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I bought mine from Amazon. Is this how they all are?


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rms wrote:
> yep. same with hl2
>
> rms
>

HL2 had at least a "quick-start" card in the retail versions.
 
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GFree wrote:
> rms wrote:
>
>> yep. same with hl2
>>
>> rms
>
>
> HL2 had at least a "quick-start" card in the retail versions.

My copy of Riddick came with a keycard.
 
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On Tue, 15 Feb 2005, pw wrote:

riddick is a very special game for all us anti-steam pc gamers

when valve released hl2 with the extremely abusive and intrusive
steam technology, a game appeared also being FPS, and also being
from sierra that had half the price and showed a great engine
and playability... and didn't have steam! ...that game was called
riddick, so we all have a special care for it
riddick was hope in a moment of sadness
but despite that we all agree riddick has some negative points
i can't talk about it cause i still don't own it but for what i
read the packaging is one of them... at least the us version

you can argue that for 19 bucks its right to not include a manual
and the cds being in paper sleeves, but probably the best should
be giving the pc gamer two versions, a regular like the one you
talk about and a "collectors edition" with everything on it

for me and i believe for most of the pc gamers the packaging is
very important
i personally adore when a game comes with create packaging, so i
think its very important the game publishers not starting to cut
costs in the packaging

as for your question of is this always like this
for budget third party publishers selling games bellow 10 bucks
yes it is, but for first releases its not
as far as i know, the majority of first releases came always with
a decent packaging featuring a manual and a proper way to store
the cds
as for the keycard... i must say its also something i like very
much but lately its not that common seeing it and the keyboard
controls are usually included inside the manual

i hope pc games will always be a package product and publishers
put enough work in making them pleasant and appealing and with
quality

for me the package is part of the game as the game itself
so great games like riddick deserve great packagings

--
"pc games are like women, the inside is the most important but
without good packaging you really won't buy it"
 
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> My copy of Riddick came with a keycard.

Mine, too. However, if you'd played one FPS, you've played them all. Just go
to "Options" or "Configure Controls" (or whatever the developers named it)
and assign keys to commands you think you'll use.

BTW, I applaud the minimalistic HUD that Riddick uses. Seems to add to the
immersion.

- f_f
 
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sayNO2steam wrote:

> riddick is a very special game for all us anti-steam pc gamers

Oh, so you've purchased it and played it?
 
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"sayNO2steam" <sayNO2steam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 15 Feb 2005, pw wrote:
>
> riddick is a very special game for all us anti-steam pc gamers
>
> when valve released hl2 with the extremely abusive and intrusive
> steam technology, a game appeared also being FPS, and also being
> from sierra that had half the price and showed a great engine
> and playability... and didn't have steam! ...that game was called
> riddick, so we all have a special care for it
> riddick was hope in a moment of sadness
> but despite that we all agree riddick has some negative points
> i can't talk about it cause i still don't own it

You, Sir, are a twat and a half. Riddick is such a bastion of hope and light
for you in these dark and troubled times of Steam that you cant even be
bothered to go out and _buy_ it!??!?!? Get off youre ass and plop down the
$20 bucks if its such a great game and saviour to you. How can you sit there
and praise a game you've never even played, or if you have, it's been a
pirate copy?

Pesonly, Id be happy if they did away with game packaging and just put them
on the shelf in shrink wrapped plastic jewel cases like music CDs. or
perhaps the slightly longer DVD cases that videos gome in. just put a manual
on the game disk as a PDF. WTF do you need some big cardboard box that your
just going to throw away, or a paper manual that will just collect dust
anyway. its just extra printing and production work that needs to be done
and drives the price of games up higher as well as creating more waste.
 
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"slartibartfast" wrote

> You, Sir, are a twat and a half. Riddick is such a bastion of hope and
> light
> for you in these dark and troubled times of Steam that you cant even be
> bothered to go out and _buy_ it!??!?!? Get off youre ass and plop down the
> $20 bucks if its such a great game and saviour to you. How can you sit
> there
> and praise a game you've never even played, or if you have, it's been a
> pirate copy?

DiFool has been asked which games he owns a couple of times - but he has
never replied.
 
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> You, Sir, are a twat and a half. Riddick is such a bastion of hope and
> light
> for you in these dark and troubled times of Steam that you cant even be
> bothered to go out and _buy_ it!??!?!? Get off youre ass and plop down the
> $20 bucks if its such a great game and saviour to you. How can you sit
> there
> and praise a game you've never even played, or if you have, it's been a
> pirate copy?
>
> Pesonly, Id be happy if they did away with game packaging and just put
> them
> on the shelf in shrink wrapped plastic jewel cases like music CDs. or
> perhaps the slightly longer DVD cases that videos gome in. just put a
> manual
> on the game disk as a PDF.

But that's how all my (recent) games are packaged, cept' for Freespace 1+2
double pack as its a double depth DVD style case. Morrowind was the only
recent(ish) game I have purchased that came in a cardboard box, slightly
larger than a normal dvd case.

WTF do you need some big cardboard box that your
> just going to throw away, or a paper manual that will just collect dust
> anyway. its just extra printing and production work that needs to be done
> and drives the price of games up higher as well as creating more waste.
>
>
 
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>yep. same with hl2
>
>rms
>

At least HL2 came with a keyboard reference card.

Not much, I know 🙂

I think I am enjoying Riddick as much or more that HL2 so far. At
least I put HL2 on hold for the time being


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On Wed, 16 Feb 2005, "Hank the Rapper" wrote:

> Oh, so you've purchased it and played it?

i'm not an early buyer when it comes to pc games
and riddick was released two months ago... two months!
so can i please have a little more time to buy it?
am i asking too much?
and can't i talk about a game i haven't played?
is it a sin talking about a game someone has never played?
why people pick on me for anything

i will delay riddick for some time cause the next game i
want to buy is painkiller gold/black edition
dreamcatcher calls it a "limited" edition and i'm afraid
not being able to get a copy
hope it will have a memorable packaging with everything on
a truly collector edition packaging
my only problem is what will be the best version, the us
edition, called "gold" or the uk edition called "black"
it would be very nice if both early buyers of painkiller
US and UK editions would make a complete and detailed
description of both packagings
hank will you buy the US edition? if so and i recommend
you do please give us a report about it ok?

btw painkiller xbox will never be able to reach greatness
like the pc version! (this one cause you are a xboxer)

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its completely tasteless unless you sell a game in a package"
 
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sayNO2steam wrote:

> i'm not an early buyer when it comes to pc games
> and riddick was released two months ago... two months!
> so can i please have a little more time to buy it?
> am i asking too much?
> and can't i talk about a game i haven't played?
> is it a sin talking about a game someone has never played?
> why people pick on me for anything

All you talk about are games you haven't played. When are you going to talk
about games you have played?

> btw painkiller xbox will never be able to reach greatness
> like the pc version! (this one cause you are a xboxer)

You say this like it some how upsets me. I'm not as emotionally fragile as
you. I could care less if the PC version is greater than the Xbox version
because <difool mode on> I PLAY IT ON MY PC I CAN!!!
 
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On Wed, 16 Feb 2005, "slartibartfast" wrote:

> Pesonly, Id be happy if they did away with game packaging and just put them
> on the shelf in shrink wrapped plastic jewel cases like music CDs. or

pc games are not cd music! they are much more special!
pc games "DESERVE" a better packaging
so if you don't like pc games that much i understand why you want to
downgrade them, but we the real pc gamers who really love games want
it in a "PROPER" packaging, the one available now

when it comes to pc game packaging what i say to publishers is:
DON'T CHANGE! cause what we have is great!

> perhaps the slightly longer DVD cases that videos gome in. just put a manual

the dvd case is already used in europe and in asia, its an alternative
personally i would like to have the option of choosing between them in
any given game but probably its asking too much
for me perfection would be being able to choose between the "US" european
and asian edition of any game without any extra cost
i would like to have "variety" in my pc game collection but i will not
complain cause its very good the current packaging available

> on the game disk as a PDF. WTF do you need some big cardboard box that your

already some first releases don't came with a printed manual
and the majority of the ones that come, its really not a "full" manual
but more like a quick reference/installing guide with very few pages
and most all pc games regardless of whether they have a printed manual,
come with a pdf electronic version inside the cd-rom
so again i don't understand your complaint

> just going to throw away, or a paper manual that will just collect dust

you throw away cause you bought the wrong product for you!
if you don't like pc games don't bother buying them!
buy instead something you REALLY like
any real gamer will never throw away anything from a game he bought!

> anyway. its just extra printing and production work that needs to be done
> and drives the price of games up higher as well as creating more waste.

that's completely untrue!
the manufacturing cost of pc games is probably less than 1% of its price

if you are so concerned about pc games, please focus on important issues
like steam and piracy ok!

your complaints are completely worthless when we in pc games face so
important and challenging problems like steam and piracy

packaging is perfect in pc games! so don't mess up with something which
is completely fine!

put your energy in the only two issues pc games face and leave packaging
alone, cause when it comes to package everything is alright in pc games!

fight steam!
fight piracy!

--
"buying games via download is like eating food without salt
its completely tasteless unless you sell a game in a package"
 
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"sayNO2steam" <sayNO2steam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 16 Feb 2005, "slartibartfast" wrote:
>
> > Pesonly, Id be happy if they did away with game packaging and just put
them
> > on the shelf in shrink wrapped plastic jewel cases like music CDs. or
>
> pc games are not cd music! they are much more special!
> pc games "DESERVE" a better packaging
> so if you don't like pc games that much i understand why you want to
> downgrade them, but we the real pc gamers who really love games want
> it in a "PROPER" packaging, the one available now
>
> when it comes to pc game packaging what i say to publishers is:
> DON'T CHANGE! cause what we have is great!
>
> > perhaps the slightly longer DVD cases that videos gome in. just put a
manual
>
> the dvd case is already used in europe and in asia, its an alternative
> personally i would like to have the option of choosing between them in
> any given game but probably its asking too much
> for me perfection would be being able to choose between the "US" european
> and asian edition of any game without any extra cost
> i would like to have "variety" in my pc game collection but i will not
> complain cause its very good the current packaging available
>
> > on the game disk as a PDF. WTF do you need some big cardboard box that
your
>
> already some first releases don't came with a printed manual
> and the majority of the ones that come, its really not a "full" manual
> but more like a quick reference/installing guide with very few pages
> and most all pc games regardless of whether they have a printed manual,
> come with a pdf electronic version inside the cd-rom
> so again i don't understand your complaint
>
> > just going to throw away, or a paper manual that will just collect dust
>
> you throw away cause you bought the wrong product for you!
> if you don't like pc games don't bother buying them!
> buy instead something you REALLY like
> any real gamer will never throw away anything from a game he bought!
>
> > anyway. its just extra printing and production work that needs to be
done
> > and drives the price of games up higher as well as creating more waste.
>
> that's completely untrue!
> the manufacturing cost of pc games is probably less than 1% of its price
>
> if you are so concerned about pc games, please focus on important issues
> like steam and piracy ok!
>
> your complaints are completely worthless when we in pc games face so
> important and challenging problems like steam and piracy
>
> packaging is perfect in pc games! so don't mess up with something which
> is completely fine!
>
> put your energy in the only two issues pc games face and leave packaging
> alone, cause when it comes to package everything is alright in pc games!
>
> fight steam!
> fight piracy!
>
> --
> "buying games via download is like eating food without salt
> its completely tasteless unless you sell a game in a package"


Yeah, yeah, whatever. To be a real gamer, you have to actually _buy_ the
game, and play it. let me restate that last part 'cause it's really
important. _And Play It_. O.K. a key word here is Play. It's a game. It's
not nuclear disarmament!! you talk as if the fate mankind itself hung in the
balance of how a game is put up on the shelf for a consumer to buy it. get
over it!! go outside and get some sun on your pasty skin!! step away from
the keyboard!!

Oh and nice job on completely ignoring the first paragraph of my previous
post. I still think you are a Twat and half.
 
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>> My copy of Riddick came with a keycard.
>
>Mine, too. However, if you'd played one FPS, you've played them all. Just go
>to "Options" or "Configure Controls" (or whatever the developers named it)
>and assign keys to commands you think you'll use.
>
>BTW, I applaud the minimalistic HUD that Riddick uses. Seems to add to the
>immersion.
>
>- f_f
>

A manual would explain what these packs of cigarettes I am picking up
are for, and what "Game Concept Art 01 has been unlocked. It is now
available in the Extra Content Menu".

Guess I will see if I can find the Extra Content Menu 🙂


-pw
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pw wrote:
>>> My copy of Riddick came with a keycard.
>>
>> Mine, too. However, if you'd played one FPS, you've played them all.
>> Just go to "Options" or "Configure Controls" (or whatever the
>> developers named it) and assign keys to commands you think you'll
>> use.
>>
>> BTW, I applaud the minimalistic HUD that Riddick uses. Seems to add
>> to the immersion.
>>
>> - f_f
>>
>
> A manual would explain what these packs of cigarettes I am picking up
> are for, and what "Game Concept Art 01 has been unlocked. It is now
> available in the Extra Content Menu".
>
> Guess I will see if I can find the Extra Content Menu 🙂
>

its at the main menu, the cigarettes unlock a whole load of extra stuff, its
kinda fun, don't know if you get anything extra when u get all of them we'll
soon see

--


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>pw wrote:
>>>> My copy of Riddick came with a keycard.
>>>
>>> Mine, too. However, if you'd played one FPS, you've played them all.
>>> Just go to "Options" or "Configure Controls" (or whatever the
>>> developers named it) and assign keys to commands you think you'll
>>> use.
>>>
>>> BTW, I applaud the minimalistic HUD that Riddick uses. Seems to add
>>> to the immersion.
>>>
>>> - f_f
>>>
>>
>> A manual would explain what these packs of cigarettes I am picking up
>> are for, and what "Game Concept Art 01 has been unlocked. It is now
>> available in the Extra Content Menu".
>>
>> Guess I will see if I can find the Extra Content Menu 🙂
>>
>
>its at the main menu, the cigarettes unlock a whole load of extra stuff, its
>kinda fun, don't know if you get anything extra when u get all of them we'll
>soon see


Thanks!! I will check it out. Hope so!


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On Thu, 17 Feb 2005, "slartibartfast" wrote:

> Oh and nice job on completely ignoring the first paragraph of my previous
> post. I still think you are a Twat and half.

why are you so tough on me?
obviously its only cause i'm against steam
in this group the price a pc gamer pays for being against steam is very
very very very high!
do you find this fair?
no its not fair!
its wrong!

as for me ignoring... are you talking about buying riddick?
i thought you would also read my follow up to hank post but i guess i was
wrong...
like i said to him and i repeat to you, i will delay buying riddick for
a month or so, cause i decided for the next game to be painkiller gold
black edition and unfortunately for that version i will have to pay full
price cause i don't believe i could ever find it with discount

but everytime i read someone replying to me, i feel this group has a gun
to my head! and you tell me to calm down... you calm down! be assured
i'll buy riddick, you know why? cause i like it! cause buying riddick
give me pleasure! cause playing it and owning it is my main hobby!
everything i do with pc games is completely for my personal enjoyment!
total freedom!
i will buy riddick not cause you or anyone tells me, but just cause i'll
have a hell of enjoyment buying it! owing it! and playing it!
that's why i will NEVER buy hl2 cause only thinking about it disgust me!

nobody will ever tell me what games to buy
HL2 NEVER EVER!

--
its only in the hands of every pc gamer defend what he likes the most
its only pc gamers who will lose with piracy cause the publishers and
developers will find other businesses to work in without being robbed
 
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sayNO2piracy wrote:

> like i said to him and i repeat to you, i will delay buying riddick
> for a month or so, cause i decided for the next game to be painkiller
> gold black edition and unfortunately for that version i will have to
> pay full price cause i don't believe i could ever find it with
> discount

Make sure you post your thoughts on the game when you've played them.
 
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On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 10:37:38 +0000, sayNO2piracy
<sayNO2steam@yahoo.com> wrote:

>why are you so tough on me?

When everyone in a newsgroup is insulting you, I think you should take
the hint. *plonk* yet another name change.
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Andrew wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 10:37:38 +0000, sayNO2piracy
> <sayNO2steam@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>why are you so tough on me?
>
>
> When everyone in a newsgroup is insulting you, I think you should take
> the hint. *plonk* yet another name change.

LOL, and too stupid to change his replyto email - thus being caught in
my filters :)
 
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On Fri, 18 Feb 2005, "Hank the Rapper" wrote:

> Make sure you post your thoughts on the game when you've played them.

for me to play a game i must buy it first! right?
and for me to buy a game i must have information, know what kind of game
it is, what kind of packaging it has, what kind of copy protection it
includes, what kind of price is it selling at, and to know about all that
i need to exchange thoughts and information with other gamers! right?
so please and once and for all, let me write about games i've not played
so i can have all the info needed to make the decision of whether or not
its a game for me so i should buy it

i talked about riddick and found out is a game for me and a game i'll buy
i talked about hl2 and found out is not a game for me and i'll never buy

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On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 18:22:10 -0700, pw
<***paulwilliamson@***spamcop.net> wrote:

>I bought mine from Amazon. Is this how they all are?

I got a keycard with mine. That's all you need to play it. Plus the
game has ingame hints when you first start playing it.
 
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sayNO2steam wrote:

> i talked about riddick and found out is a game for me and a game i'll
> buy

And when you actually buy the game let us know what you think. Why is this
so difficult?
 
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