Report: AMD Hired JP Morgan to Explore Options

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kog91

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Correction: the A-53 and A-52 Cortex processors are the 64-bit ARM architecture that AMD is planning on using. A-15 is 32-bit and not suitable for large memory environments.
 

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People still try to put AMD's products in the same light as Intel's, but with Intel's market value of practically 100 times that of AMD's I'd have to say AMD's offerings are amazing in this perspective. It is very frightening though, the thought of an Intel monopoly. I really really hope it doesn't come to that.
 

kog91

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[citation][nom]gamerk316[/nom]Bye AMD. Was a nice ride.[/citation]

AMD has been in this situation more than once, the end of 2008 for one. The problem is that people look at stock values and assume that is a measure of the success or failure of a company. That is simply not true. AMD has been at this game for a very long time. It may mean they need to reinvent themselves in terms of markets and tactics, but they are a long way off from ever throwing in the towel.

Or have you all forgotten that 20% of AMD is owned by the United Arab Emirates. With that kind of capital pool, revenue isn't the only piece of the story.
 

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Correct me if im wrong, but i was under the impression that AMD GPUs were having a decent run overall in the market.
In processors they have been loosing for quite some time with intel, but i have no idea what they could work on right now...
 

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@kog91 that's pretty cool information. I had no idea the United Arab Emirates owned such a large portion of AMD! Reading up on it now.
 

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...JP Morgan... also at the center of that MASSIVE bail-out for the banking sector... so i don't see JP Morgan helping AMD... maybe they can find a suitable buyer?... (it is to strong to call JP Morgan a "Vampire" or "Bloor sucker" ... just slightly too strong...
 

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Please oh Please oh Please someone fire that AMD ceo already.
He is nothing but bad news for the company, and hes been screwing things up since he started.
AMD could of easily caught up, especially when they sold GF off and with that 1 billion from intel, but that money magically disappeared.
AND With the FX launch, he didn't have plan B. (faster clock Phenom II)
Also since AMD decided to not make high end parts, they lost touch with the enthusiasts, and they need those people as they are the people who recommend AMD to other people. Call them the sales people.
Anyways, AMD, if you want to go screw yourself, then please separate yourself from ATI, I want my canadian company back. The CEO and AMD can go F themselves together with the billions in stockpile, but give ATI back at least before you ruin it too.

I think the CEO of AMD must hang out with his fellow friends at the board of HP, as both seem to be equally retarded.
 

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[citation][nom]Cats_Paw[/nom]Correct me if im wrong, but i was under the impression that AMD GPUs were having a decent run overall in the market.In processors they have been loosing for quite some time with intel, but i have no idea what they could work on right now...[/citation]what scare me is the recent driver support, the decision to drop the driver support for not so old HD4000 GPU really bad one. HD4000 GPU is still pretty fast GPU and capable to play a lot of latest games with no issue. I can understand if they decide to drop HD2000, but 3000, 4000 still pretty quite decent for new games.
 

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[citation][nom]Tomfreak[/nom]what scare me is the recent driver support, the decision to drop the driver support for not so old HD4000 GPU really bad one. HD4000 GPU is still pretty fast GPU and capable to play a lot of latest games with no issue. I can understand if they decide to drop HD2000, but 3000, 4000 still pretty quite decent for new games.[/citation]

This is what happens when you lay off your engineers.... Although they didn't entirely dropped the driver support for 4000 series. They still release new drivers for 4000 series but at a slower pace.
 

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[citation][nom]kog91[/nom]AMD has been in this situation more than once, the end of 2008 for one. The problem is that people look at stock values and assume that is a measure of the success or failure of a company. That is simply not true. AMD has been at this game for a very long time. It may mean they need to reinvent themselves in terms of markets and tactics, but they are a long way off from ever throwing in the towel.Or have you all forgotten that 20% of AMD is owned by the United Arab Emirates. With that kind of capital pool, revenue isn't the only piece of the story.[/citation]


back in 08 it was check; this time it looks more like check mate.
 
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OR AMD hired JP Morgan to Explore taking AMD private! JP Morgan could find a suitable private equity firm with deep pockets and long term goals for AMD's very valuable IP! Yes converting AMD from a publicly held company with all the short term profit pressures (Stockholders) to privately held private equity firm with big investors (very wealthy investors with deep pockets who can afford to loose money for a few quarters and not worry about it). Private equity qroups can and do run companys at a loss for a time, or the break even point for even longer, while they employ turnaround specialists to return a failing company to profitability!
 

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These days advertisements are so sweet people will buy manuer that's advertised as play dough. Get in peoples face every day and they will know your brand. Pair up with Linux or Valve and make your own OS for servers, gaming, maybe even smart phones or an AMD branded Home theatre set up. You make or band memory, you make chips, you make graphics. Stop selling off what little assets you do have. Make sweet contracts with top companies like Apple, Amazon, GE, Google, etc. Youre already on the works with Sony I hope. That is just my opinion...
 
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AMD will deny the sale of the company until they have a buyer. Take my word on this. The company known as AMD will no longer exist, and ATi will be made into its own company again.

heed my warning!
 
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JustPosting75, no breakup no sale of ATI, or any other valuable AMD IP, Just JPM chase and the agreed upon private equity qroup telling AMD's stock holders: Sell your shares to us now, at face value, or sell to us at pennys on the dollar, after the bankruptcy court orders the sell to us, after bankruptcy is declared!
AMD is just like chrysler, in the auto industry, that was taken private, and then turned around!
 

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[citation][nom]Cats_Paw[/nom]Correct me if im wrong, but i was under the impression that AMD GPUs were having a decent run overall in the market.[/citation]
The problem with GPUs is that people who buy mid/high-end graphics account for less than 5% of the market, the low-end is getting cannibalized by IGPs, most low/mid-range laptops use IGP, the desktop market is shrinking and the ASP on very capable GPUs are dropping as well.

The discrete GPU candle is burning from both ends: IGPs are raising the bar for the minimum discrete GPU worth buying while lowering the amount of cash casual gamers and non-gamers are willing to spend on better-than-IGP graphics. About a month ago, some numbers were leaked from AMD hinting that the HD8850 might launch under $200, $50 less than the HD7850's launch price. This seems to indicate that AMD expects to have to give (much) more for (much) less to keep people interested in discrete GPUs.

The uber-gamers may still buy $400 GPUs but they account for only a tiny (and probably shrinking) piece of the overall pie.
 

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[citation][nom]faster23rd[/nom]AMD, please hang on in there and surge back up, I don't want an Intel monopoly. Such a thought would be horrible for customers and the industry alike.[/citation]
This may not be a bad thing. Because then Intel can reduce the prices of their products. But I highly doubt the FTC will let the deal go through.
 
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faster23rd, neither you nor Uncle SAM wants AMD to fail, or for that matter Intel! If AMD is allowed to fail, that would mean Uncle Sam could possably order the breakup of Intel for antitrist reasons, and Intel would not like that! That is why the Big Guns at JPM chase were brought to bear, big guns and deep pockets!
 

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[citation][nom]shqtth[/nom]Please oh Please oh Please someone fire that AMD ceo already. He is nothing but bad news for the company, and hes been screwing things up since he started.AMD could of easily caught up, especially when they sold GF off and with that 1 billion from intel, but that money magically disappeared.AND With the FX launch, he didn't have plan B. (faster clock Phenom II)Also since AMD decided to not make high end parts, they lost touch with the enthusiasts, and they need those people as they are the people who recommend AMD to other people. Call them the sales people.Anyways, AMD, if you want to go screw yourself, then please separate yourself from ATI, I want my canadian company back. The CEO and AMD can go F themselves together with the billions in stockpile, but give ATI back at least before you ruin it too.I think the CEO of AMD must hang out with his fellow friends at the board of HP, as both seem to be equally retarded.[/citation]
Plenty of wrong with this, unfortunately.

For a start, you can only truly judge a strategy once it's panned out. Looking at it midway through without knowledge of what RR is trying to achieve will obviously lead to people drawing the wrong conclusions. Some say those engineers were the company's life blood - what if they weren't? It's like sacking a football (soccer) manager after a few games because the team aren't performing - you give the manager time to bring in his ideas and attempt to make things work.

AMD had to pay to get out of contract with GF. They still are paying, and they still will be for the forseeable future.

A faster clocked Phenom II wouldn't have been the right idea, either. If you've made an architectural choice, you stick with it. Phenom II is old, in ways it's inefficient, and it lacks modern ISA support. K8 really needed to die a death after a long period of service; it was great against the Pentium 4, but you always needed core-count-plus-1 or a higher clock speed to match/beat Core 2 (Penryn). Expensive.

Enthusiast sales are all well and good, but they do make up a fraction of AMD's actual sales. What might do AMD more good is to ignore the mid- and high-end desktop market altogether - focus on server and mobile APU. Considering the A10-4600M is approximately two-thirds the performance of the A10-5800K for a third of the power, you can see why APUs belong more to mobile devices. AMD is also supposed to be readying its Jaguar APUs, the lower end of which could do well in perfornance tablets and even Ultrathins/Sleekbooks if they chose to throw them in there. If AMD spreads themselves too thinly they won't have enough product available for next-gen consoles, and they have had a hefty presence in that market.

Finally, your comments regarding ATi - has AMD at any point made their graphics division less competitive?
 
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