Rerolling charms - ilvl ranges?

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Hi,

most rerolling charms guides show the minimum ilvl for a specific affix.
So, a MF% small charms has minimum ilvl=61, wich also allows for res-all
charms and high (10-11) single resists.

Grand charms with +skills start at ilvl 50. Some higher affixes start at
ilvl 71 for GC's, does that mean I can use any GC from 50-69/70 to reroll
some skillers without increasing the gene pool?

So far, I've been using small charms with ilvl=61-69 and GC with 50-59?

And what do you do about these unwanted ones, i.e. while aiming for
skillers for my sorc I got these two GC:

- +6STR/+76AR/+9MaxD
- +85AR/1-32LightD

Wanted some SC with +res all and got:

- 5%MF/1-18LightD
- 7%MF/+14AR
- 20DEF/1-27LD

My problem is I have a large collection of charms, but not too many in
the proper ilvl ranges..

Thanx,

Oliver

 

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On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 07:06:41 +0100, Oliver Wenzel <ouuch@t-online.de>
wrote:

>Hi,
>
>most rerolling charms guides show the minimum ilvl for a specific affix.
>So, a MF% small charms has minimum ilvl=61, wich also allows for res-all
>charms and high (10-11) single resists.
>
Out of interest, where did you get the 61 from? Unless I'm reading it
wrong, Arreat Summit shows small charms with the "Fortune" and "Good
Luck" suffixes as ilvl 18 & 35 respectively (with Res-all at ilvl 25
and (10-11) single resists at ilvl 32.

>Grand charms with +skills start at ilvl 50. Some higher affixes start at
>ilvl 71 for GC's, does that mean I can use any GC from 50-69/70 to reroll
>some skillers without increasing the gene pool?
I'm new to the rerolling game, but from previous discussions I've
read, I think that's right - more choices equals less chance of
getting the mod(s) you're after, so you want a charm that's not
high-enough level for any affix higher than the one(s) you're after.

>My problem is I have a large collection of charms, but not too many in
>the proper ilvl ranges.
I think that, from the mlvls, NM Travincal is the place for GC at the
right level, and that seems to work. I've been having a go myself
since seeing your post; I ran the Council 30-40 times yesterday
evening with a Trapassin (not particularly loaded for MF), and turned
up a GC at what felt like around once every 5 or 6 runs. I cubed
three +skills charms up in the process with about half-a-mule worth of
pgems (including, to my delight, a +Traps as a reward!). I also found
a significant number of good quality and flawless gems in the process;
not enough to keep the addiction fuelled, perhaps, but I reckon I was
turning them up at least as fast as I normally manage in, say, Cow
runs.

Cheers - Ian

 

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Hi,

Ian Noble <fredd@clara.co.uk> wrote in
news:h3gmq0189j0ed8g0vmlijkvif74tlvo8ov@4ax.com:

> On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 07:06:41 +0100, Oliver Wenzel <ouuch@t-online.de>
> wrote:
>>most rerolling charms guides show the minimum ilvl for a specific
>>affix. So, a MF% small charms has minimum ilvl=61, wich also allows
>>for res-all charms and high (10-11) single resists.
>>
> Out of interest, where did you get the 61 from? Unless I'm reading it
> wrong, Arreat Summit shows small charms with the "Fortune" and "Good
> Luck" suffixes as ilvl 18 & 35 respectively (with Res-all at ilvl 25
> and (10-11) single resists at ilvl 32.

here's a link to an affix calculator. Just put in your cube recipe and
the ilvl and it will show available affixes and chances to get them.

http://www.diabloii.nu/affixcalc/

To get an MF%6-7 SC, it needs ilvl 61.

I made me a table showing # of affixes per ilvl range. At ilvl 61, there
are 65 affixes available on these small charms, and until ilvl 75, it
only goes up to 68 affixes.

For +skillers, it starts at ilvl 50 with 125 affixes and goes up to 131
at ilvl 79.

> I'm new to the rerolling game, but from previous discussions I've
> read, I think that's right - more choices equals less chance of
> getting the mod(s) you're after, so you want a charm that's not
> high-enough level for any affix higher than the one(s) you're after.

Yup, that's why I asked for that table. You only get 6 more possible
affixes from going from ilvl 50 to 79. Less than a 5% decrease in the
chance to roll one.
OTOH, res all small charms start at ilvl 54 with 57 affixes, but why
bother with these when you also the the MF chance at 61.
But if you desperately want SC's with 10-11% res on a single element, you
gotta stay below ilvl 54 to maximize the chance.

> three +skills charms up in the process with about half-a-mule worth of
> pgems (including, to my delight, a +Traps as a reward!). I also found
> a significant number of good quality and flawless gems in the process;
> not enough to keep the addiction fuelled, perhaps, but I reckon I was
> turning them up at least as fast as I normally manage in, say, Cow
> runs.

From what I've seen, +skillers get rolled much more often than these all
res small charms. And there's always a good chance to roll something else
that's really useful to one of your chars.

Here's a really nice discussion about this stuff. The guys gives very
good information about what charms are really worth keeping, even if you
don't need them right now.

http://forums.rpgforums.net/showthread.php?t=257640

BTW, ATMA (SP muling tool) shows the ilvl's and you could even sort them
into different stashes to easily recover the ones you want to reroll.

And as a side note, you can also reroll magical jewels with 3 PGems if
you are in need of a specific socket filler.

Regards,

Oliver

 

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On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 19:35:30 +0100, Oliver Wenzel <ouuch@t-online.de>
wrote:

>Hi,
>
>Ian Noble <fredd@clara.co.uk> wrote in
>news:h3gmq0189j0ed8g0vmlijkvif74tlvo8ov@4ax.com:
>
>> On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 07:06:41 +0100, Oliver Wenzel <ouuch@t-online.de>
>> wrote:
>>>most rerolling charms guides show the minimum ilvl for a specific
>>>affix. So, a MF% small charms has minimum ilvl=61, wich also allows
>>>for res-all charms and high (10-11) single resists.
>>>
>> Out of interest, where did you get the 61 from? Unless I'm reading it
>> wrong, Arreat Summit shows small charms with the "Fortune" and "Good
>> Luck" suffixes as ilvl 18 & 35
....should have been "18 & 33" - see below
>> respectively (with Res-all at ilvl 25
>> and (10-11) single resists at ilvl 32.
>
>here's a link to an affix calculator. Just put in your cube recipe and
>the ilvl and it will show available affixes and chances to get them.
>
>http://www.diabloii.nu/affixcalc/
>
>To get an MF%6-7 SC, it needs ilvl 61.
>
Not to be churlish, but that's a result throw up by unknown code, and
looks to be wildly incorrect. According to both the Arreat Summit
info, http://www.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/magic/smallcharms.shtml,
and the rpgforum thread you pointed at in your post, the "Good Luck"
(MF +6-7%) prefix is available on SC from ilvl 33 onwards. Or am I
misunderstanding something?

Cheers - Ian

 

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Hi,

Ian Noble <fredd@clara.co.uk> wrote in
news😛mepq0lkkvr5di5k0shn3g6unok0a1b2ho@4ax.com:

> On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 19:35:30 +0100, Oliver Wenzel <ouuch@t-online.de>
> wrote:
>>> Luck" suffixes as ilvl 18 & 35
> ...should have been "18 & 33" - see below
>>> respectively (with Res-all at ilvl 25
>>> and (10-11) single resists at ilvl 32.
>>
>>
> Not to be churlish, but that's a result throw up by unknown code, and
> looks to be wildly incorrect. According to both the Arreat Summit
> info, http://www.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/magic/smallcharms.shtml,
> and the rpgforum thread you pointed at in your post, the "Good Luck"
> (MF +6-7%) prefix is available on SC from ilvl 33 onwards. Or am I
> misunderstanding something?

its really confusing. The ?level that is listed on the AS, is an
intermediate level that is used in the following formula to produce the
ilvl needed:

----------------- Quote -------------------------------------------
> The guide on this site sais:
> "To get alvl=40 affixes, need charm of ilvl=54."
> How do i decide what ilvl i need (that means where to hunt for my
> charm), when i know the affix level. E.g. what ilvl do i need for an
> alvl 50 (==+ skill charm) and how do i compute the needed ilvl for a
> given alvl?

The oft-quoted formula:

if (Qlvl>ilvl) then {Ilvl=Qlvl}
if (magic_lvl>0) then {Alvl=ilvl+magic_lvl}
else
{
if (Ilvl<(99-qlvl/2))
then {Alvl=Ilvl-Qlvl/2}
else {Alvl=2*ilvl-99}
}

Grand charms are simple: qlvl=1, so alvl=ilvl.

Small charms are qlvl=28, so:
for ilvl 1-27, alvl = 14
for ilvl 28-84, alvl = ilvl - 14
for ilvl 85+, alvl = (2 * ilvl) - 99

Large charms are qlvl=14, so:
for ilvl 1-13, alvl = 7
for ilvl 14-91, alvl = ilvl - 7
for ilvl 92+, alvl = (2 * ilvl) - 99
----------------- Qoute -----------------------------------