Restore won't work using windows 10

[frustrated947]

When I create a restores point manually. looks like it worked fine. When I try to restore to "any" point I get a response that restore could not restore files. There is no error code, just the following:
Source: %systemRoot%
Destination: ComPlusStaging

I have no idea what this means. I have C: turned on for restoring and set to 10% or about 21 gig of space.
In services i have:
Volume Shadow Copy set to automatic
Task Scheduler set to automatic
Microsft shoftware shadow copy provider service set to automatic.
I didn't see anything for system restore.
Any idea what the problem is. I may need my restore some time in the future.
Thanks
I wanted to upload a file but could not figure out how to do it.

 

[TbsToy]

Are using a SSD? Some SSDs don't work well with restore points. I had that problem with Samsung drives. Now I have a separate drive that runs on a weekly schedule for an image back up. That works well for restoring the system.
W.P.

 

[frustrated947]

No SSD just SATA. I did however in march create a recovery disk, and I made an Image back up to my external drive. They both saved good with no errors. However when I put in my recovery disk, it didn't load anything. Question:
Do I have to do something in my legacy bios to read the DVD i save the recovery disk to? I have a D: DVD and E: BLu ray.
After if if the recovery disks loads, how to I start the Image back up, and does the image back up save "ALL" my programs also. I have all my data saved on my External drive, so I can bring that back with no problem. If I create an image disk, lets say once a month, and need a restore to that image disk, will this work fine? Thanks for all your help, I don't know what happened to my restore operation, plus my msinfo32 doesn't work. Wish I could load up my windows 10 again without losing programs I have, maybe this would bring back those two operations. Is there a way to "install" critical programs or repair the windows 10 files? How can I schedule an image backup automatically? Lots of questions, but it would surely help me out and probably others with this problem. Thanks

 

[frustrated947]

If I do an image back up to my external drive, does it over write the existing image back up, or do I have to delete those files first?

 

[wpgwpg]

I use Easeus Todo Backup Free to backup my system. If I can't boot Windows, I boot from the CD I made with it and do the restore. That's been working very well with no problems for the last 5 years. YMMV.

Good luck.

 

[frustrated947]

Thanks, I'll look it to that. Do I have to make a "new " repair disk every time I make an image backup, and when I back up to my external drive, does it "over write" my old image back up, or do I have to delete the old files first, then do a image back up. Thanks Do you have have a link to Easeus todo back up"

 

[LukeFatwalker]

In all fairness, Windows System Restore is incredibly fickle and fragile these days. I had a disk defragmenter erase all my restore points once. It's just nature of the beast, if you're going to use it, be prepared that there's going to be a lot of inexplicable errors.

Best I can recommend is to move away from Sys Restore. There's programs out there like Comodo Time Machine and Rollback Rx that are doing what Sys Restore does but more reliably.

 

[frustrated947]

Thanks, I'll look into those programs above.

 

[frustrated947]

I looked at "rollback RX" on you tube, looks like what I need. I looked at the roll back "pro", do you know the site of the free ware of this, and is it for only 30 days or so? Thanks.

 

[LukeFatwalker]

I looked at "rollback RX" on you tube, looks like what I need. I looked at the roll back "pro", do you know the site of the free ware of this, and is it for only 30 days or so? Thanks.

Yeah program is good but their site is kinda trash lol. Here's the freeware: http://www.horizondatasys.com/en/products_and_solutions.aspx?ProductId=40#Features

EDIT: the freeware is unlimited time for usage, I tried it and noticed you can only take 7 snapshots and it takes one when you boot up and if you install/update something. Can be a pain, but for free if you're willing to delete them to make room. In earnest I only use the baseline and the next 2-3 snapshots personally.

The pro edition demos for 2 weeks (14 days) if I'm not mistaken.

 

[Colif]

I asked a question about System restore recently and one responder said Microsoft is trying to move away from using it as its not as good as an actual backup and doesn't remember everything so if you uninstall programs and then roll back, you can create a bigger headache than what you already had before. The question came about as its really well hidden in win 10 and you need to tie a rope to a tree and keep hold of it to make sure you can find way back out of the steps you need to make to reach it.

Its not turned on by default in win 10, its why I stopped suggesting people try it as a way to fix problems.

 

[LukeFatwalker]

I asked a question about System restore recently and one responder said Microsoft is trying to move away from using it as its not as good as an actual backup and doesn't remember everything so if you uninstall programs and then roll back, you can create a bigger headache than what you already had before. The question came about as its really well hidden in win 10 and you need to tie a rope to a tree and keep hold of it to make sure you can find way back out of the steps you need to make to reach it.

Its not turned on by default in win 10, its why I stopped suggesting people try it as a way to fix problems.

I've straight up asked employees from Microsoft what is the 'best practise' for Windows System Restore and I was floored when they said 'Replace it'. I've had them even recommend Rollback rx which I thought was hilarious. Microsoft not even recommending their own services. Strange.

I don't even think it's Micosoft's fault. As new technologies emerge and we have more stable solutions, it's almost there just for legacy users who hold nostalgia for it.

 

[wpgwpg]

If you make a backup image with one of the good 3rd party backup/restore programs to an external hard drive, that image is good until you delete it. If you set it up to make X no. of images automatically, it will delete the oldest image when you go to create image X+1. The boot CD you make doesn't have to be created but once unless you lose it or it becomes damaged.

Good luck.

 

[frustrated947]

Do you believe that Microsoft recommend rollback rx over theirs, what a joke. I'm looking into Rollback RX, If I saw it right above, you can save "several" restore point with the "free" and not the pro "demo"? It is for windows 10, isn't it? I've created an image back up with a "repair" disk. I guess you have to use the repair, or is it "recovery" disk to start the pc with the DVD or CD as start up drive in bios. I don't understand though, using windows 10 "create an image", do I have to delete the old one, or does it just over write the old one with a new image. Can I use the same recover or repair disk, or do I have to make a new recovery disk each time. I'm kind of new, so that's why I'm confused. I think I'll download the Roll Back RX to see how it works. My restore sub directory is now corrupted, does roll back rx use this for anything, or does it use it's own software to create a restore point. I also don't understand what is baseline vs anything else in roll back rx? Lots of questions, isn't it. Thanks for your help.

 

[frustrated947]

I looked at "rollback RX" on you tube, looks like what I need. I looked at the roll back "pro", do you know the site of the free ware of this, and is it for only 30 days or so? Thanks.

Yeah program is good but their site is kinda trash lol. Here's the freeware: http://www.horizondatasys.com/en/products_and_solutions.aspx?ProductId=40#Features

EDIT: the freeware is unlimited time for usage, I tried it and noticed you can only take 7 snapshots and it takes one when you boot up and if you install/update something. Can be a pain, but for free if you're willing to delete them to make room. In earnest I only use the baseline and the next 2-3 snapshots personally.

The pro edition demos for 2 weeks (14 days) if I'm not mistaken.

Does it work with window 10, I've seen on their site that someone had problems with windows 10.

 

[frustrated947]

What is the baseline vs snapshot?

 

[LukeFatwalker]

Do you believe that Microsoft recommend rollback rx over theirs, what a joke. I'm looking into Rollback RX, If I saw it right above, you can save "several" restore point with the "free" and not the pro "demo"? It is for windows 10, isn't it? I've created an image back up with a "repair" disk. I guess you have to use the repair, or is it "recovery" disk to start the pc with the DVD or CD as start up drive in bios. I don't understand though, using windows 10 "create an image", do I have to delete the old one, or does it just over write the old one with a new image. Can I use the same recover or repair disk, or do I have to make a new recovery disk each time. I'm kind of new, so that's why I'm confused. I think I'll download the Roll Back RX to see how it works. My restore sub directory is now corrupted, does roll back rx use this for anything, or does it use it's own software to create a restore point. I also don't understand what is baseline vs anything else in roll back rx? Lots of questions, isn't it. Thanks for your help.

Tis the truth!

Baseline as far as I can tell is the initial snapshot taken on install. Snapshots are all ones you take afterwards.

It shouldn't use the restore sub directory, but I'm not 100% confident on that.

EDIT: I'm using it on Windows 10 and it works fine!

 

[frustrated947]

Ok, I understand, I just got a message back from rollback rx, they said it should be installed on the following:

it is recommended you install RollBack Rx on a clean system state first.

I'm confused about that statement, do you understand what they meant?
Thanks

 

[frustrated947]

Why am I having trouble signing on, It rejects it, then it goes into the forums?

Also, I downloaded the rollback rx, windows 10 didn't want to install it, because it didn't recognize the app. I installed it anyway. Is horizon a good company? Lets hope it all works well. I tried to take a snapshot after it was installed, and it work good. Will I see the rollback prompt every time now when I boot up? Can turn this off so it boots up faster? Thanks

 

[frustrated947]

I now have a new icon in my system tray, can I disable that from my start up in msconfig, I don't want it there.

 

[LukeFatwalker]

Ok, I understand, I just got a message back from rollback rx, they said it should be installed on the following:

it is recommended you install RollBack Rx on a clean system state first.

I'm confused about that statement, do you understand what they meant?
Thanks

While I'm not 100% as I'm unsure the context, they probably mean you should install Rollback on a system that has no issues and is free of viruses and the like. I can get that too because the program restores u to a previous point and if that point isn't free of viruses it'll take you right into a bad system.

I now have a new icon in my system tray, can I disable that from my start up in msconfig, I don't want it there.

Depending on your OS you should have a tray icon area where you can indicate in Control Panel which tray icons show.

Why am I having trouble signing on, It rejects it, then it goes into the forums?

Also, I downloaded the rollback rx, windows 10 didn't want to install it, because it didn't recognize the app. I installed it anyway. Is horizon a good company? Lets hope it all works well. I tried to take a snapshot after it was installed, and it work good. Will I see the rollback prompt every time now when I boot up? Can turn this off so it boots up faster? Thanks

I'll say yeah they are. I've had issues in the past but it's never been anything I haven't been able to resolve either through their tech support or through 3rd party forums.

I don't think u can turn it off, but you can disable the snapshot deletion and defragmenting in the settings so it won't do that on bootup. You'll still want to do these functions but may want to do them while in Windows. Otherwise you'll fill the hard drive with snapshots!

 

[frustrated947]

I get a "rollback rx" splash screen before I get the windows splash screen, is this normal, why does this do this? Looks like everything is working ok, but it seems like my programs load slower after a snapshot, I just shut down, and re-boot, seems to be ok then. Maybe it's using all my cache to make the snapshot. Not sure, Thanks

 

[LukeFatwalker]

I get a "rollback rx" splash screen before I get the windows splash screen, is this normal, why does this do this? Looks like everything is working ok, but it seems like my programs load slower after a snapshot, I just shut down, and re-boot, seems to be ok then. Maybe it's using all my cache to make the snapshot. Not sure, Thanks

This is normal. Part of the reason myself and others are using Rollback over WSR is that it's working with your boot manager so that's why you see it at bootup. If you press the Home key as it's loading there's a basic menu with a few cool functions. If you get a BSOD you just tap the Home key and can load into another snapshot. WSR has this as well (pre-boot options).

Glad it's working for you. I've never experienced slowdown. You could submit a ticket to their techs and see what they say. Could be a service or config that's causing this. I'm sure you'd like to have it fixed, having to reboot everytime could get to be a pain in the arce.

 

[frustrated947]

Glad to hear splash screen doesn't hurt. I did notice today, when I booted up, it acted like there wasn't enough memory on my unit, I have 12 gig. Is rollback rx maybe defragging on boot up? I shut it down then re-started, and it booted up fast. I'm thinking roll back had something to do with the slow boot up. I'm making a snapshot every other day or so. On the free, it looks like it will remove the oldest due to it only saving 7 snapshots, that's ok. If the system isn't working withing 7 snapshots, I have a real problem. I like it very much. Thanks for the info.

 

[frustrated947]

Just one question.
I saw in the advanced settings, that I can uncheck defrag on boot up. Will everything in rollback rx still make a snapshot without any problem? Why does it need to defrag on boot up?
Thanks
I like the program very well, but I just need to understand it...