Require aid in choosing a system


Aug 21, 2007
Hi guys :hello: , I have been away from the technology scene for about 1-2 years and just got back, I'm buying a new computer and wanted some feed back. All prices are before taxes.

option 1

AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 3800+ 2.0ghz
1024MB PC2-4200 DDR2 SDRAM
250GB SATA 7200RPM
NVIDIA GeForce 6150 LE
512KB+512KB L2 cache
Windows Vista Home Premium
2000MHz bus

$379.99 CAD

option 2
Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 1.86GHz
320GB 7200RPM SATA
Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950
2MB L2 cache
Windows Vista Home Premium
Up To 1066MHz bus

$449.99 CAD

option 3
Intel Pentium D 820 Dual Core 2.8GHz
250GB SATA (7200RPM)
ATI Radeon Xpress 200 With 256MB Shared
2 x 1MB L2 cache
Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005
800MHz bus

$449.99 CAD

option 4
AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core 3800+ 2.0 GHZ
200GB SATA (7200RPM)
NVIDIA GeForce 6150LE With 256MB Shared
2 x 512KB L2 cache
Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005
Up To 2000MHz

$379.99 CAD

(try to ignore the video cards as i will probably upgrade it later, and Hard drive size is not of concern to me)

As you can see I am on a budget (I already have a monitor). I use the PC for some gaming, nothing to hard core and some work. I keep the PC at optimum by tweaking windows and settings so they work fine. ALSO, I really want XP, i do not like windows vista at all (I have my reasons) and I will see if i can get XP on whichever PC i get (2 of them already come with it, the other 2 vista). So far i really like the PC with the Intel core 2 duo, but i don't know if that Processor is any good, and I am open to suggestions/advice and my mind can change.

Current games I am playing that are system resource intensive
Transformers (low system requirements, surprisingly)
Battlefield 2

Any other game installed has system requirements less than those games listed above.

Here are my questions,

1)Will the Intel core 2 duo E6300 (im not sure if thats dual core or not,) at 1.8ghz work fine with games that are slightly above the speed mark? like games that require 2.0 GHz?

2) Should I lean with Intel or AMD?

3)Should I lean towards the PC with the higher l2 cache or higher BUS (Intel's have higher cache-2mb, 800-1000mhz bus, while AMD has 512kb x2 cache, and 2000/ upto2000 mhz bus, what do they mean by "up to" anyways?)

Please don't recommend any other site or PC, I just want something amongst those 4.



Jan 31, 2006
Option 2 will out perform the others, better CPU and 2GB of RAM. I have a couple of the X2 3800 w the 6150 on board video for office machines and they are terrific but then they pretty much just run Office, Thunderbird, and Firefox.


Dec 15, 2004
Option 2 is the only one you should consider, the AMD systems are paired up with slower memory (DDR2 533) which really hurts AMD CPUs performance if it's under DDR2 800.

And since you've been away you probably don't know it, but one core of the dual core 1.86Ghz rapes 4Ghz Pentium 4s, so there's nothing to worry about, it's a great CPU.

One thing you'll have to consider is to buy a new Power Supply and a new Graphics card so you can play games. (OEMs put crap PSUs on their PCs that barely meet the minimum power requirements) I can think of a pretty decent quality FSP Group 500W unit ($65) and a Sapphire X1950 Pro video card ($140) in


Dec 4, 2006
What video card do you plan on getting?

All are totally worthless for gaming as is.

All the cpu's are fast. Worry about that last.

Get 2 GB RAM first and replace the crap power supply that will be in it.

Really your better off getting one from a system builder, it will cheaper in the long run.

The cpu, RAM and HDD are the only things worth keeping, the rest is garbage. I would just do it right the first time.