Posted this on another forum, no responses, so trying here. Yes, it is a long post as I had a variety of questions etc. Onto the questions.
Hi Guys,
So just working out a few things about RGB and fans - I've never bothered with extra fans on any previous system that I've ever built in 20+ years, and RGB is new (my last built system was in 2012).
I have bought the Phanteks Eclipse P500A-DRGB case, which comes with 3x 140mm RGB fans as default. I plan to leave them in the front, as intake.
I have bought 4x SK DRGB PWN 120mm fans in addition to the stock fans. (these are the ones - http://www.phanteks.com/PH-F120SK-DRGB.html)
My plan was to have a single 120mm at the rear as exhaust, and 3 120mm at the top. 2 of the top fans would be intake and the one furthest back would be exhaust.
As far as I understand, this will create negative pressure inside the case, and should help hot air move out of the case. I should effectively have 3x 140 and 2x 120 fans in front of the CPU/air cooler as intake.
Graphics card is a lowly Radeon 550 2mb - this is not going to be a gaming rig, it's going to be a high end workstation.
I plan to use the stock prism cooler for cooling. I think it should be able to adequately cool the system. My intentions are to use the system for my Astronomy image processing software (PixInsight), which will fully utilise each core, memory and any NVME PCIe disk cache that I set up for processing parallelisation. Given that the cores will be pushed hard, will the stock cooler, and above fan setup be enough? I do not intend to overclock the CPU, or infinity fabric. System RAM will be Corsair LPX 3600mhz (2 x 32GB). RAM will eventually be increased to the system maximum 128GB.
What do you guys think of this plan? I know very little about fans, and I know very little about effective cooling of a case. I have done reading, but obviously lack experience dealing with fan planning, so hopefully my ideas are good and sound.
Now my first potential issue is this is 7 fans. I have the Gigabyte Aorus Master x570 motherboard and as far as I can see, it has 3x system fan headers and 2x system fan/water cooling pump headers. So...2 questions spring to mind so far (I'll work through all my questions logically, in order, so bare with me!).
1. I can use the system fan/water pump combo headers for system fans only if I want.
2. Do I have to use 1 fan per system header? Or, can I daisy chain them? If I can daisy chain them, what are the issues with how many fans per header? Each fan requires voltage to run, and I presume each header has a limited amount of voltage that can run through it. I don't want to overload any particular header.
3. There's no different voltage types for the fans I've chosen - I believe that 12v is the standard?
4. Am I going blind, or is there no sys fan #3 on the motherboard?
I haven't opened up any of the fan packaging yet, I have it safely away in a box until all the parts for the PC build arrive. Will I need to buy additional accessories to enable me to daisy chain etc, or should there be some inbuilt functionality for daisy chaining the fans out of the box?
Next question - I'll be using a AMD 9 Ryzen 3900x CPU. Do I need to use both 12v CPU power headers on the board, or only One? Older systems I have worked on in the past required only a single one.
Another question revolves around RGB. I think I understand addressable vs non-addressable. The former allows the individual LEDS on the LED strip to alternate colours etc independently, whereas the latter doesn't, and the entire strip behaves as programmed.
As far as I understand, addressable headers are 5V and non-addressable are 12V and they are not compatible (as per this page - https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?110272-What-do-5v-and-12v-RGB-cables-look-like-you-ask). I believe all of the fans (case included 140mm and the separate 120mm fans are addressable). So, I will need to use a RGB addressable 5v header. The motherboard manual says it has 2 RGB addressable "LED strip" headers - can these be used for the RGB fans that I have purchased?
I'll probably need to split the RGB and daisy chain (which I believe I can do) - 4 RGB on one header and 3 on the other. Is that correct? If so, are there any potential issues with power and potential damage to the RGB fans and/or motherboard from overloading too many of them on a single header? I don't now how much power each individual fan requires for RGB and how that matches to a 5V RGB addressable header.
Looking at the motherboard manual, I see (on p25) LED_C1 and LED_C2 (I think these are non-addressable 12V) and D_LED1 and D_LED2 - I believe these are the addressable 5V headers. Am I correct in my understanding? I think page 29/30 of the motherboard manual confirms this. Just a bit nervous about all of this and seeking external confirmation that I'm not misreading things etc!
Also, if I've understood things correctly and chosen the correct parts, the 120mm fans are PWM. I don't believe the included 3x 140mm fans are PWM (so they should be 3 pin, right)? As far as I can see, all of the fan headers on the motherboard are 4 pin. As I understand, I can connect a non-PWM fan (3 pin) to a 4 pin header, I just need to make sure that I get the plug orientation correct and not to use the 4th (12v pin). Correct?
My last question (for now at least) revolves around the included temperature probes. Should I bother with them? Since they are very long (50cm from memory) and would dangle loose, how on Earth do you use them inside the case without them posing a potential problem to the case internals and dangling about, etc?
Many thanks to anyone who takes the time to assist
Cheers,
Dave
Hi Guys,
So just working out a few things about RGB and fans - I've never bothered with extra fans on any previous system that I've ever built in 20+ years, and RGB is new (my last built system was in 2012).
I have bought the Phanteks Eclipse P500A-DRGB case, which comes with 3x 140mm RGB fans as default. I plan to leave them in the front, as intake.
I have bought 4x SK DRGB PWN 120mm fans in addition to the stock fans. (these are the ones - http://www.phanteks.com/PH-F120SK-DRGB.html)
My plan was to have a single 120mm at the rear as exhaust, and 3 120mm at the top. 2 of the top fans would be intake and the one furthest back would be exhaust.
As far as I understand, this will create negative pressure inside the case, and should help hot air move out of the case. I should effectively have 3x 140 and 2x 120 fans in front of the CPU/air cooler as intake.
Graphics card is a lowly Radeon 550 2mb - this is not going to be a gaming rig, it's going to be a high end workstation.
I plan to use the stock prism cooler for cooling. I think it should be able to adequately cool the system. My intentions are to use the system for my Astronomy image processing software (PixInsight), which will fully utilise each core, memory and any NVME PCIe disk cache that I set up for processing parallelisation. Given that the cores will be pushed hard, will the stock cooler, and above fan setup be enough? I do not intend to overclock the CPU, or infinity fabric. System RAM will be Corsair LPX 3600mhz (2 x 32GB). RAM will eventually be increased to the system maximum 128GB.
What do you guys think of this plan? I know very little about fans, and I know very little about effective cooling of a case. I have done reading, but obviously lack experience dealing with fan planning, so hopefully my ideas are good and sound.
Now my first potential issue is this is 7 fans. I have the Gigabyte Aorus Master x570 motherboard and as far as I can see, it has 3x system fan headers and 2x system fan/water cooling pump headers. So...2 questions spring to mind so far (I'll work through all my questions logically, in order, so bare with me!).
1. I can use the system fan/water pump combo headers for system fans only if I want.
2. Do I have to use 1 fan per system header? Or, can I daisy chain them? If I can daisy chain them, what are the issues with how many fans per header? Each fan requires voltage to run, and I presume each header has a limited amount of voltage that can run through it. I don't want to overload any particular header.
3. There's no different voltage types for the fans I've chosen - I believe that 12v is the standard?
4. Am I going blind, or is there no sys fan #3 on the motherboard?
I haven't opened up any of the fan packaging yet, I have it safely away in a box until all the parts for the PC build arrive. Will I need to buy additional accessories to enable me to daisy chain etc, or should there be some inbuilt functionality for daisy chaining the fans out of the box?
Next question - I'll be using a AMD 9 Ryzen 3900x CPU. Do I need to use both 12v CPU power headers on the board, or only One? Older systems I have worked on in the past required only a single one.
Another question revolves around RGB. I think I understand addressable vs non-addressable. The former allows the individual LEDS on the LED strip to alternate colours etc independently, whereas the latter doesn't, and the entire strip behaves as programmed.
As far as I understand, addressable headers are 5V and non-addressable are 12V and they are not compatible (as per this page - https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?110272-What-do-5v-and-12v-RGB-cables-look-like-you-ask). I believe all of the fans (case included 140mm and the separate 120mm fans are addressable). So, I will need to use a RGB addressable 5v header. The motherboard manual says it has 2 RGB addressable "LED strip" headers - can these be used for the RGB fans that I have purchased?
I'll probably need to split the RGB and daisy chain (which I believe I can do) - 4 RGB on one header and 3 on the other. Is that correct? If so, are there any potential issues with power and potential damage to the RGB fans and/or motherboard from overloading too many of them on a single header? I don't now how much power each individual fan requires for RGB and how that matches to a 5V RGB addressable header.
Looking at the motherboard manual, I see (on p25) LED_C1 and LED_C2 (I think these are non-addressable 12V) and D_LED1 and D_LED2 - I believe these are the addressable 5V headers. Am I correct in my understanding? I think page 29/30 of the motherboard manual confirms this. Just a bit nervous about all of this and seeking external confirmation that I'm not misreading things etc!
Also, if I've understood things correctly and chosen the correct parts, the 120mm fans are PWM. I don't believe the included 3x 140mm fans are PWM (so they should be 3 pin, right)? As far as I can see, all of the fan headers on the motherboard are 4 pin. As I understand, I can connect a non-PWM fan (3 pin) to a 4 pin header, I just need to make sure that I get the plug orientation correct and not to use the 4th (12v pin). Correct?
My last question (for now at least) revolves around the included temperature probes. Should I bother with them? Since they are very long (50cm from memory) and would dangle loose, how on Earth do you use them inside the case without them posing a potential problem to the case internals and dangling about, etc?
Many thanks to anyone who takes the time to assist
Cheers,
Dave