Report: GeForce GTX 980 Will Cost $599

[N.Broekhuijsen]

The rumor mill has churned out some pricing info for the upcoming GTX 980 and GTX 970.

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[Spanky Deluxe]

Seeing as the 780 ti can be had for just over $600, I can't see the 980 being priced at $599 with performance a little lower than the 780 ti as leaked benchmarks are suggesting. What would be the point?

 

[Bartor495]

Seeing as the 780 ti can be had for just over $600, I can't see the 980 being priced at $599 with performance a little lower than the 780 ti as leaked benchmarks are suggesting. What would be the point?

They'll probably lower the price of the 780 ti, just like what happened with the 780 when the 780 ti was released.

 

[CaptainTom]

I'm sorry but this generation is kind of a fail on desktop if the 980 truly is no stronger than the 780 Ti. Now Laptops will get a VERY nice boost, but still this leaves Nvidia open for a massive reaming from AMD if they are not careful. If AMD really does release a 3072 SP monster with 7GHz memory and Tonga improvements they could stomp the 980 by at least 20-30%. That would be worth the power consumption too for ANY enthusiast.

 

[Spanky Deluxe]

Having read the German article, they're basing those numbers on pre-listings which are usually over-inflated so hopefully the originally rumoured price of $499 is what the 980 will actually be sold at.

 

[rmpumper]

Seeing as the 780 ti can be had for just over $600, I can't see the 980 being priced at $599 with performance a little lower than the 780 ti as leaked benchmarks are suggesting. What would be the point?

The point would be to milk every penny from consumers until R9 3xx comes along.

 

[TechyInAZ]

Nvidia Geforce must not be focusing too much on performance (just compare the 980 to 780 ti and there isn't much of a performance increase), but mainly targeting high resolution monitors and lower tdp. Which is good since 4k is gona get really popular really fast so I'd say it's good they are sticking to focusing on memory and bandwidth.

 

[MSgtGunny]

Its almost like Nvidia is doing a tick tock cycle like Intel, they innovate on a tick and then shrink and reduce power consumption on a tock.

 

[nikoli707]

we all knew this wasn't going to be the flagship maxwell gtx1000 or gtx1000ti based on the gm210 which will likely carry a 275w tdp and at least a 30% performance improvement over gk110. we will have to wait another year for that.

that said… a 180w tdp is a huge improvement of worthy praise.

 

[JackNaylorPE]

The highest rated 780 Ti (aside from highly specialized versions aka KingPin) has been $600 every other week or so on newegg for 4-5 months. Asus 780 Ti is $580, Gigabyte's is $600.

The 980 is what it is intended to be, a card faster than anything offered by the competition. The Ti or whatever card nVidia holds in it's back pocket won't be released till after AMD shows it's hand. To quote Yogi .... "It's déjà vu all over again"

The question I am seeking to have answered is how much overclocking headroom they have will they leave .... stick with the typical 25% or drive the clocks up closer to the edge like the R9 series.

Gotta read more closely before you draw conclusions on performance differences. The article is misleading in that it isn't comparing apples and apples. The 780 Ti in the graph that it is being compared with is overclocked. The base clock of the 780 Ti is 876 Mhz. The ones shown in the graph are at 928 (5.9% OC) and 1150 (31.3% OC). The stock 980 is 3% slower than the 31 % overclocked 780 Ti not the stock 876 Mhz 780 Ti. The 980's base clock is 1126/1127 depending on source.

The 5.6% (1190 / 1126) OC on the 980 scores 13005
The 5.9 % (928 / 876) OC on the 780 Ti score is 11096

That's a 17% performance difference at the same ~ 6% OC

 

[ohim]

Instead of tic tock they should only do the Tock ... but likes some one above said .. they need to milk people for money. This way it would be worth buying new stuff...
Or consumers need to get smart (yeah right) and buy only on the tock.

And i always hate fan boys living in a fairy tale where they see their brand with over 30% more performance over the competition... you have nothing to base your assumptions on and you still make them ....

 

[chaospower]

The GTX 980 is shown to be better than the 780TI according to the numbers, why does the guy who makes these articles keep insisting it's slower?

 

[JackNaylorPE]

The GTX 980 is shown to be better than the 780TI according to the numbers, why does the guy who makes these articles keep insisting it's slower?

It's all in how you interpret the data.... the graphs just say a 31% OC'd 780 Ti is 3% faster than a stock 980. See two posts up.

 

[chaospower]

I did see that, all it means is that only someone who doesn't understand the concept of overclocking would interpert the data as stated in the article. Aka, wrongly.

 

[pills161]

Wow kind of a fail, I had actually kicked around the idea of upgrading my 780 to the 980 but the performance gains (stock) just aren't there and for $600 give me a break. I may wait until the non reference TI's come out, if price is better and OC potential is high I may reconsider.

 

[JackNaylorPE]

Wow kind of a fail, I had actually kicked around the idea of upgrading my 780 to the 980 but the performance gains (stock) just aren't there and for $600 give me a break. I may wait until the non reference TI's come out, if price is better and OC potential is high I may reconsider.

The 980 is 17% faster according to the charts at same OC level ..... The 780 was 21% faster than the 680 in TPUs game summary .... not sure about firestrike.... we'll know in a few days. Still not much of a surprise.....certainly typical.

I did see that, all it means is that only someone who doesn't understand the concept of overclocking would interpert the data as stated in the article. Aka, wrongly.

Well I can understand the rush to publish something and maybe missing the fact that none of the 780 Tis they put in the comparison chart were at stock settings. I agree author should have checked put videocardz.com shuda made that clear too.

Then again, I'll bet the rash of articles poo pooing the 980 will run 2nd only to those poo pooing Apples new phone . We saw the same thing when the R9 series was released. All the focus was on power and heat and less on the fact that AMD was overclocking the crap outta these cards and providing a warranty on that performance. If you have ever had to argue with a manufacturer about a factory OC'd card not being able too run at factory OC, it's laborious.

The fact that we only see a 6% OC in that chart I wonder if that's indicative of nVidia following suit.

But 180 TDB .... dang you water cool a pair of those with a lot less radiator....a 360mm rad with 1250 rpm fans and ya done .... or even a 280 at 1400 rpm.

I wouldn't doubt if nVidia does bump the price up $100 given the price of the 290x, if there's enough stock around still, why sabotage what they are getting for the 780 / 780 Ti. No doubt they have room to sell it at $499 and that's where it will go when AMD answers. Good for those that wait ..... not so good for early adopters.

 

[Lamontiego]

I want DP 1.3 and HDMI 2.0 with atleast 4g of memory with 15,000 3DMark GPU Score to even think of upgrading. Right now, R290 is my go to card mostly because of the 4g of video.

 

[DarkSable]

we would expect the GTX 980 to sit right between the two, while the GTX 970 will perform slightly slower than the GTX 780. This product stack placement is supported by the calculated benchmark scores.

No, Tom's, it's not supported by the benchmark scores. Go look at what the site that you're using AS YOUR VALIDATION says... out of three tests of the 980, two of them are faster than a 780ti, and one of them is 3% slower. That's not "between the 780ti and the 780."

Do some research, or at least please read the articles that you're putting in your own stories.

In addition, those are synthetic benchmarks. We have no idea how well these things are actually going to perform, which means that all articles like these are doing is adding fuel for the trolls and misinformed. (Who are mostly misinformed from your own incorrect articles.)

 

[JackNaylorPE]

I want DP 1.3 and HDMI 2.0 with atleast 4g of memory with 15,000 3DMark GPU Score to even think of upgrading. Right now, R290 is my go to card mostly because of the 4g of video.

Have you found anything that shows a performance increase at 4 GB. Other than this, which shows that some games will show 1 fps or so gain at 5760 x 1080 at 4 GB, I haven't found anything indicating a performance advantage. Yes as it says in last paragraph, some games will use more than 2 GB, but the performance didn't change at all # 5760 going from 2 to 4 GB

http://alienbabeltech.com/main/gtx-770-4gb-vs-2gb-tested/3/

There is one last thing to note with Max Payne 3: It would not normally allow one to set 4xAA at 5760×1080 with any 2GB card as it claims to require 2750MB. However, when we replaced the 4GB GTX 770 with the 2GB version, the game allowed the setting. And there were no slowdowns, stuttering, nor any performance differences that we could find between the two GTX 770s.

With this such a common subject of conversation, it's surprising that there is such a dearth of test data on the subject.

 

[kardinin]

Just about the only reason to upgrade would be for the larger RAM if you're going to play at 1440p or above. That's the reason I'm waiting, at least. Of course, I have a pair of radeon 5850s sitting around right now - ANYTHING will beat the pants off of these two stalwarts.

 

[DookieDraws]

I'd like to buy the GTX 980 for $400 dollars, Alex! I'd also pay $300 for the GTX 970. Come on NVIDIA, don't make me pay over $400 for one of these and have to go on a cracker and water diet for 2 months!

 

[FunSurfer]

What?! The GTX 980 will have a TDP of just 175W!
http://www.game-debate.com/news/?news=14400&graphics=GeForce GTX 980 4GB&title=Official Nvidia Geforce GTX 980 Final Specs Revealed
Captain Planet rejoices!

 

[JackNaylorPE]

The original source actually quotes 165 watts

http://videocardz.com/52362/only-at-vc-nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-final-specifications

And for those that asked about DP .... disappointment follows:

GeForce GTX 980 has 2048 CUDA cores, 128 TMUs and 64 ROPs. Card is equipped with 4GB GDDR5 memory and 256-bit interface. It has a bandwidth of GTX 770, which is 224 GB/s. By comparing it to Kepler parts, we notice that Maxwell-based graphics cards arrive with relatively higher clock speeds, GTX 980 has a base clock of 1126 MHz and boost clock of 1216 MHz.

The biggest news here is that GTX 980 has only a TDP of 165W. That’s amazing power reduction compared to 250W GK110.

Last but not least, I can now confirm that GeForce GTX 980 has HDMI 2.0 support. And if you somehow missed my previous news, GTX 980 has 5 display outputs: DVI-I, HDMI2.0 and three DisplayPorts 1.2 (not 1.3).

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 will be released on September 19th. Card is expected to cost around $599 USD (unconfirmed).

 

[zankuto]

We are comparing stock clocked 980 to overclocked 780 Ti. Id like to see what factory overclocked GTX 980s can do before we declare it a failure.

 

[Lamontiego]

I want DP 1.3 and HDMI 2.0 with atleast 4g of memory with 15,000 3DMark GPU Score to even think of upgrading. Right now, R290 is my go to card mostly because of the 4g of video.

Have you found anything that shows a performance increase at 4 GB. Other than this, which shows that some games will show 1 fps or so gain at 5760 x 1080 at 4 GB, I haven't found anything indicating a performance advantage. Yes as it says in last paragraph, some games will use more than 2 GB, but the performance didn't change at all # 5760 going from 2 to 4 GB

http://alienbabeltech.com/main/gtx-770-4gb-vs-2gb-tested/3/

There is one last thing to note with Max Payne 3: It would not normally allow one to set 4xAA at 5760×1080 with any 2GB card as it claims to require 2750MB. However, when we replaced the 4GB GTX 770 with the 2GB version, the game allowed the setting. And there were no slowdowns, stuttering, nor any performance differences that we could find between the two GTX 770s.

With this such a common subject of conversation, it's surprising that there is such a dearth of test data on the subject.

I went from a 2g to a 4g because of higher resolution prospects for down the road. I do monitor how much memory is cashed in the video memory and often it does exceed 2g's and I have seen it as high as almost 4g's at 1080p. I do want to game at 4k eventually, when it is affordable, and I can do it at 60hz for now in a CF configuration. Now I understand with the new DP 1.3 can provide 120hz so It's now the graphic cards and panel/monitor/TV makers turn to supply the interface. So, if you're OK with 1080p resolution, then going over 2g's of video memory might be unnecessary in most current games but what about games released in the next year or two? I would avoid 2g cards for the enthusiast gamer.