[SOLVED] Review my build pls!

[edilovdeni208]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KrYVNq
Building a system for my younger brother, we have a 1200 budget and this is what I got. Is this good? Lemme know what you guys think I should replace, is bad...!🤗

 

[g-unit1111]

I would say no. It's a good start, but I would go for the 2060 Super over the 5700XT, it's a much better buy for not a few dollars more. I would also swap your primary boot drive for an M2, and ditch the mechanical HD. Plus you could also get the much newer B550 and get support for Ryzen 4 and 5:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600X 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor ($217.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard ($159.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($87.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($117.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB SC ULTRA GAMING Video Card ($423.98 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G3 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($129.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $1206.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-19 23:44 EDT-0400

 

[edilovdeni208]

I would say no. It's a good start, but I would go for the 2060 Super over the 5700XT, it's a much better buy for not a few dollars more. I would also swap your primary boot drive for an M2, and ditch the mechanical HD. Plus you could also get the much newer B550 and get support for Ryzen 4 and 5:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600X 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor ($217.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard ($159.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($87.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($117.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB SC ULTRA GAMING Video Card ($423.98 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G3 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($129.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $1206.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-19 23:44 EDT-0400

But isnt the 2060 performace wise a bit lower on the scale? or is it because the of high heat output from 5700xt?
Is the 1TB m2 enough? Thank you in advance!!!

 

[edilovdeni208]

But isnt the 2060 performace wise a bit lower on the scale? or is it because the of high heat output from 5700xt?
Is the 1TB m2 enough? Thank you in advance!!!

I just checked on the prices here and they tend to be like 5-20 more expensive. it comes at 1300+ for me. Is there a build that you can suggest thats a bit cheaper?

 

[geofelt]

Your build is reasonable.
A balanced gamer will budget 2x the cost of the processor for the graphics card.
You are spot on there.
If anything, I would suggest starting with a 1tb m.2 pcie ssd.
If and when that gets filled up, it is easy to add more storage later.

 

[g-unit1111]

But isnt the 2060 performace wise a bit lower on the scale? or is it because the of high heat output from 5700xt?
Is the 1TB m2 enough? Thank you in advance!!!

Heat doesn't really have anything to do with it. The Radeon 5XXX cards have very shoddy drivers that require frequent BIOS updates in order to get any decent frame rates. The 2060 Super is just an overall better card that gets better frame rates for the same amount of money.

As for storage that is up to you. I generally include a 1TB but that motherboard supports up to 4, and you get ports to add 2 M2 SSD drives. I personally wouldn't use anything else, and there's no reason to buy mechanical storage anymore unless you want something over 2TB.

 

[logainofhades]

The AMD driver thing is over exaggerated, and there is nothing bios issue wise, for AMD graphics cards either.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($168.74 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard ($139.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($79.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial P1 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB Red Devil Video Card ($439.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Antec GX202 ATX Mid Tower Case ($60.74 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GOLD 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($109.04 @ B&H)
Total: $1113.46
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-20 11:05 EDT-0400


A little over $1200, but with a 2070s.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($168.74 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard ($139.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($79.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($102.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC 3X Video Card ($499.99 @ Best Buy)
Case: Antec GX202 ATX Mid Tower Case ($60.74 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GOLD 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($109.04 @ B&H)
Total: $1216.46
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-20 11:06 EDT-0400

 

[edilovdeni208]

The AMD driver thing is over exaggerated, and there is nothing bios issue wise, for AMD graphics cards either.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($168.74 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard ($139.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($79.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial P1 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB Red Devil Video Card ($439.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Antec GX202 ATX Mid Tower Case ($60.74 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GOLD 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($109.04 @ B&H)
Total: $1113.46
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-20 11:05 EDT-0400


A little over $1200, but with a 2070s.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($168.74 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard ($139.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($79.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($102.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC 3X Video Card ($499.99 @ Best Buy)
Case: Antec GX202 ATX Mid Tower Case ($60.74 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GOLD 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($109.04 @ B&H)
Total: $1216.46
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-20 11:06 EDT-0400

looking at some reviews for the powercolor radeon rx 5700 xt, it concerncs me a bit. Is there any other version I can pick?

 

[logainofhades]

The Red Devil is really the best 5700xt, of the bunch. With your budget, though, a 2070s is doable, and it is faster. You can drop the mechanical drive, for now, and get one later, if needed.

 

[Rogue Leader]

Heat doesn't really have anything to do with it. The Radeon 5XXX cards have very shoddy drivers that require frequent BIOS updates in order to get any decent frame rates. The 2060 Super is just an overall better card that gets better frame rates for the same amount of money.

Yeah thats not true at all. Radeon drivers demolish Nvidia in features and functionality, and them being unstable is just a fallacy as in everyone blames them when they don't know any other way to diagnose the issues in their system. I should know I have flagship cards from both teams. Never had to update a vBIOS in my life, oh except for one I flashed my RX480 to 8gb of VRAM when that whole hidden ram thing went on at its release.

Meanwhile the 5700XT eats the 2060 Super for lunch in most test and is on Par more with a 2070 or 2070 Super depending on the game.

 

[g-unit1111]

Meanwhile the 5700XT eats the 2060 Super for lunch in most test and is on Par more with a 2070 or 2070 Super depending on the game.

Really? Guess I am wrong about that one then. Most of the benchmarks I saw when I got my 5600XT showed the 5700XT and 2060 Super both within a few frames of each other. That must have been improved since I got my card.

 

[Rogue Leader]

Really? Guess I am wrong about that one then. Most of the benchmarks I saw when I got my 5600XT showed the 5700XT and 2060 Super both within a few frames of each other. That must have been improved since I got my card.

On this very site, in February

https://www.tomshardware.com/features/amd-radeon-rx-5700-xt-vs-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2060-super

 

[g-unit1111]

On this very site, in February

https://www.tomshardware.com/features/amd-radeon-rx-5700-xt-vs-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2060-super

But what was the driver / BIOS issue? I remember that being a thing when I got my 5600XT.

 

[Rogue Leader]

But what was the driver / BIOS issue? I remember that being a thing when I got my 5600XT.

There was an issue with the early builds of 5600XT specifically where you needed to update the VBIOS relating to the memory speed/performance due to a last minute change before release.

https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd/rx-5600-xt-how-to-bios-update

 

[edilovdeni208]

The Red Devil is really the best 5700xt, of the bunch. With your budget, though, a 2070s is doable, and it is faster. You can drop the mechanical drive, for now, and get one later, if needed.

looking at some benchmarks, theyre on par, no? Its like a 100 for a few frames and ray tracing. I'm a bit torn between the 2 😅
one of the benchmarks:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZWZbsmAPN0

 

[logainofhades]

Price/performance, the 5700xt is probably a better buy. You get RTX and the superior NVENC encoder, if you happen to want to stream. I should have mentioned that earlier.

Another performance review.
https://www.techspot.com/review/1870-amd-radeon-rx-5700/