Response time on a 60 hz monitor?

[WizKimi]

iI read somewhere that for a 60 hz monitor response time is usually irrelevant. However i will be doing FPS gaming such as battlefield, cs go and other games like gta 5, arkham knight etc. One of the cheapest and best looking monitors i could find was the BENQ VW2245z.

Response Time(Tr+Tf) typ.
25ms, 6ms (GTG)

What is Tr+Tf? Im guessing black to white time? Will i see ghosting effect at this response time?

Link to monitor : http://www.benq.com/product/monitor/VW2245Z/specifications/

 

[gamingwoop]

People only go by GTG time. 6ms is fine for anything other than pro gaming, regardless of refresh rate.

 

[Kiril1512]

My 60Hz monitor have 1ms response time...

 

[gamingwoop]

Yeah the lower the better but it doesn't matter too much in reality.

 

[DasHotShot]

You could get a "blurring" effect and it can wear on you when playing FPS. Not at 6ms though.

I always find it surprising people are willing to cheap out on the thing they look at the most. Your entire gaming experience is brought to you on your monitor.

Why get a 60hz, bad response, ugly tn panel which essentially undermines your entire gaming build you bought to push out the titles you want to play?

would recommend a rethink and going for something a little nicer like ips or anything non TN really.

Also for FPS...you really want high Hz not 60.

 

[WizKimi]

And whats your tr+tf response time kiril?

 

[WizKimi]

@Dashasshot

I see your point but budget is tight and can only afford is 60hz monitor. However the aforementioned monitor has a VA panel instead of the TN. I was previously leaning towards DELL S2240l with an IPS panel, had to drop it because of glare and low response time on IPS panel. My question still remains, what is tr + tf and how does it affect 60 hz monitors

 

[Suzuki@1473780084@1473780163]

You will not find ghosting caused by response time in any modern monitor, this holds true for all 3 common panels (TN/VA/IPS). Ghosting is primarily caused by low refresh rates (60); which is why 120 and 144 Hz were created, to reduce this effect. Not a single LCD is ghost free. Response times are required to be lower on a higher refresh rate because when you incresae the refresh rate you will have faster updated frames. On a 60 Hz panel everything below 16.6 is great, and is enough to complete the frame before the user can see it on screen.

1 / 60 = 0.016
1 / 120 = 0.008
1 / 144 = 0.006

As you can see, it's a no brainer why lower response times are required at the higher refresh rates. This is currently used to market their displays, because lower is better, right? Wrong. If in reality 1 ms was BTB (it isn't), then a 1 ms response time would only be useful in... You guessed it, 1000 Hz panels. Something else that I have to mention is that a lot of people confuse response time for input lag. Manufacturers will never list this spec, however. What's important here is that a lot of people (even today) think that IPS panels suffer from high input lag. This is not true, and has not been for at least 3 years now, they're all around 9 to 10 ms, TN to IPS. If you prefer better looking colors, viewing angles, and contrast- make no mistake. Buy a IPS panel.

 

[WizKimi]

You will not find ghosting caused by response time in any modern monitor, this holds true for all 3 common panels (TN/VA/IPS). Ghosting is primarily caused by low refresh rates (60); which is why 120 and 144 Hz were created, to reduce this effect. Not a single LCD is ghost free. Response times are required to be lower on a higher refresh rate because when you incresae the refresh rate you will have faster updated frames. On a 60 Hz panel everything below 16.6 is great, and is enough to complete the frame before the user can see it on screen.

1 / 60 = 0.016
1 / 120 = 0.008
1 / 144 = 0.006

As you can see, it's a no brainer why lower response times are required at the higher refresh rates. This is currently used to market their displays, because lower is better, right? Wrong. If in reality 1 ms was BTB (it isn't), then a 1 ms response time would only be useful in... You guessed it, 1000 Hz panels. Something else that I have to mention is that a lot of people confuse response time for input lag. Manufacturers will never list this spec, however. What's important here is that a lot of people (even today) think that IPS panels suffer from high input lag. This is not true, and has not been for at least 3 years now, they're all around 9 to 10 ms, TN to IPS. If you prefer better looking colors, viewing angles, and contrast- make no mistake. Buy a IPS panel.

Couldnt have answered any better, thanks a lot! This post should be sticky'd somewhere for consumer awareness