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ThatSourMelon

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I'm helping my friend pick out parts for his first PC build, and I just wanted an outside opinion on the parts I've picked out: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/ThatSourMelon/saved/mqWwzy He has a tight budget of $747 (including the monitor). Is there anything I'm missing/incompatible, I double-checked the motherboard, it supports 9th gen out-of-the-box, and the reason I went intel i3 and not ryzen is that i3 is so much cheaper than ryzen 3 processors and has slightly better gaming performance, and he will be mostly gaming and because the motherboard is cheaper. A few things I'm not so sure about is that the motherboard only supports up to 2666mhz ram (it supports faster, but it will slow it down to 2666mhz), but I heard there is barely a difference between 2666mhz and faster. I'm also not sure about the WIFI adapter, I couldn't find a motherboard with built-in wifi at that price point. Anyway, thought? Anyways I could make it cheaper or suggestions? And how easy is it to build a system like this? This is his first build. Also slightly off-topic question, does the stock cooler with the i3 come with thermal paste? I couldn't find anything about that.
 

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You can do so much better for a little bit more. Much better CPU, larger/faster SSD, case comes with 4 fans & a Freesync monitor.

PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($167.00 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($72.99 @ Best Buy)
Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial P1 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($59.95 @ B&H)
Video Card: ASRock Radeon RX 570 4 GB Phantom Gaming D Video Card ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Aerocool Aero One Mini Eclipse MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($51.54 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM (2015) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($73.98 @ Newegg)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN881ND PCIe x1 802.11a/b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter ($17.41 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Acer V227Q Abmipx 21.5" 1920x1080 75 Hz Monitor ($121.18 @ Amazon)
Total: $754.03
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-04 15:26 EDT-0400


A quad core is going to be very limiting for gaming so the 9100 isn't a good choice, plus it has no upgrade path.

As for building it's fairly easy to do and there are a ton of guides out there.
 
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You can do so much better for a little bit more. Much better CPU, larger/faster SSD, case comes with 4 fans & a Freesync monitor.

PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($167.00 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($72.99 @ Best Buy)
Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial P1 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($59.95 @ B&H)
Video Card: ASRock Radeon RX 570 4 GB Phantom Gaming D Video Card ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Aerocool Aero One Mini Eclipse MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($51.54 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM (2015) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($73.98 @ Newegg)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN881ND PCIe x1 802.11a/b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter ($17.41 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Acer V227Q Abmipx 21.5" 1920x1080 75 Hz Monitor ($121.18 @ Amazon)
Total: $754.03
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-04 15:26 EDT-0400


A quad core is going to be very limiting for gaming so the 9100 isn't a good choice, plus it has no upgrade path.

As for building it's fairly easy to do and there are a ton of guides out there.
 
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You can do so much better for a little bit more. Much better CPU, larger/faster SSD, case comes with 4 fans & a Freesync monitor.

PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($167.00 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($72.99 @ Best Buy)
Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial P1 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($59.95 @ B&H)
Video Card: ASRock Radeon RX 570 4 GB Phantom Gaming D Video Card ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Aerocool Aero One Mini Eclipse MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($51.54 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM (2015) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($73.98 @ Newegg)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN881ND PCIe x1 802.11a/b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter ($17.41 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Acer V227Q Abmipx 21.5" 1920x1080 75 Hz Monitor ($121.18 @ Amazon)
Total: $754.03
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-04 15:26 EDT-0400


A quad core is going to be very limiting for gaming so the 9100 isn't a good choice, plus it has no upgrade path.

As for building it's fairly easy to do and there are a ton of guides out there.
Damn. That's a huge upgrade at $10 more. I'll be sure to ask you guys once I finally get a Ryzen build...

And I can attest to building being super easy, I was pretty paranoid I was going to mess something up when I built my "first" PC two weeks ago (more like transferring some parts from a prebuilt to a better case), but I messed nothing up and now I have the system of my dreams. Read the manual, don't rush it, and be sure to ask for help here if you're stuck.
 
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And I can attest to building being super easy, I was pretty paranoid I was going to mess something up when I built my "first" PC two weeks ago (more like transferring some parts from a prebuilt to a better case), but I messed nothing up and now I have the system of my dreams. Read the manual, don't rush it, and be sure to ask for help here if you're stuck.
I definently second taking your time when building as it's easy to overlook something (usually minor) that can cause frustrations later on.
 
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ThatSourMelon

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You can do so much better for a little bit more. Much better CPU, larger/faster SSD, the case comes with 4 fans & a Freesync monitor.

PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($167.00 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($72.99 @ Best Buy)
Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial P1 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($59.95 @ B&H)
Video Card: ASRock Radeon RX 570 4 GB Phantom Gaming D Video Card ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Aerocool Aero One Mini Eclipse MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($51.54 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM (2015) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($73.98 @ Newegg)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN881ND PCIe x1 802.11a/b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter ($17.41 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Acer V227Q Abmipx 21.5" 1920x1080 75 Hz Monitor ($121.18 @ Amazon)
Total: $754.03
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-04 15:26 EDT-0400


A quad-core is going to be very limiting for gaming so the 9100 isn't a good choice, plus it has no upgrade path.

As for the building, it's fairly easy to do and there are a ton of guides out there.
Thx, but for one, I heard that the R5 3600 and Rx 570 4gb would be a huge bottleneck and that the Rx 570 pairs best with the i3 9100f. Two, the monitor is not freesync, and I heard that it's worth investing in the 24" monitor (plus the one I picked out is curved and has speakers). My friend said he wasn't thinking about upgradeability, he might in 3-4 years, so not much of an upgrade path on any processor. The case you picked out is a mini-tower, and slightly cheaper, but I would prefer the mid-tower and ATX for the more airflow and extra room, also the case has a pretty imbalanced airflow and it would cause a lot of dust.
 

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Thx, but for one, I heard that the R5 3600 and Rx 570 4gb would be a huge bottleneck and that the Rx 570 pairs best with the i3 9100f. Two, the monitor is not freesync, and I heard that it's worth investing in the 24" monitor (plus the one I picked out is curved and has speakers). My friend said he wasn't thinking about upgradeability, he might in 3-4 years, so not much of an upgrade path on any processor. The case you picked out is a mini-tower, and slightly cheaper, but I would prefer the mid-tower and ATX for the more airflow and extra room, also the case has a pretty imbalanced airflow and it would cause a lot of dust.
Let me guess, you heard that via some sort of bottleneck calculator? Unless your friend enjoys playing older games the 9100F 4 cores are going to be very limiting and would still get outperformed by the 3600. If he/you prefer Intel then go Cometlake as the CPU's are hyperthreaded.

Yes the monitor is Freesync and built in speakers. It may not have a curve (pointless on a small monitor) and be slightly smaller but having Freesync does help with any FPS dips and screen tearing which will bring a better gaming experience.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GTVG3C/acer-v227q-abmipx-215-1920x1080-75-hz-monitor-umwv7aaa02

The case is mesh on the top, hotter air will exhaust from the case without added fans but it does allow for them if needed.

If you want Intel then get something like this when the i3-10100 is available.

PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: Intel Core i3-10100 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor
Motherboard: ASRock H410M-HDV/M.2 Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard ($64.98 @ Amazon)
Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 CL16 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $124.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-04 16:07 EDT-0400
 
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Let me guess, you heard that via some sort of bottleneck calculator? Unless your friend enjoys playing older games the 9100F 4 cores are going to be very limiting and would still get outperformed by the 3600. If he/you prefer Intel then go Cometlake as the CPU's are hyperthreaded.

Yes the monitor is Freesync and built in speakers. It may not have a curve (pointless on a small monitor) and be slightly smaller but having Freesync does help with any FPS dips and screen tearing which will bring a better gaming experience.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GTVG3C/acer-v227q-abmipx-215-1920x1080-75-hz-monitor-umwv7aaa02

The case is mesh on the top, hotter air will exhaust from the case without added fans but it does allow for them if needed.

If you want Intel then get something like this when the i3-10100 is available.

PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: Intel Core i3-10100 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor
Motherboard: ASRock H410M-HDV/M.2 Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard ($64.98 @ Amazon)
Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 CL16 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $124.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-04 16:07 EDT-0400
Ok, Thanks for your help!
 

WildCard999

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Ok, Thanks for your help!
You're welcome. The only thing to check with this build, forgot to mention it above was to make sure the board ships with a newer BIOS that supports the 3600. The required BIOS for that board is F40. Another route is getting a MSI B450 MAX board but it doesn't appear to have many available currently.

Or wait for that i3 Cometlake to be available.
 
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You're welcome. The only thing to check with this build, forgot to mention it above was to make sure the board ships with a newer BIOS that supports the 3600. The required BIOS for that board is F40. Another route is getting a MSI B450 MAX board but it doesn't appear to have many available currently.

Or wait for that i3 Cometlake to be available.
It doesn't, thx for telling me! I replaced it with a
Although it shares bandwidth with the SATA ports which means no storage upgradability. The budget has expanded enough and I don't think he can spend any more, but if you have another board in mind that's cheaper and works be my guest.
 

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