 is much quieter. Now I'm
turning
> > my attention to the CPU fan, which drones.
> >
> > I read in the Dell Community Forums that Dell's CPU fan has a
proprietary
> > connector which includes an RPM sensor - the famous white wire. Without
> > the
> > proprietary connector, the BIOS does not recognize the fan and you get
an
> > error on boot. Third-party fans without the connector work great (and
> > quietly!) and, according to recent posters, the computer works just
fine.
> > But you won't be alerted if the CPU fan is dying.
> >
> > What's your take on this: Can I only replace my CPU fan with another one
> > from Dell? Are there third-party fans that are compatible with Dell
> > motherboards? (With so many Dells out there, you want to think there
are.)
> >
> > Rocky
> >
> >
>
> Rocky,
>
> I've probably read hundreds of posts over the years asking about fully
> compatible replacement fans (that would eliminate the 'CPU0 fan failure'
or
> 'previous fan failure' message that appears pre-POST after the Dell
splash.
>
> I have yet to read of such a fan, and I would think once found, word of
any
> such fan would've spread through the user groups.
>
>
> Stew
>
>
 
Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

>"S.Lewis" stew1960@mail.com

>I've probably read hundreds of posts over the years asking about fully
>compatible replacement fans (that would eliminate the 'CPU0 fan failure' or
>'previous fan failure' message that appears pre-POST after the Dell splash.

>I have yet to read of such a fan, and I would think once found, word of any
>such fan would've spread through the user groups.

Does Dell have a patent on an rpm sensor within a CPU fan? Otherwise, you would
think somebody would market a third party CPU fan.

--
"When you argue with a fool be sure he is not similarly occupied."

See how the pros get their power!
http://www.powrwrap.com/press.htm
 
Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

That's just the point: With so many Dell computers in existence, we (Stew, I
and countless others) don't understand why a compatible CPU fan is not
available. It's not rocket science.

Rocky

"Alan S. Wales" <powrwrap@aol.compost> wrote in message
news:20040513153714.25678.00001466@mb-m07.aol.com...
> >"S.Lewis" stew1960@mail.com
>
> >I've probably read hundreds of posts over the years asking about fully
> >compatible replacement fans (that would eliminate the 'CPU0 fan failure'
or
> >'previous fan failure' message that appears pre-POST after the Dell
splash.
>
> >I have yet to read of such a fan, and I would think once found, word of
any
> >such fan would've spread through the user groups.
>
> Does Dell have a patent on an rpm sensor within a CPU fan? Otherwise, you
would
> think somebody would market a third party CPU fan.
>
> --
> "When you argue with a fool be sure he is not similarly occupied."
>
> See how the pros get their power!
> http://www.powrwrap.com/press.htm
>
>
 
Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

"Rocket J. Squirrel" <rocky@bullwinkle.com> wrote in message
news:b1dc89922061bb1e7a395242ed3ced45@news.teranews.com...
> That's just the point: With so many Dell computers in existence, we (Stew,
> I
> and countless others) don't understand why a compatible CPU fan is not
> available. It's not rocket science.
>
> Rocky
>


<snip>

There's got to be a fan out there. Thing is, you'd likely need to
reconfigure the whole darned (dell) housing, as the grommets/bushings upon
which the original fan ride are a nightmare to remove and replace. Or it
would have to mount on the dell passive heatsink or come with it's own
compatible (active) heatsink.

Not unlike powerleap or even the guy selling hard drive brackets for the
Dim2400, if someone would just find and market a third party fan and housing
that would work fully and quietly, he'd sell, well, a million of 'em.


Stew
 
Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

In article <4c45bb3e1a6100c606e04c25d73b1271@news.teranews.com>,
rocky@bullwinkle.com says...
> After replacing, under warranty, a Western Digital hard drive that I added
> to my system on my own, my Dimension 4500 is much quieter. Now I'm turning
> my attention to the CPU fan, which drones.
>
> I read in the Dell Community Forums that Dell's CPU fan has a proprietary
> connector which includes an RPM sensor - the famous white wire. Without the
> proprietary connector, the BIOS does not recognize the fan and you get an
> error on boot. Third-party fans without the connector work great (and
> quietly!) and, according to recent posters, the computer works just fine.
> But you won't be alerted if the CPU fan is dying.
>
> What's your take on this: Can I only replace my CPU fan with another one
> from Dell? Are there third-party fans that are compatible with Dell
> motherboards? (With so many Dells out there, you want to think there are.)
>
> Rocky
>
>
>
Just hit f1 and go on with your life IN QUIET

Since it is true that you wont know if the fan really fails, get a good
quality one and just reach your hand to the back of the computer every
few days to make sure it's turning.

Works fine for me.

Louise
 
Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

Oh yes, I've thought about that! It goes against my grain, but it's
tempting.

Rocky

"Louise" <none@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b0e047d701e3e599896b9@news.newsguy.com...
> In article <4c45bb3e1a6100c606e04c25d73b1271@news.teranews.com>,
> rocky@bullwinkle.com says...
> > After replacing, under warranty, a Western Digital hard drive that I
added
> > to my system on my own, my Dimension 4500 is much quieter. Now I'm
turning
> > my attention to the CPU fan, which drones.
> >
> > I read in the Dell Community Forums that Dell's CPU fan has a
proprietary
> > connector which includes an RPM sensor - the famous white wire. Without
the
> > proprietary connector, the BIOS does not recognize the fan and you get
an
> > error on boot. Third-party fans without the connector work great (and
> > quietly!) and, according to recent posters, the computer works just
fine.
> > But you won't be alerted if the CPU fan is dying.
> >
> > What's your take on this: Can I only replace my CPU fan with another one
> > from Dell? Are there third-party fans that are compatible with Dell
> > motherboards? (With so many Dells out there, you want to think there
are.)
> >
> > Rocky
> >
> >
> >
> Just hit f1 and go on with your life IN QUIET
>
> Since it is true that you wont know if the fan really fails, get a good
> quality one and just reach your hand to the back of the computer every
> few days to make sure it's turning.
>
> Works fine for me.
>
> Louise
 
Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

"Rocket J. Squirrel" <rocky@bullwinkle.com> wrote:

>"Louise" <none@nospam.com> wrote

>> Just hit f1 and go on with your life IN QUIET
>>
>> Since it is true that you wont know if the fan really fails, get a good
>> quality one and just reach your hand to the back of the computer every
>> few days to make sure it's turning.
>>
>> Works fine for me.

>Oh yes, I've thought about that! It goes against my grain, but it's
>tempting.

My old boss, the retired electrical engineer cum R/M/A & QA
expert chose a more sophisticated solution than Louise's.

He taped leetle strips of paper to the fan housings, so they'd
blow when the fan was operating.

Of course, in his home office arrangement, he can see the backs
of his computers when sitting at the keyboard/monitor.
--
OJ III
[Email sent to Yahoo address is burned before reading.
Lower and crunch the sig and you'll net me at comcast.]
 
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