[SOLVED] Replacing GPU

[simmyx]

I have an integrated GPU at the moment, is it possible to change it or not ?

 

[AdineX2]

I have an integrated GPU at the moment, is it possible to change it or not ?

Yes, it it possible

 

[daPain58]

I have an integrated GPU at the moment, is it possible to change it or not ?

It is possible to change GPU not the integrated GPU

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[SkyNetRising]

It is possible to change integrated GPU also.
On modern systems iGPU is integrated into CPU. So - to change iGPU, you'd have to change CPU.
On desktop computers it makes more sense to add discrete GPU than changing CPU to change iGPU.

If CPU is soldered onto motherboard, then no - neither CPU nor iGPU can be changed
(without appropriate bga chip soldering equipment and knowledge/skills, how to do that).

 

[simmyx]

So if I want to upgrade I just slot it into the PCIexpress slot ?

 

[Solidjake]

You would also need a good power supply for the new GPU as well since the system will require more power. Do not cheap out on the PSU

 

[simmyx]

You would also need a good power supply for the new GPU as well since the system will require more power. Do not cheap out on the PSU

Got 500w at the moment, I wouldn't be looking for anything high end. I currently have AMD Radeon RX Vega 11 GPU

 

[j3ster]

If you place in a discrete GPU into your PCI-E and you plug your monitor thru the discrete graphics card then you will use the discrete GPU rather than the iGPU.

what is your full system spec at the moment?
down to make and exact model of your PSU and whats your budget for a GPU upgrade.

 

[simmyx]

If you place in a discrete GPU into your PCI-E and you plug your monitor thru the discrete graphics card then you will use the discrete GPU rather than the iGPU.

what is your full system spec at the moment?
down to make and exact model of your PSU and whats your budget for a GPU upgrade.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2400G CPU with Radeon Vega RX Graphics
Motherboard: Gigabyte A320 M-H
Ram: 2 x 8GB of HyperX Fury DDR4
SSD/HDD: SSD 120GB, HDD 1TB
GPU: Radeon Vega RX Graphics
PSU: Cooler Master MasterWatt Lite 500W 80 Plus
Chassis: Fractal Design
OS: Linux Ubuntu 64Bit

Budget of £100 / $122

 

[j3ster]

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2400G CPU with Radeon Vega RX Graphics
Motherboard: Gigabyte A320 M-H
Ram: 2 x 8GB of HyperX Fury DDR4
SSD/HDD: SSD 120GB, HDD 1TB
GPU: Radeon Vega RX Graphics
PSU: Cooler Master MasterWatt Lite 500W 80 Plus
Chassis: Fractal Design
OS: Linux Ubuntu 64Bit

Budget of £100 / $122

the best choice would be a RX 570 or RX 560 (1024), the RX 570 requiring a power connection while the RX 560 (1024) is just a plug and play.
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product...b-strix-video-card-rog-strix-rx560-o4g-gaming
if you manage to find a RX 570 for about £100 you could also get that but this should do.

you could also just save up for more and get a RX 580 (8GB). your iGPU should still hold up to low-medium settings at 1080p and on esports games it should be fine. since the RX 580 is a much significant upgrade.

your PSU isnt great but doable in your situation I wouldnt use that in a future upgrade though.

 

[simmyx]

Awesome thanks.
I can play 4K files and 1080p stuff no problem. along with CS GO.

If I want to upgrade in future i'll take your advice, thanks

 

[geofelt]

Some games are graphics limited like fast action shooters.
Others are cpu core speed limited like strategy, sims, and mmo.
Multiplayer tends to like many threads.

You need to find out which.
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To help clarify your CPU/GPU options, run this test:

Run YOUR games, but lower your resolution and eye candy.
If your FPS increases, it indicates that your cpu is strong enough to drive a better graphics configuration.
If your FPS stays the same, you are likely more cpu limited.
CSGO seems to be one of the more cpu dependent games.

Your psu is of questionable quality and may not be able to deliver the advertised 500w.
Tier 6, I think on this list:

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That will limit your choice of graphics card upgrades.
Here is a handy chart of psu requirements for graphics cards:

PSU Tier List [OLD]

Credit to @Starelementpokeand @Energycore for helping out with this long-awaited refresh of the old PSU tier list by Aniallation (who previously went several months without logging in), leaving the old list in need of help. This is simply an update of the list that was flawed in creation by the P...

linustechtips.com

The RX cards are cheap, but power hungry.
You might be cautious and buy a card that needs no more than 75w.
Here is a list with performance rankings:
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

For reference, your vega11 is about the same capability as the GT1030 on the list.

 

[simmyx]

the best choice would be a RX 570 or RX 560 (1024), the RX 570 requiring a power connection while the RX 560 (1024) is just a plug and play.
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product...b-strix-video-card-rog-strix-rx560-o4g-gaming

They look huge,not sure they would fit in my case, my case is a big ATX not sure if it's full sized or not though ? What are the measurments for a full sized ATX ?

Also what are the specs for the "Radeon Vega RX Graphics 11 " so I can compare it to other ones ?
I'd rather not get one thats so big, but that is an upgrade if you know what I mean

 

[geofelt]

One way is to look at the passmark numbers for the "Radeon Vega RX Graphics 11 " or any other card.
https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Radeon+RX+Vega+11&id=3893
It shows 2279.

For example a google search for "RX560 passmark" will give you the link
https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Radeon RX 560
showing a rating of 4320

The strongest 75w graphics card is likely the GTX1650 with a rating of 7921

ATX is a case motherboard size standard indicating 7 typical expansion slots.
What is the model of your fractal design case?

There are some slim media pc cases that are ATX format that will not hold a full height graphics card.
On occasion graphics card length can be a factor.

 

[cryoburner]

If your case can hold a normal-size graphics card and you can stretch your budget a bit, it might be worth moving up to an RX 570 rather than a 560, considering the 570 can be close to twice as fast in games where performance is graphics-limited, and can be had for not much more...

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#c=392&sort=price&page=1

 

[simmyx]

ATX is a case motherboard size standard indicating 7 typical expansion slots.
What is the model of your fractal design case?

Focus G

www.fractal-design.com

Yes, there are seven expansion slots. I can always take the LAN card out if I have to as I only do hard wired

on the Mobo it says " pci gen 3 x 4 "

 

[geofelt]

A very nice case.
The specs say you can install a graphics card of up to 380mm.
That is huge, nobody makes a card that long.
The height is also not an issue.

 

[simmyx]

A very nice case.
The specs say you can install a graphics card of up to 380mm.
That is huge, nobody makes a card that long.
The height is also not an issue.

Thanks dude
Which should I be looking for, DDR3 or DDR4 ? eBuyer Q&A say it only supports DDR4

I'd like to get a " Gigabyte " GPU as it's the same as my Mobo

 

[geofelt]

Thanks dude
Which should I be looking for, DDR3 or DDR4 ? eBuyer Q&A say it only supports DDR4

I'd like to get a " Gigabyte " GPU as it's the same as my Mobo

You already have DDR4 ram which is used by your motherboard.
The ram type on a graphics card is completely separate and has no relation to the motherboard ram.
Modern graphics cards will use DDR5 or even DDR6.
It is useless to make graphics card specs the basis for card selection.
If you play a particular game to the exclusion of most others, you could look for benchmarks of that game and see if any graphics card plays that game particularly well.
To compare cards, you could look at tom's gpu hierarchy list:
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html
Or look up the passmark performance ratings.

In a similar vein, there is little reason to try to match the makers of your motherboard to the maker of your graphics card.
The guts of a graphics card will all be the same, coming from either amd or nvidia.
The differences are mostly marketing and perhaps the level of factory overclock.

 

[j3ster]

They look huge,not sure they would fit in my case, my case is a big ATX not sure if it's full sized or not though ? What are the measurments for a full sized ATX ?

Also what are the specs for the "Radeon Vega RX Graphics 11 " so I can compare it to other ones ?
I'd rather not get one thats so big, but that is an upgrade if you know what I mean

the GPU should fit fine and they arent that big. in fact i find the RX 560/570 as small.
well its an iGPU (vega 11) comparing it to either a RX 560/570 or GTX 1650 is pointless since they will be more than twice as capable in games and anything else respectively.

Thanks dude
Which should I be looking for, DDR3 or DDR4 ? eBuyer Q&A say it only supports DDR4

I'd like to get a " Gigabyte " GPU as it's the same as my Mobo

if you can increase your budget you can get this instead of the RX 560.

Video Card: Asus Radeon RX 570 4 GB ROG STRIX Video Card (£130.00 @ AWD-IT)
Total: £130.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available


also for the brand thingy, i have an Asus motherboard and i use a MSI GPU, if you think something wrong might happen if you mix them, there wont be so you can mix them all you want (i personally prefer MSI GPUs then Asus then gigabyte respectively), also the reason why i chose asus for my recommendations for both the RX 560 and RX 570 is that they are the cheapest and have the best cooling for their price.

 

[simmyx]

Thats great thanks guys.
Last question, it will definitely work in Linux right ? I just need to fit it and plug my monitor into the new GPU and not the integrated one ?

 

[geofelt]

I am no expert on linux.
But to get full resolution out of any graphics card, you need to install a driver for that card.
Presumably amd or linux has an appropriate driver.

 

[simmyx]

Some of the GPUs look big and im thinking I'll have to take my LAN card out for it to fit or will it be ok ?
I know it will fit in the case but on my Mobo doesn't look huge

 

[geofelt]

Some of the GPUs look big and im thinking I'll have to take my LAN card out for it to fit or will it be ok ?
I know it will fit in the case but on my Mobo doesn't look huge

Most good graphics cards take up two slots.
Such a card will cover the first pcie x4 slot
If you have something installed in that slot, move it to the next x4 slot.
Then, also, the motherboard already has a lan adapter available on the rear i/o panel.
If by lan adapter, you really mean a wifi adapter that is a different thing.
If you can't move a wifi adapter to the second pcie x4 slot, you can always get wifi functionality by using a USB connected wifi adapter.

 

[simmyx]

I cannot seem to get any slots off on the case, just the one.. see photo


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