Report: HP Considering Splitting up Into Smaller Companies

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ta152h

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The title doesn't match the text.

Selling off non-performing parts of the company is not the same was splitting up into smaller companies, at least not in the common use of that term.

When real companies feel their stock is undervalued, they buy back the stock to increase stockholder value. Selling off parts of the company that don't make money might not be a bad idea, but fragmenting the company is a bad idea, because if you separate server/printers/PCs, the comfort level of customers who want to buy all from the same company is gone.

They already went through this and realized it was a mistake, so I doubt anything like that will happen. It's more likely they'll just shed some non-performing parts that aren't critical to their business, or their product portfolio.
 

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So HP thought Dell screwed up going private, but everything HP touches turns to s***, they buy it and then write it down or off, and they need to divest a bunch of stuff again.

Way to go HP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

H and P would vomit if they saw the mess that Leo, Meg, Carly and the others have wrought, total clowns.
 

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[citation][nom]vaughn2k[/nom]The real customers are the SHAREHOLDERS and not consumers, by the way... blood sucking greedy people.[/citation]

A lot of shareholders are people retiring with their 401K, or mutual fund, who need to have money when they retire. Or just every day people who don't want to put money into a bank, because the rate of inflation easily outstrips any interest someone will receive.

So, anyone who saves money, via stock ownership, or retirement fund, is blood sucking because they are hoping to get a return on their investment.

Have you ever considered moving to China or North Korea, comrade? Communism is still around, it's just getting hard to find because it doesn't work that well.
 

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[citation][nom]ta152h[/nom]A lot of shareholders are people retiring with their 401K, or mutual fund, who need to have money when they retire. Or just every day people who don't want to put money into a bank, because the rate of inflation easily outstrips any interest someone will receive.So, anyone who saves money, via stock ownership, or retirement fund, is blood sucking because they are hoping to get a return on their investment.Have you ever considered moving to China or North Korea, comrade? Communism is still around, it's just getting hard to find because it doesn't work that well.[/citation]

Lol, Fox News drone spotted.


If stockholders are so great how come Dell is going private?
 

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[citation][nom]Kami3k[/nom]Lol, Fox News drone spotted.If stockholders are so great how come Dell is going private?[/citation]

And how come EA's shareholders and board of directors allowed the current incompetent CEO to stay in his office?

You know, the CEO that wanted to charge $1 for every magazine/clip of bullets you use, and thinks that would be a bright future for the gaming industry.
 

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I love how this is happening right after they ran their mouth about Dell. You know the Dell executives are celebrating after hearing this news after that. Quite frankly I am surprised any investors are still aboard the sinking ship.

[citation][nom]ta152h[/nom]A lot of shareholders are people retiring with their 401K, or mutual fund, who need to have money when they retire. Or just every day people who don't want to put money into a bank, because the rate of inflation easily outstrips any interest someone will receive.So, anyone who saves money, via stock ownership, or retirement fund, is blood sucking because they are hoping to get a return on their investment.Have you ever considered moving to China or North Korea, comrade? Communism is still around, it's just getting hard to find because it doesn't work that well.[/citation]

While I do understand your point and do not entirely disagree you are talking about minor share holders who never get any real say. It's the extremely large holders that are the issue when they have unrealistic expectations and demands.
 

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I've been a LONG time HP server user at work. I'm not a huge customer, but we do about $150-250K per year with HP hardware and support. Service and quality has gone down big time, especially support response.

I think they need to stop trying to save money short-term and double-down on solid plans to get back on track. Accept that you aren't going to make money for a few years. That's fine, when you can look at Billions in profits when you get things in order.

Of course the silly short-term investors demand profits on a yearly basis, which is at odds with a 70 year old company continuing on with slow, real growth in a mature industry.
 

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The only thing that I own from dell that is decent is my very old desktop that has a P3 in it and org. ran on Windows 95. HP has been nothing but nightmares for me.

Speaking of which, thanks Zak for reminding me to throw out this old HP Deskjet 5940 that has been collecting dust for over 5 years. I keep forgetting to chuck it on trash day.
 

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I wouldn't want to be the guy responsible for investigating Automony's finances before the acquisition... $8.8billion is an awfully big mistake to make
 

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Three things HP needs to do:
1) never buy another company again
2) sell off every division that isn't directly hardware-related
3) draw and market the clear line between glitzy, cheap consumer crap and solid business-class gear
 

ta152h

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[citation][nom]Kami3k[/nom]Lol, Fox News drone spotted.If stockholders are so great how come Dell is going private?[/citation]

Are you sure your name shouldn't be Commie3k?

It's easy to complain about stockholders and companies like they are some machines, but that's for losers who simply don't have, and hate everyone that does.

The reality is different. It's how people save money, and prepare for retirement. Stocks are choppy, but they average 10% a year. You can't put money in a bank, because it loses value. Or buy bonds, since their return isn't great.

I realize, as a communist, you object to capitalism. Here's the reality, it's not perfect, it's just the best that's available.

Capitalism is the unequal distribution of wealth, Communism the equal distribution of misery.

You Communist Pinko Bedwetters who whine about people making money by investing or being industrious should remember that your form of government has failed repeatedly. Grow up, work, take responsibility for your life, and stop whining about other people that do, and make money doing it.

 

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[citation][nom]A Bad Day[/nom]There's your problem.[/citation]
[citation][nom]vaughn2k[/nom]The real customers are the SHAREHOLDERS and not consumers, by the way... blood sucking greedy people.[/citation]

Smartest comments I read all day!
Flimsy computers increase profit margins and bring smiles to shareholders when looking at the bottom line. And the brand name loses it's value and things go where they are going.
Computers are just an example, but I have seen HP quality and dedication dropping on all fronts, making them unreliable for long term support too, not just short term needs.
 

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More CEO the better the company will be? Then in the future they will merge again or sell the nonperforming entity because they realize that they are paying so many CEO's.
 

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[citation][nom]A Bad Day[/nom]And how come EA's shareholders and board of directors allowed the current incompetent CEO to stay in his office?You know, the CEO that wanted to charge $1 for every magazine/clip of bullets you use, and thinks that would be a bright future for the gaming industry.[/citation]

You just proved my point....
 
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