Report: AMD FX-9590 Last Breed of AMD FX CPU?

[Guest]

Radiovan is the one with a marred image. Peopel who actually use the FX-8350 day in and day out and game with it know what he is saying is a crock of s--t. This is not some crippled cpu. It does virtually every thing from productivity to gaming without a hiccup. Can your Intel-skewed synthetic benchmarks. There is nothing from Intel in that price range that compares. I buy apps like winzip, which is multithreaded. I don't use winrar and anybody who does needs to have their head examined. It is a poorly designed program. I do NOT buy poorly designed programs. From shoot-em-up games like Hitman and BF3 and BF4 to welll-designed database strategy games like Galactic Civilizations II, which is multi-threaded, they flow without a hiccup at the highest resolutions. Only pathetic fan boys can deny this truth. Don't reward software companies who are too lazy to multi-thread, they are archaic and belong in some horror museum expo. Buy quality software that unlocks the power of your cpu. That is why I use AMD and why I have no problems with it.

Tom is truly a magnet for folks with mental illness. Don't make your biased ego-associative deductive reasoning into a personal ad hominem. I had AMD proc's in my personal desktops and business workstations since the AMD Athlon XP 3200+ days, the only non-AMD desktop proc I have used in my builds has been Intel's i7-3820, because of my workstation software requirements - better single threaded performance. Have a cookie from Tom's, my special friend.

 

[noob2222]

VR-Zone is getting some major web traffic from their speculation that AMD doesn't have a 2015 roadmap and is closing shop in 2014.

 

[spearhead]

It could be the end to AM3+ as a socket indeed but who says its the end of the performance core. AMD is known to keep there roadmaps secretive , they might went with a different approach and even a all APU line-up woulnd mean they cannot make performance cpu's when HSA reaches adoption and 8 core APU designs like the ones in PS4 and XBOX1 hit the ground in the desktop market who knows were they will end up performance wise. HSA looks promissing no matter how we look at it its a lot faster then traditional x86 core calculations. Still i look forward to a traditional steamroller cpu however it would be nice if AM3+ wasnt just compleetly forgotten.

 

[JPNpower]

The reaction by the amd fan boys here is shocking. Amd power debate aside, this should be good news not bad news. Stop whining about Intel optimized software and look ahead to when amd can go knocking into their territory and win. Change its good.

 

[ojas]

Interesting stuff from HWiNFO's changelog.

-Added support of Intel Broadwell family.

-Added AMD Volcanic Islands/Crystal: Maui, Iceland/Topaz, Tonga/Amethyst.

-Added AMD Pirate Islands: Bermuda, Fiji, Treasure.

-Added AMD Carrizo, Amur, Bhavani.

So Broadwell's obviously on time, "Volcanic Islands" is the name of the desktop GPUs, and "Volcanic Crystals" are mobile GPUs (according to Xbit Labs, at least).

They say Pirate Islands will come in 2015, i doubt that's correct because i'm not sure that HWiNFO would add them to their database two years in advance (or that AMD would give them access).

Xbit Labs suggest that Carrizo is the successor to Kaveri, they don't know about the other two.

Now, i just looked back at how AMD names its processors.

Carrizo could be anything, really. It's a place in the US, so it could be an Opteron (since Interlagos), it's a plain so it could be an APU like Trinity and Llano (since, llano also means plain), which aligns with Xbit's lab's suggestion that it's Kaveri's successor, though with Kaveri itself out next year and no mention of it in the log, i'm not buying this.

Amur is a river in the Russia-China area so it's likely to be Vishera's successor. Rejoice.

Bhavani is an Indian name, so it's likely a successor to Tamesh.

Only thing i'm not sure about is Kabini's successor, since it's also the name of a river in India, so going by the name Kabini's successor should be Kaveri. Then Carizzo could succeed Trinity and it would make sense, but i dunno.

Maybe Kaveri can be scaled up and down effectively?

Anyway, link: http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/graphics/display/20130807235048_New_AMD_Code_Names_Surface_as_AMD_s_Volcanic_Islands_and_Pirate_Islands_Get_Uncovered.html

 

[funguseater]

"That said, considering that the 5.0 GHz FX-9590 CPU didn't perform particularly spectacularly against its competitors"

BECAUSE it is an overclocked FX8350 NOT a new CPU architecture. People who bought a $1000 CPU without doing a little legwork deserve what they got.

 

[ajchavez91]

I'd love if AMD would commit a 100% into GPU development. They difinitely shine in that aspect, specially because of the great performance and very competitive price. Dedicating resources to developing better GPUs while keeping good prices AND focusing on optimizing drivers more often would be really great. At least that's my opinion.

 

[ajchavez91]

I'd love if AMD would commit a 100% into GPU development. They difinitely shine in that aspect, specially because of the great performance and very competitive price. Dedicating resources to developing better GPUs while keeping good prices AND focusing on optimizing drivers more often would be really great. At least that's my opinion.

 

[danwat1234]

I wish AMD had some decent mobile APUs/CPUs. 35w TDP doesn't allow for much performance. Intel's standard mobile APU is 47w such as the 4700MQ.

 

[sykozis]

So, Toms posts an article about the death of a CPU series...using a completely unrelated article as a source. The source used for this article, is a rumor fabricated by VR-Zone about Kaveri being delayed.

Kaveri's delay is confirmed. I've heard this from AMD first hand. Further talk in western media has pretty much confirmed this too. 2H 2014.

So, it's "confirmed" for 2H 2014? That doesn't explain the second article VR-Zone ran saying what AMD has been saying... Kaveri is shipping to OEMs in Q4 2013 and will hit retail channel in Q1 2014. This has supposedly been "confirmed" to VR-Zone by AMD.

http://vr-zone.com/articles/amd-confirms-kaveri-will-be-in-the-hands-of-enthusiasts-in-2014/50308.html

VR-Zone is getting some major web traffic from their speculation that AMD doesn't have a 2015 roadmap and is closing shop in 2014.

If they return to profitability in the next quarter as projected they should have little issue surviving into 2015. Not showing a roadmap publicly is hardly reason to speculate that they'll close up shop. In AMD's current position, they're better off not showing a product roadmap to anyone outside of the company. A roadmap is simply a projection of possible product release timeframe and sites like VR-Zone seem to take them as a "set in stone" schedule for release.

 

[bluekoala]

I remember pre bulldozer roadmaps showing that the FX series was temporary until the fusion cores mature. Now with the increasing adoption of OpenCL it doesn't make much sense to buy GPU-less CPUs anymore. I think in four years from now GPU-less CPU's will be regarded as completely obsolete, much like single core CPUs currently are.

 

[falchard]

I think there is a very simple reason to abandon the FX namesake.
Its because FX10850 sounds stupid. You also really can't add anything to the number and FX without it looking stupid as well. FX-850-SX

 

[tomsworkshop]

The future is fusion, save the resource for the APU line

 

[tomsworkshop]

I think there is a very simple reason to abandon the FX namesake.
Its because FX10850 sounds stupid. You also really can't add anything to the number and FX without it looking stupid as well. FX-850-SX

well, they still can use it like "A10-7900FX"

 

[ojas]

So, Toms posts an article about the death of a CPU series...using a completely unrelated article as a source. The source used for this article, is a rumor fabricated by VR-Zone about Kaveri being delayed.

Kaveri's delay is confirmed. I've heard this from AMD first hand. Further talk in western media has pretty much confirmed this too. 2H 2014.

So, it's "confirmed" for 2H 2014? That doesn't explain the second article VR-Zone ran saying what AMD has been saying... Kaveri is shipping to OEMs in Q4 2013 and will hit retail channel in Q1 2014. This has supposedly been "confirmed" to VR-Zone by AMD.

http://vr-zone.com/articles/amd-confirms-kaveri-will-be-in-the-hands-of-enthusiasts-in-2014/50308.html

Um, no, i didn't mean that, i meant the delay is confirmed, not when. We were told that their hUMA stuff (which is Kaveri) was coming next year, at a post-computex press event (around June 15th).

Another roadmap showed Kaveri based server chips being available in Q1 2014, but i believe i got the 2H date from:
http://wccftech.com/amd-kaveri-apu-delay-confirmed-launches-pushed-midfebruary-2014/

Ok, my bad, it's Q1 2014. Sorry! Got muddled up. I believe this is the first time i've mentioned anywhere that it's "2H 2014", so i hope there wasn't any misinformation spread.

But yeah, shipping means little, effective launch (when you can buy the stuff) is next year, when initially the launch was supposed to be end of this year. So in that sense, delayed.

I mean, Haswell was obviously shipping before June, but was launched during Computex.

 

[computertech82]

AMD has admitted YEARS ago they will NOT compete against Intel. They are changing to items that make money. There will be no such thing as a AMD gaming cpu. Intel is many generations ahead already. No way amd is catching up.

 

[JPNpower]

What do you mean? The only place where AMD does compete with Intel is with threaded gaming. Anywhere else, like power consumption and non gaming programs is where Intel is eons ahead. Yes FX naming will have to change.

What is everybody's wish/projection?
FX 100 (three digits)
No FX
GX 1000 (new two letter)
Phenom stuff

Wait up... the FX naming can continue. Like FX 8450. huh? whats up with these guys.

 

[bluekoala]

AMD has admitted YEARS ago they will NOT compete against Intel. They are changing to items that make money. There will be no such thing as a AMD gaming cpu. Intel is many generations ahead already. No way amd is catching up.

Here are 2 things I think you are mistaking on:

1. "Many generations ahead"
I would argue that Intel is perhaps 1 or two generations ahead.
"Many" in my opinion is much of an overstatement.

2. "No way amd is catching up"
AMD has been catching up. No reason why they would stop.

On a side note, I'm pretty sure AMD pointed out that they will not be competing on the high end with Intel. Last I was informed Cyrix CPU's are out of the race and AMD is the only one competing with Intel on the x86 front.

 

[JPNpower]

BTW, this is chips. Nobody just pulls away and wins. Just look at old AMD. Extreme lead over Intel, almost driving it to bust.

Then this thing called "core 2" happened and changed everything

 

[ojas]

BTW, this is chips. Nobody just pulls away and wins. Just look at old AMD. Extreme lead over Intel, almost driving it to bust.

Then this thing called "core 2" happened and changed everything

What i heard/read was that the real thing that hit AMD was the anti-competitive stuff Intel was engaging in, back then.

 

[sarinaide]

BTW, this is chips. Nobody just pulls away and wins. Just look at old AMD. Extreme lead over Intel, almost driving it to bust.

Then this thing called "core 2" happened and changed everything

What i heard/heard was that the real thing that hit AMD was the anti-competitive stuff Intel was engaging in, back then.

:lol: Even with Netbust😀 Intel out sold AMD Athlon's through methods deemed under the counter. Toms Hardware was one such place advocating Intel D's over Athlon's, why because Intel funded it and were not the only ones. Intel's failures outsold Jim Keller's Athlons like 8:1 hence why Ruiz launched a case against Intel in the first place. Intel got what they wanted because they had the money to throw their weight behind and AMD were always the the small fry that was going to get rooted out.

the big deal here is that Intel through benchmarketing ensured that AMD were locked out of the lucrative OEM markets, that effectively broke AMD's back and they never recovered from it.

 

[JPNpower]

Aw, don't be so sore. AMD isn't dead just yet.

 

[maza90210]

AMD are probably focusing more on the APUs, and the next gen graphics cards, amd hd 9xxx series?

 

[mikejax21]

i personally would be sad if amd drops the fx line. ive had amd processors in my machines for years. i think amd has a niche in the market you can get a processor that will handle most of the day to day gaming and desktop work load that an intel processor will handle. the point that intel is faster than amd only matter when your running bench marks.i have my fx6100 clocked at 4.2 ghz and it rarely ever goes over 2.9 ghz unless im running every program i have on my machine at the same time and even before the over clock i still didnt use much power. the point is if your on a budget go with amd if you want to be like one of those iphone hipsters go with intel

 

[hannibal]

When we consider that Intel has GPU in sandy, ivy, haswell and those are for serious home usage. So making APU:s for sirious home usege is a way that AMD will definitely chose. It will be interresting to see is the server and workstation CPU will have GPU or not in the future. And shose could be easyly be relabelled as an FX series, but who knows...
In anyway APUs are the way to go with consumer market at this momement. Normal Mr smith will do just fine with APU GPU part and gamer could use APU GPU for physic calculations and separete graphic card to actual screen draving.
As it has been said the AMD did have a plan to go purely merged APU prosessors from many year ago. Maybe thay just accelerated their plans. But those server chips complicates this thing a guite a lot.