Report: Microsoft to Release Free Antivirus Tuesday

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I'm using Symantec's Norton Internet Security and I'm very happy with it. Why switch if you know OneCare already failed in the first place?
 
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I would be willing to give it a shot; assuming memory usage isn't too high, I would go so far as to recommend it to my clients. The way the big name security suites are chewing up so much in the way of resources, a smaller stripped down product might be just the ticket for the average home PC.
 

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[citation][nom]orbitron[/nom]I'm using Symantec's Norton Internet Security and I'm very happy with it. Why switch if you know OneCare already failed in the first place?[/citation]

OneCare didn't "fail". It just wasn't popular. Nobody ever actually tried it out. I used it as my antivirus solution and recommended it to all of my family and friends and customers (when I worked at a computer store). It was immensely less of a resource hog compared to Norton, McAfee, and Kaspersky, I never ran into any updating or installation issues, which Norton is absolutely terrible for, and it was very quiet as well. Never popped up with any annoying update screens or registration screens or subscription warnings or anything. It performed everything silently in the background whenever your computer wasn't busy. It would only ever pop up if it found a virus and it popped up a monthly summary once a month to show you general stats about your computer. It also automatically cleaned out all of your temp files and sped up your system every week, last I heard Norton doesn't empty all of your temp files, could have changed not sure.

I'm actually kind of disappointed Microsoft is discontinuing OneCare. It was a great product. But I just installed MSE and it is perfect. By far the lightest antivirus program today as far as system resources go. It's silent, automatic update and real time scanner, and it asks you to schedule an optional weekly scan. That's it. Zero annoyance. And it didn't slow my computers boot time by even a single second on Windows 7, and I actually timed it. I recommend you guys try it out. It's a great little antivirus, lighter than AVG and way less annoyance than AVG too.
 

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I have huge issues with both Norton and McAfee when it comes to protecting the typical user who doesn't know much about computers. First and foremost they are huge resource hogs, a lot of times they come with all of the switches turned on and really bog down the users system. The problem here is that typically half of the switches are for very specific tasks that the user may not even be doing which is wasted resources.

My next big beef with them is when the users subscription runs out for either of them they are screwed unless they renew it for a nice premium price. In some cases different features expire at different times which can be even more difficult of the typical user to understand.

My policy is to install free AV that I know they will always be able to get updates for and to inform them about common dangers of the web such as emails from Grandma for a million $'s when we all know Grandma doesn't own a computer.

The problem is people click on things they think are legit that infect their system. And its too bad that at the premium prices people play for AV suites they do not get any education on what to do and what not to do.

I run very minimal protection on my home system and have no problems.
 

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My eset nod32 subscription expires next month, so I might give this a shot. If it sucks, my usual standby for free AV these days is Avira.
 

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I use Nod32 and generally recommend it to other people, but I'd be willing to give this a shot just so I could see if it's worth recommending to people who aren't willing to pay for AV. I think it's great that MS is throwing another free AV product into the market. Hopefully if it works well enough they'll make it an automatic update for people with no AV at some point so we can get rid of some of these botnets that plague the internet. Of course if they do, I'm sure they'll get sued over it.
 

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[citation][nom]cregan89[/nom]OneCare didn't "fail". It just wasn't popular. Nobody ever actually tried it out. I used it as my antivirus solution and recommended it to all of my family and friends and customers (when I worked at a computer store). It was immensely less of a resource hog compared to Norton, McAfee, and Kaspersky, I never ran into any updating or installation issues, which Norton is absolutely terrible for, and it was very quiet as well. Never popped up with any annoying update screens or registration screens or subscription warnings or anything. It performed everything silently in the background whenever your computer wasn't busy. It would only ever pop up if it found a virus and it popped up a monthly summary once a month to show you general stats about your computer. It also automatically cleaned out all of your temp files and sped up your system every week, last I heard Norton doesn't empty all of your temp files, could have changed not sure.I'm actually kind of disappointed Microsoft is discontinuing OneCare. It was a great product. But I just installed MSE and it is perfect. By far the lightest antivirus program today as far as system resources go. It's silent, automatic update and real time scanner, and it asks you to schedule an optional weekly scan. That's it. Zero annoyance. And it didn't slow my computers boot time by even a single second on Windows 7, and I actually timed it. I recommend you guys try it out. It's a great little antivirus, lighter than AVG and way less annoyance than AVG too.[/citation]

I'm using the 2009 version of Norton Internet Security. And they have improved it very well. The program is about 60.5MB installed. And its way faster than the older one. You won't even noticed its running in the background. :)
 

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use Avast dude, I have used Inoculan/Mcaffee/symantec/nod32/kaspirsky/ etc... but Avast is the only one that really keeps system clean and low system resources. I hit ALOT of infected sites if ya know whatuh mean lol. It's not a heavyweight internet security suite but a lightweight applicaiton firewall with THE BEST AV I have run. Micro$oft well it's a first generation AV so they don't always get it right the first time out the gate. If M$ sticks with it they can and do come up with some good products.
 

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[citation][nom]cregan89[/nom]OneCare didn't "fail". It just wasn't popular. Nobody ever actually tried it out. I used it as my antivirus solution and recommended it to all of my family and friends and customers (when I worked at a computer store). It was immensely less of a resource hog compared to Norton, McAfee, and Kaspersky, I never ran into any updating or installation issues, which Norton is absolutely terrible for, and it was very quiet as well. Never popped up with any annoying update screens or registration screens or subscription warnings or anything. It performed everything silently in the background whenever your computer wasn't busy. It would only ever pop up if it found a virus and it popped up a monthly summary once a month to show you general stats about your computer. It also automatically cleaned out all of your temp files and sped up your system every week, last I heard Norton doesn't empty all of your temp files, could have changed not sure.I'm actually kind of disappointed Microsoft is discontinuing OneCare. It was a great product. But I just installed MSE and it is perfect. By far the lightest antivirus program today as far as system resources go. It's silent, automatic update and real time scanner, and it asks you to schedule an optional weekly scan. That's it. Zero annoyance. And it didn't slow my computers boot time by even a single second on Windows 7, and I actually timed it. I recommend you guys try it out. It's a great little antivirus, lighter than AVG and way less annoyance than AVG too.[/citation]

I beg to differ. OneCare was actually an inferior product. It had detection rates in the 86% area, which seems good, but it actually isn't, when other products score in in low 90%'s or even up to 96%-97%. And sometimes that all the difference it makes between having a clean, fully working or a completely infected computer.

I'm using Kaspersky Internet Security 2009 and I'm most pleased with it. Low on resources, fast, I even intalled it on a netbook running XP and it ran great! I used to have Norton Internet Security 2004, but then I ran into problems with Norton. Norton 360 simply wouldn't work properly with my computer. It turned itself off which was incomprehensible. It reamained opened in the tray, but it wasn't doing anything. I asked for a refund.

Then I got Panda Internet Security. It had 3 licenses, which was good, but I had two problems with it. It said it was compatible with Windows 98 SE, but, er... it wasn't really. Unless you liked to be surprised every now and then with error messages and a an automatic reboot. On the Windows XP machine I ran it, I didn't have any such problems, but they were a little dishonest in my humble opinion. I may know what I'm doing, but a cumputer illiterate might be alarmed to see that the suite has found a lot of spyware, when in reality it's just harmless cookies no other suite classifies as spyware. I don't even know if that's even good for their own reputation. On the one hand they can say "Our suite catcher more viruses than others. On the other hand people might ask "What is this firewall doing, if viruses keep coming in like this ?" Not to speak of the assistance. They did have phone assistance, but those guys were retarded. Really, they didn't know what they were doing, and in subsequent e-mails they didn'd even know how to write properly. Anyway, I didn't like this kind of approach and asked for a refund. And I got it.

I used AVG, which is good, but one day my mother came home with her USB pen containing a virus. AVG detected something, but couldn't erase it. Avast, on the other hand, did detect three variants of teh virus and was able to "kill" them all. I switched to Avast.

I do have AVG on my Windows 7 RC machine and it runs fine. I haven't tried to see if Avast is now officially working on Windows 7. Or at least working well if not officially.

On my main machine I run Kaspersky Internet Security though, best Suite so far.
 

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wait, computer enthusiasts use antivirus software? seriously? I haven't used an antivirus program in years, i find no reason to. I use Firefox, only install software from trusted websites, and only get torrents from places like Demonoid or public trackers like piratebay from trusted uploaders.

I can understand how the average consumer would benefit from something like this but anybody that has an inkling of common sense won't get spyware and crap like that. And in the very rare occasion that might happen, it is pretty easy to fix. I don't want to have a program running in the background constantly with a firewall causing all sorts of problems. It is just way easier to not have antivirus software.
 

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[citation][nom]NamelessTed[/nom]wait, computer enthusiasts use antivirus software? seriously? I haven't used an antivirus program in years, i find no reason to. I use Firefox, only install software from trusted websites, and only get torrents from places like Demonoid or public trackers like piratebay from trusted uploaders.I can understand how the average consumer would benefit from something like this but anybody that has an inkling of common sense won't get spyware and crap like that. And in the very rare occasion that might happen, it is pretty easy to fix. I don't want to have a program running in the background constantly with a firewall causing all sorts of problems. It is just way easier to not have antivirus software.[/citation]


Well, that it all very well, but hackers are trying to get into your system all the time if you don't have proper protection from a good firewall. I'll never forget the day when I had to reinstall Windows XP. SP2 was already out but my CD was the original one, without SP1. I didn't slipstream the thing, which I now would, but I wasn't familiar with it then. After I installed XP, the first thing that happened when I rebooted and went online - I just established the connection, I didn't even turn on IE or FF. I got that virus that would shut down you computer. Just like that. Yes, XP is allpatched now, but it's just a reminder that you should be protected.

As to antivirus - how do you handle when someone gives you a usb pen or a memory card with files you need/want? How do you know you're safe ? You don't scan them ? I mean, you may very well trust your friends and colleagues, but that is no guarantee the pen is virus free.
 
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under VirtualBox 64, vm1 Ubuntu 9.04 64 none
vm2 Win7 64 Avira Anti-Vir Classic
vm3 XP Pro SP3 (32-bit) also Anti-Vir
Host also runs Comodo firewall, the others native config
 

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I use Kaspersky and it's about as good as they come for keeping crap off your comp, but you will never leave it running if you want to play your favorite games, yeah watch your FPS drop like a rock. So i am really pulling for Morro to do a good job and go easy on the CPU, It's FREE!! and could use that money towards a new GPU every year!
 
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e-Eye Digital Security's "BLINK" personal, it is working the best on Window 7 RC, low overhead, and doesn't hose the thing up. I have used them all, Avast, Norton, NOD32, Panda, McAfee you name it I have tried it. OneCare worked pretty good and I could monitor other machines for screwed up anti-virus and firewall.

BLINK is the clear winner

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@tpi2007

Ya I know OneCare didn't have the highest detection rate when it was first released. But the second version was much better. It was pretty close to Norton and McAfee. But obviously if you're using a system with very important data, Kaspersky is by far the best antivirus program in terms of detection and removal rates. But Kaspersky's suite is not bad, but still a little heavy on resources. It's great for technical users, but for anybody without some pretty decent technical knowledge, Kaspersky has some pretty complicated settings whereas OneCare's default settings were perfect. Kaspersky is a pretty annoying too, always popping up little notifications and stuff. So ya, OneCare was an average user program, Kaspersky is for technical users.

And I know exactly what you mean about Norton. That program drove me nuts trying to set it up for customers. It just has so many issues. You're right, it will just stop working for no reason. And the dumbest thing is, it will tell you that it's off, but won't let you turn it back on. It's not like it completely crashed or something, it just turns all the protection off?!
 

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Hey, seeing as Win7 is a great OS already, this new free AV might actually work. I'll give it a shot soon, I'll see how it goes, especially against my AVG 8.5 Free.
 

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Don't need anti-virus. Don't look at porn or download crap online you substantially decrease your risk of getting a virus.
 
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