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I reviewed the work of interactive fiction titled 2112. The setting of
the story is not very original, placing you in a world much the same
as the one George Orwell established in his novel, 1982.
The Game takes place in the year 2112 and for some reason or another
the "Temple of Syrinx" and it's priests have seized control. All Forms
of art, music and individualism are outlawed; the people live in a
perfectly communistic state.
2112 had good points and bad points. I liked how the guards changed
their actions depending on how frequently you passed them or how long
you stayed in their area. A guard would go from giving you a dirty
look to pointing a gun at you and eventually shooting you.
A couple negative aspects of the game include poor descriptions of
locations. One is forced to randomly enter directions to see if there
is an alley or side area not revealed otherwise. Also you are
introduced to a very helpful character with no background; why he is
helping or how he knows your character is anyone's guess. The biggest
downfall of the game is easily the fact that it can't be beaten. Your
character's objective is to blow up the computers in the temple,
forcing you to kill the priests in the room before it. Only problem is
that on your way back through that room the "dead" priests find a way
to open fire, killing you.
If 2112 became beatable and had a little more background added it
could be a very enjoyable game. However, as it is, I would not
recommend it to a friend.
 
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In article <ef7213f2.0409141106.628af813@posting.google.com>,
want2bangshakira@yahoo.com says...
> I reviewed the work of interactive fiction titled 2112. The setting of
> the story is not very original, placing you in a world much the same
> as the one George Orwell established in his novel, 1982.
> The Game takes place in the year 2112 and for some reason or another
> the "Temple of Syrinx" and it's priests have seized control. All Forms
> of art, music and individualism are outlawed; the people live in a
> perfectly communistic state.

I get the sneaking suspicion that Weidenborner, C. Syphrit, Rrilltrae,
Charles McLaud and Aaronin are all the same person. Not that I suppose
this matters but it seems rather odd. Why all the different names?

-Al
 
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Weidenborner wrote:
> I reviewed the work of interactive fiction titled 2112. The setting of
> the story is not very original, placing you in a world much the same
> as the one George Orwell established in his novel, 1982.

1982? You're 2 off there.
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"Al Arduengo" <a-arduengo2@ti.com> wrote in message
> I get the sneaking suspicion that Weidenborner, C. Syphrit, Rrilltrae,
> Charles McLaud and Aaronin are all the same person. Not that I suppose
> this matters but it seems rather odd. Why all the different names?
>
> -Al

They are students of a class. They don't seem to have the same style
of writing.

Kevin Venzke
 
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In article <ZPJ1d.591046$Gx4.73401@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
stepjakk@yahooo.frr says...
>
> "Al Arduengo" <a-arduengo2@ti.com> wrote in message
> > I get the sneaking suspicion that Weidenborner, C. Syphrit, Rrilltrae,
> > Charles McLaud and Aaronin are all the same person. Not that I suppose
> > this matters but it seems rather odd. Why all the different names?
> >
> > -Al
>
> They are students of a class. They don't seem to have the same style
> of writing.
>
> Kevin Venzke
>
>
>

Shows my ignorance. I found them all to have very similar styles of
writing.
 
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"Al Arduengo" <a-arduengo2@ti.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1bb22442a5584128989687@news.ti.com...
> In article <ZPJ1d.591046$Gx4.73401@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
> stepjakk@yahooo.frr says...
> >
> > "Al Arduengo" <a-arduengo2@ti.com> wrote in message
> > > I get the sneaking suspicion that Weidenborner, C. Syphrit, Rrilltrae,
> > > Charles McLaud and Aaronin are all the same person. Not that I
suppose
> > > this matters but it seems rather odd. Why all the different names?
> > >
> >
> > They are students of a class. They don't seem to have the same style
> > of writing.
>
> Shows my ignorance. I found them all to have very similar styles of
> writing.

Well, IMHO, they all sound a little like "academese", so that's probably
what you're picking up on.

And, also IMHO, they (the people & their reviews) are very welcome here. I
love reading reviews. Thanks guys, and my thanks to Steve Breslin (your
professor, IIRC) for the idea.

--
Daphne
 
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In article <2qrgoiF12vdpaU1@uni-berlin.de>, cendare@hotmail.com says...
snip
> > Shows my ignorance. I found them all to have very similar styles of
> > writing.
>
> Well, IMHO, they all sound a little like "academese", so that's probably
> what you're picking up on.
>
> And, also IMHO, they (the people & their reviews) are very welcome here. I
> love reading reviews. Thanks guys, and my thanks to Steve Breslin (your
> professor, IIRC) for the idea.
>
>

By all means they are welcome! I didn't mean to imply otherwise. I was
merely curious about the use of multiple names used to post reviews when
I suspected they were all the same reviewer. My mistake.

I will now retire to a private room in which I will remove my foot from
my mouth.

Cheers!
 
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On or about 9/17/2004 8:04 AM, Carolyn Magruder did proclaim:

> I thought about listing a few other artists whose work would make
> interesting IF (in my opinion), but I realized it would closely
> resemble a list of my favorite artists, and I suppose everyone thinks
> that their favorite artists' songs would make strong IF if adequately
> converted into the new medium.

My first thought was to make a list of "concept albums", but then I
noticed that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_concept_albums doesn't
include anything by Rush.
 
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Al Arduengo <a-arduengo2@ti.com> wrote:

>In article <2qrgoiF12vdpaU1@uni-berlin.de>, cendare@hotmail.com says...
>snip
>> > Shows my ignorance. I found them all to have very similar styles of
>> > writing.
>>
>> Well, IMHO, they all sound a little like "academese", so that's probably
>> what you're picking up on.
>>
>> And, also IMHO, they (the people & their reviews) are very welcome here. I
>> love reading reviews. Thanks guys, and my thanks to Steve Breslin (your
>> professor, IIRC) for the idea.

And they are different from the usual style, perhaps, at least
partly, because of the academese.

>By all means they are welcome! I didn't mean to imply otherwise. I was
>merely curious about the use of multiple names used to post reviews when
>I suspected they were all the same reviewer. My mistake.
>
>I will now retire to a private room in which I will remove my foot from
>my mouth.

I want to watch you try to get to that private room when you
still have one of your feet, ah, unavailable for normal use. <BEG>

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

Computerese Irregular Verb Conjugation:
I have preferences.
You have biases.
He/She has prejudices.
 
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On 2004-09-17, Carolyn Magruder <carolynmagruder@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I'm not wild about 2112 (in large part, because I haven't heard it)
> but there are a few Rush albums that I think would make excellent
> pieces of interactive fiction. Admittedly, this would be less an
> exploration of plotlines than an exploration of themes and imagery,
> but here are a few votes from me...
>
> - "Ghost of a Chance", off Roll the Bones
> - "Chain Lightning", off Presto
> - "Presto", off Presto (duh)
> - "The Enemy Within", off Grace Under Pressure
> - "Between Sun And Moon", off Counterparts

My first game, _In The End_, has quite a bit of "Here Again", the best song
off their first album in it. (With 7 years hindsight - man, that long ago? -
I now consider the game pretty pretentious, but I'm still proud of some of the
writing.)

Joe
 
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Daphne Brinkerhoff wrote:
> "Al Arduengo" <a-arduengo2@ti.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1bb22442a5584128989687@news.ti.com...
>
>>In article <ZPJ1d.591046$Gx4.73401@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
>>stepjakk@yahooo.frr says...
>>
>>>"Al Arduengo" <a-arduengo2@ti.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>>>I get the sneaking suspicion that Weidenborner, C. Syphrit, Rrilltrae,
>>>>Charles McLaud and Aaronin are all the same person. Not that I
>
> suppose
>
>>>>this matters but it seems rather odd. Why all the different names?
>>>>
>>>
>>>They are students of a class. They don't seem to have the same style
>>>of writing.
>>
>>Shows my ignorance. I found them all to have very similar styles of
>>writing.
>
>
> Well, IMHO, they all sound a little like "academese", so that's probably
> what you're picking up on.
>
> And, also IMHO, they (the people & their reviews) are very welcome here. I
> love reading reviews. Thanks guys, and my thanks to Steve Breslin (your
> professor, IIRC) for the idea.
>
 
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Gene Wirchenko <genew@mail.ocis.net> wrote in message news:<haimk0tsem3q5b3493ofoas4oqegkrs6s0@4ax.com>...

> I want to watch you try to get to that private room when you
> still have one of your feet, ah, unavailable for normal use. <BEG>
>

Hopping builds strong leg muscles!

Carolyn
 
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In article <slrnckmf24.20p.jnc@arch.notcharles.ca>,
Joe Mason <jnc@notcharles.ca> wrote:
>My first game, _In The End_, has quite a bit of "Here Again", the best song
>off their first album in it. (With 7 years hindsight - man, that long ago? -
>I now consider the game pretty pretentious, but I'm still proud of some of the
>writing.)

One could claim, of course, with perfect accuracy, that "In The End 2"
is interactive Dorothy Parker.

Strangely, I was reminded of _In The End_ recently when there was some
_Scientific American_ article I read that said, hey, go 10^100 meters in
some direction and you'll find a universe just like ours except all the
people will have been replaced by invisible pink unicorns. Utterly
unfalsifiable, of course.

I nearly had to go looking for my
*****SPOILER*****




















































penknife.

Adam
 
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In article <ab01df60.0409171438.7936a372@posting.google.com>,
Fredrik Ramsberg <f.r@mail.com> wrote:
>Seriously, I think people who are real fans of a certain artist may
>think it's a better idea than it actually is to convert a song or an
>album into an IF game - I think the the references to the song or
>the artist are likely to disturb more than anything else.

In my glory days of 8th grade I wrote a very large BASIC adventure
(well, very large by the scale of my BASIC adventures anyway) largely
based on misheard lyrics from Beatles and Simon and Garfunkel songs.

I hope that time has claimed all copies of it.

Adam
 
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carolynmagruder@yahoo.com (Carolyn Magruder) wrote:

>Gene Wirchenko <genew@mail.ocis.net> wrote in message news:<haimk0tsem3q5b3493ofoas4oqegkrs6s0@4ax.com>...
>
>> I want to watch you try to get to that private room when you
>> still have one of your feet, ah, unavailable for normal use. <BEG>

>Hopping builds strong leg muscles!

But without feet?

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

Computerese Irregular Verb Conjugation:
I have preferences.
You have biases.
He/She has prejudices.
 
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adam@fsf.net (Adam Thornton) wrote:

> In article <ab01df60.0409171438.7936a372@posting.google.com>,
> Fredrik Ramsberg <f.r@mail.com> wrote:
> >Seriously, I think people who are real fans of a certain artist may
> >think it's a better idea than it actually is to convert a song or an
> >album into an IF game - I think the the references to the song or
> >the artist are likely to disturb more than anything else.
>
> In my glory days of 8th grade I wrote a very large BASIC adventure
> (well, very large by the scale of my BASIC adventures anyway) largely
> based on misheard lyrics from Beatles and Simon and Garfunkel songs.
>
> I hope that time has claimed all copies of it.

I happen to be a fan of both the Beatles and S&G. I certainly hope that
time has left us at least one copy of that game, since I'd love to get
my grubby paws on it.

Richard
 
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In article <414df5b9.1949390@news.individual.net>,
Richard Bos <rlb@hoekstra-uitgeverij.nl> wrote:
>adam@fsf.net (Adam Thornton) wrote:
>> In my glory days of 8th grade I wrote a very large BASIC adventure
>> (well, very large by the scale of my BASIC adventures anyway) largely
>> based on misheard lyrics from Beatles and Simon and Garfunkel songs.
>> I hope that time has claimed all copies of it.
>I happen to be a fan of both the Beatles and S&G. I certainly hope that
>time has left us at least one copy of that game, since I'd love to get
>my grubby paws on it.

No, no you wouldn't.

Adam
 
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One foot is unavailable for normal use. The other foot is good for
hopping. That would result in some rather lopsided muscle growth,
though.

(I've been playing too much IF lately. In the back of my head, a
quiet little voice is musing, "I bet there's a puzzle in this
somewhere.")

Carolyn

Gene Wirchenko <genew@mail.ocis.net> wrote in message news:<l3jsk0pce556db9gkq10prnfkgdt6agjq2@4ax.com>...
> carolynmagruder@yahoo.com (Carolyn Magruder) wrote:
>
> >Gene Wirchenko <genew@mail.ocis.net> wrote in message news:<haimk0tsem3q5b3493ofoas4oqegkrs6s0@4ax.com>...
> >
> >> I want to watch you try to get to that private room when you
> >> still have one of your feet, ah, unavailable for normal use. <BEG>
>
> >Hopping builds strong leg muscles!
>
> But without feet?
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Gene Wirchenko
 
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"Adam Thornton" <adam@fsf.net> escreveu na mensagem
news:ciodhb$u1c$1@news.fsf.net...
> In article <414df5b9.1949390@news.individual.net>,
> Richard Bos <rlb@hoekstra-uitgeverij.nl> wrote:
> >adam@fsf.net (Adam Thornton) wrote:
> >> In my glory days of 8th grade I wrote a very large BASIC adventure
> >> (well, very large by the scale of my BASIC adventures anyway) largely
> >> based on misheard lyrics from Beatles and Simon and Garfunkel songs.
> >> I hope that time has claimed all copies of it.
> >I happen to be a fan of both the Beatles and S&G. I certainly hope that
> >time has left us at least one copy of that game, since I'd love to get
> >my grubby paws on it.
>
> No, no you wouldn't.
>
> Adam

Why not tell us the name of the game so that we can search the web for it?

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In article <41533927$0$3078$a729d347@news.telepac.pt>,
RootShell <ANTISPAMRootShell@Netcabo.ptANTISPAM> wrote:
>"Adam Thornton" <adam@fsf.net> escreveu na mensagem
>Why not tell us the name of the game so that we can search the web for it?

"SIMON AND GARFUNKEL ADVENTURE," I think. It's an Applesoft BASIC
file.

I do not think it exists on the web.

I think that I am very likely the only person on the planet who even has
a 5-1/4 inch disk that once contained it. It is not currently
convenient for me to check whether this disk's contents are still
intact.

Adam
 
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adam@fsf.net (Adam Thornton) wrote:

> RootShell <ANTISPAMRootShell@Netcabo.ptANTISPAM> wrote:
> >Why not tell us the name of the game so that we can search the web for it?
>
> "SIMON AND GARFUNKEL ADVENTURE," I think. It's an Applesoft BASIC
> file.
>
> I do not think it exists on the web.
>
> I think that I am very likely the only person on the planet who even has
> a 5-1/4 inch disk that once contained it. It is not currently
> convenient for me to check whether this disk's contents are still
> intact.

You mean to say you don't keep hardcopy of all your work? Tsk, tsk...

Richard
 
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In article <41549d98.21035468@news.individual.net>,
Richard Bos <rlb@hoekstra-uitgeverij.nl> wrote:
>You mean to say you don't keep hardcopy of all your work? Tsk, tsk...
^^^^

ITYM "Juvenalia." Even if I had the silverfish would have eaten it.

Adam
 
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adam@fsf.net (Adam Thornton) wrote:

> In article <41549d98.21035468@news.individual.net>,
> Richard Bos <rlb@hoekstra-uitgeverij.nl> wrote:
> >You mean to say you don't keep hardcopy of all your work? Tsk, tsk...
> ^^^^
>
> ITYM "Juvenalia." Even if I had the silverfish would have eaten it.

Whatever you say, old man 😛

Richard
 
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samwyse come on down:

>On or about 9/17/2004 8:04 AM, Carolyn Magruder did proclaim:
>
>> I thought about listing a few other artists whose work would make
>> interesting IF (in my opinion), but I realized it would closely
>> resemble a list of my favorite artists, and I suppose everyone thinks
>> that their favorite artists' songs would make strong IF if adequately
>> converted into the new medium.
>
>My first thought was to make a list of "concept albums", but then I
>noticed that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_concept_albums doesn't
>include anything by Rush.

One could always try to do a game based on the outer-space concept album
"Mekanik Destruktiw Kommandoh", by Magma, but I'm afraid it would look a bit
like the Gostak.
 
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In article <415b30e7.23886437@news.individual.net>,
Richard Bos <rlb@hoekstra-uitgeverij.nl> wrote:
>No; nor does it look like you'll be bringing out your dead code, either.

It's resting.

Adam