Report: Ultrabook Sales are on the Rise

[jdwii]

Microsoft$ucks3, if you read reviews on walmart and newegg of the people who bought a A8 llano laptop you would know your wrong about the no one games on a Igpu.

the only reason why people didn't is because they couldn't.

And remember the I7 ivy will cost 200+$ more then a A8 so yeah. And Intel's graphics drivers are a joke and everyone knows it they even had to delay their Atom once because of it.

"STILL BEATS THE AMD solution according to your own link."

Yes for a higher cost? If you want to spend above 700-650$ go with Intel if not Amd is a smarter choice and this is why Amd is taking Intel's market share. Read, Read and read some more reviews on the A8 llano at walmart/newegg/amazon/tiger and you will know many people are gaming on a Llano all of this for under 600$ something Intel can't do.

Again a trinity or llano will let you play almost any game and you can do this for 500$ or you can go with Intel and pay much more for 20-25% less performance in games on average according to anandtech if you only get 4000hd graphics.

Also the CPU is competitive with a I3 which is going to be its suggested pricing not a I7 this is why i hate anandtech they didn't even compare the A10 with a I3 or I5 i can't even get a I7 for less then 700$ were you can get a A8 for 500$ and a A10 around 650-700$ According to suggested pricing most likely the prices will go down to 550-650$.

Under most apps you wont even notice the Slower CPU where in gaming you could notice the slower gpu.

 

[Guest]

jdwii, I would notice a CPU that is 2 to 3x slower. Believe me!!! If one CPU does the task in 3 minutes and the other in 6 minutes, I'm thinking I'm going to notice. Heck, if one does it in 10 seconds and the other in 20 seconds, I'm going to notice! As far as noticing in games, it depends on which one. Also, it would have to be an FPS game. I'm not going to notice the difference in the Sims. Most FPS games are played with an add on card and that is a fact I'm sorry to tell you.

As far as competitive against I3 and I5, I'm not sure that is even true. Anand did an ultrabook review and it was still kicking the pants out of the top of the line reference AMD platform... a reference platform that is likely not what you will buy (that reference system was as souped up as they could make it... probably a lot more expensive than they are letting on).

17W I5 part: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5872/intel-dual-core-ivy-bridge-launch-and-ultrabook-review/3

5672 Intel low end i5 17W vs. 3325 AMD top of the line A10 - Still almost DOUBLE the performance

Again, the AMD system is just terribly outgunned in CPU performance. I have no idea why people keep saying that is not important. Those same people should just buy an ATOM and stick in a Kepler GPU and keep telling themselves that. CPUs still do most of your processing work and yes you will notice if everything runs at 1/2 speed to a 1/3 speed slower. Unless you are a turtle, you will notice.

It is just too big of a difference in CPU speed. I might not notice a huge difference between i7 and i5 unless I do intense work, but I would even notice a difference between i7 and i3 for most applications. Also, we have yet to see AMD's 17W part. They will have to significantly clock their iGPU down. They have been real slow to release it so I'm wondering if they are still are still trying to tweak things due to performance issues or just deciding to sell it off cheap.

 

[Idonno]

[citation][nom]DroKing[/nom]is amd verison out yet? Im not interested in intel at all.[/citation]
Yea! Who would want a better processor anyway!

 

[noblerabbit]

I slapped in my 'old' gen2 SSD 80GB into my 5 year old Acer $299 laptop, and upgraded to 8GB SODIMM, re-installed W7, my wife thanks me for a blazingly fast laptop.

 

[aracheb]

[citation][nom]Idonno[/nom]Yea! Who would want a better processor anyway![/citation]
i would like a better processor anyway.

but i need the OPEN-CL for video encoding and when I'm not working. Play some games. "Games" not on a browser.

Actually i doubted a lot since i have a Desktop with Intel now,i thought that the AMD graphics on the laptop was no good for rendering but i was surprise, i almost bought a Inter laptop with a discrete Nvidia Quadro, and it happens that the AMD apu is almost just as good for rendering as the discrete solution.

Don't hate me, i love Intel but i love my pocket a lot more and if i can get somewhat a performance within the acceptable vicinity and graphics performance for almost 30% of what i was going to pay for intel. I will love amd more.

By the way almost all 3d modeling and rendering software support opencl, those are the first to test any of this type of api and implement them.

 

[back_by_demand]

So if the higher priced Ultrabooks are having the highest increase in sales, then surely as a bouyant market sector that the Surface is aiming to be in then it should sell well. All the people who complain and say they don't want one are the same people that moan about expensive Ultrabooks for the same reasons.
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There is a market, people are buying into it, just because you don't doesn't mean it is a bad product.

 

[del35]

Wouldn't mind having one to put Ubuntu on it. Wipe off the MS infection is always the first thing I do with a new laptop if it isn't an Apple.

Most informed people think Apple is the infection. You sound like a moron.

 

[notsleep]

i'll wait for 'retina' like displays on windows before buying anymore notebook, ultra-book, or win8 tablet/surface. 😛

 

[djscribbles]

[citation][nom]ohim[/nom]too bad they all have to cope with that crap video card from intel[/citation]

Lenovo's U410 sports a GTX 610M; not really burning up any charts, but it's something

 

[ramcoza]

[citation][nom]aracheb[/nom]i would like a better processor anyway.but i need the OPEN-CL for video encoding and when I'm not working. Play some games. "Games" not on a browser.Actually i doubted a lot since i have a Desktop with Intel now,i thought that the AMD graphics on the laptop was no good for rendering but i was surprise, i almost bought a Inter laptop with a discrete Nvidia Quadro, and it happens that the AMD apu is almost just as good for rendering as the discrete solution.Don't hate me, i love Intel but i love my pocket a lot more and if i can get somewhat a performance within the acceptable vicinity and graphics performance for almost 30% of what i was going to pay for intel. I will love amd more. By the way almost all 3d modeling and rendering software support opencl, those are the first to test any of this type of api and implement them.[/citation]

Check this two configurations... Identical but CPUs.. ($45 difference)
http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/load_configuration.do?destination=review&config_id=7295812
http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/load_configuration.do?destination=review&config_id=7295834

You think you can play game on that AMD configuration only?
Cant play same game on this INTEL configuration?
Well I don't know actually which one will give higher frame-rates?
No open cl support?
Still that 30% graphics performance argument valid? If so, to which configuration?

 

[Idonno]

[citation][nom]aracheb[/nom]i would like a better processor anyway.but i need the OPEN-CL for video encoding and when I'm not working. Play some games. "Games" not on a browser.Actually i doubted a lot since i have a Desktop with Intel now,i thought that the AMD graphics on the laptop was no good for rendering but i was surprise, i almost bought a Inter laptop with a discrete Nvidia Quadro, and it happens that the AMD apu is almost just as good for rendering as the discrete solution.Don't hate me, i love Intel but i love my pocket a lot more and if i can get somewhat a performance within the acceptable vicinity and graphics performance for almost 30% of what i was going to pay for intel. I will love amd more. By the way almost all 3d modeling and rendering software support opencl, those are the first to test any of this type of api and implement them.[/citation]
No hate but, I couldn't resist the comment. LOL

 

[Wisecracker]

Check this two configurations... Identical but CPUs.. ($45 difference)
http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/load_configuration.do?destination=review&config_id=7295812
http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/load_configuration.do?destination=review&config_id=7295834

You think you can play game on that AMD configuration only?
Cant play same game on this INTEL configuration?
Well I don't know actually which one will give higher frame-rates?
No open cl support?
Still that 30% graphics performance argument valid? If so, to which configuration?

The issue with your comparison is the mobility Radeon (Turks-based) discreet is essentially the same chip as the APU graphics engine on Trinity -- the gaming performance difference between the two is not going to be substantial.

The true test between the two most likely will be seen in power consumption and battery life. A quad Trinity Thin is (roughly) 25w (+ ?w at 'gaming load') and the SB ULV 17w + ??? (15-20w?).

There are instances where Trinity demonstrates impressive efficiency -- not sure this would be one of them -- but you have to like the direction AMD is moving.

 

[eddieroolz]

If I was looking for one I'd buy an Ultrabook or Macbook Air now. It's very compelling.

 

[GreaseMonkey_62]

The ones I've seen are quite nice, so I had no doubt they would start to sell. However I was getting quite annoyed with the way Intel seemed to treat OEM's. "Do this, sell it cheaper, no we won't give you a price break." Like other people have already posted though, I'd be more interested in an AMD Ultrathin.

 

[Idonno]

Personally, I don't get these Ultrabook's regardless of manufacturer or CPU. The absence of an optical drive is a deal breaker for me.

IMHO the popularity of these is the cool factor but, how much more effort would it take to carry around a sleek notebook with an optical drive. It's not like the extra few ounces are going to kill you.

Sure some people don't need an optical drive very often but if you have to put everything on a thumb drive or hook up to an external optical drive first how cool is that?

Then there is the poor connectivity and/or the extra dongles that some of these need for full connectivity, again not cool!

I like to have everything there, on my notebook, when I need it, without having to hook up extra dongles or external drives. Now that's what I call cool!

There are some very nice sleek notebooks that fit the bill. Are they a little bigger than a Ultrabook? Well I guess that depends on how much crap you have to hook up or lug around to get it to do what you want.

I like ease-of-use and in my opinion Ultrabook's when compared to a good notebook are a fail!