Ripping off this build - Any problems with it?

[Macenstein]

Hey guys, I think I could keep reading this forum and 2nd guessing my decisions forever, so I am thinking of just ripping off a build that seems to have the main points I want, and appears to work.

If you have time, can you please check out this list of components this guy used and tell me if you think it will meet my needs?

http://pcpartpicker.com/b/8PLD4D

my criteria, - gaming PC for son who plays Call of Duty/CS Go games at 1080 and records them for his youtube.

I want to use a 970 graphics card.
I want the case to look sort of cool and have lights inside (son loves my last build which had blue fans)
no plans to over clock anything

I'm open to changing anything else but not simply for the sake of change. I'm fine with taking it AS-IS unless you see an issue or know that a newer/faster piece of hardware for a similar price is a better choice

(FYI his current system I built was an AMD FX-6100and Radeon HD 6770 so I am hoping he'll notice an improvement)

I also saw a comment on that page where someone questioned his choice of processor and implied a different one allowed for faster RAM? I don't quite get the clock speed thing, so please let me know if you see an issue there.

Thanks so much, hopefully I can finally build this and stop bothering you guys!
- Mike

 

[Eximo]

Some outdated parts, but otherwise a high quality build.

If you post a budget and location, plenty of people around who will do you an optimized build with the parts and prices available now.

 

[Eximo]

Were I to build this system I would opt for a NVMe M.2 SSD, drop the power supply down a notch, possibly a cheaper motherboard based on the part choices. The case is subjective, but that thing is designed for a lot more then is in the build. The OP of that build actually has the wrong CPU listed, i7-4790k is a better option, though the i7-6700k and Z170 motherboards with DDR4 are available as well.

 

[Macenstein]

Were I to build this system I would opt for a NVMe M.2 SSD, drop the power supply down a notch, possibly a cheaper motherboard based on the part choices. The case is subjective, but that thing is designed for a lot more then is in the build. The OP of that build actually has the wrong CPU listed, i7-4790k is a better option, though the i7-6700k and Z170 motherboards with DDR4 are available as well.

Thanks eximo,

I live in NJ,
can you post links to the parts you'd prefer? I don't really want to downgrade any parts, even if it saves a few bucks as I am hoping he can upgrade this in a couple-few years himself, so I want the motherboard and PSU to be decently future proofed.

I don't need a monitor, I'd like to keep the build around $900 or less, I have 2 SSD I can use.

 

[DelroyMonjo]

For a standard (non-overclocked) i7-4770 the H-100 watercooler is overkill, same for the Maximus VII motherboard. Unless you plan to overclock, a $30 CM Hyper Evo 212 works fine for CPU cooling and there are plenty of socket 1150 motherboards for much less $$$ which offer the same specs for $100 less. The i7-4770 has been superseded by the i7-4790, same price. As for faster speed RAM, benefits are seen at 1866 speed but taper off after that. You want RAM with the lowest latency possible, the CAS number which is listed first, i.e. 9-11-11-31 for which the Corsair Dominator Platinum applies.

 

[Eximo]

Not likely with Intel systems these days. There might be one or two more LGA1151 chips before the socket is retired, but that will be within a 'few years' time. GPU upgrades are likely to use less or equal power, not more, so not much concern there either. LGA1150 is already end of life, but it is not the most cost effective right now.

Could opt for an LGA2011v3 build, but that is significantly more expensive and would probably put you over budget.

Already having SSDs is nice, but you do lose out on newer speeds available (as much as three times faster) though that doesn't matter much. Looks like the last of the LGA1150 Asus VI and VII Hero boards are sold out, as well as the i7-4770k. You may not have noticed the missing prices, so that build is well over $900

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Ntg6YJ

A more reasonable build, but still a little high:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/QK47zy

So here is one without overclocking (CPU) and in your budget:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zDxz23

 

[Macenstein]

Not likely with Intel systems these days. There might be one or two more LGA1151 chips before the socket is retired, but that will be within a 'few years' time. GPU upgrades are likely to use less or equal power, not more, so not much concern there either. LGA1150 is already end of life, but it is not the most cost effective right now.

Could opt for an LGA2011v3 build, but that is significantly more expensive and would probably put you over budget.

Already having SSDs is nice, but you do lose out on newer speeds available (as much as three times faster) though that doesn't matter much. Looks like the last of the LGA1150 Asus VI and VII Hero boards are sold out, as well as the i7-4770k. You may not have noticed the missing prices, so that build is well over $900

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Ntg6YJ

A more reasonable build, but still a little high:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/QK47zy

So here is one without overclocking (CPU) and in your budget:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zDxz23

thanks Eximo, I guess nothing is easy.


is there a difference between the MSI 970 and the EVGA 970?

 

[kraelic]

The processor/RAM comment was you could have had the faster cpu 4790k for cheaper than the 4770k, and you could have faster ram 2400MHz for cheaper than the 2133MHz. Not that the cpu would affect the ram. And that list does not show the CPU, Motherboard, or PSU prices. ~$359, ~$205, ~$129. That is a $1700 build.

a 6700k is $409, ddr4 2666 gskill ripjaws V 16GB is $80, I am seeing a gigabyte z170 SLI mainboard for $139, and that would let you use a samsung 950 pro, 256 GB $182 to have the newest tech at nearly the same price. $1750ish

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/QyfWxr

 

[kraelic]

saw the $900 budget after the post, I like Eximo's 2nd build with a tweak for overclocking,
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jdHHwP

or the 3rd without the aftermarket cooler if you will not overclock.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zrVN3C

 

[Eximo]

All GTX970 are essentially the same. Just variations in cooling and preset frequencies. The Twin Frozr is a good cooler and the card is said to overclock quite well if needed. The EVGA ACX SC the other person used comes with a high factory overclock preset. Nothing that can't be achieved with some tweaking.

I like the Thermaltake NiC cooler for its looks and decent cooling in an all black/red build. To go with a cheaper cooler I would opt for the Cryorig H7 cooler. It beats out the Evo 212 in price and performance (also easier to install)

Absolute cost to performance would be to just use the stock cooler with the i5-6400 or 6500. More then adequate for a locked processor. (just doesn't look good in a windowed case)

 

[Macenstein]

Not likely with Intel systems these days. There might be one or two more LGA1151 chips before the socket is retired, but that will be within a 'few years' time. GPU upgrades are likely to use less or equal power, not more, so not much concern there either. LGA1150 is already end of life, but it is not the most cost effective right now.

Could opt for an LGA2011v3 build, but that is significantly more expensive and would probably put you over budget.

Already having SSDs is nice, but you do lose out on newer speeds available (as much as three times faster) though that doesn't matter much. Looks like the last of the LGA1150 Asus VI and VII Hero boards are sold out, as well as the i7-4770k. You may not have noticed the missing prices, so that build is well over $900

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Ntg6YJ

A more reasonable build, but still a little high:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/QK47zy

So here is one without overclocking (CPU) and in your budget:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zDxz23

Eximo, how fast are SSDs now?
I have this one I was going to use for the OS..

Transcend 128GB MLC SATA III 6Gb/s 2.5" Solid State Drive 370 (TS128GSSD370S)
How much faster are they now?

 

[Macenstein]

also, what do you guys suggest for getting wifi on this thing? It doe not look like the ASRock H170 PERFORMANCE LGA1151 motherboard has built-in wifi

 

[Eximo]

The SATA 6Gbps bus is the limiter on traditional SSDs. They have offered PCIe drives for a while, but newer motherboards have adopted the same form factor as laptops. Small drives that slot into the motherboard. The recently released parts from Intel and Samsung use the NVMe protocol.

Not much information about your particular drive that I can find. I would suspect it is a mid-range consumer product with low write speeds but decent read speeds.

Maximum speed for SATA III drives was about 550-600MB/s.
I've seen 1800-2100MB/s listed for M.2 NVMe SSDs. There are also adapters for PCIe NVMe drives, but they do require the latest Intel chipsets, Z97, Z170 and X99.

Most motherboards don't come with built in WiFi. There are cheap PCIe 1x cards that can get you G and/or N speeds. But I recall there are some cheap Gigabyte and ASUS Wireless AC cards.

 

[Macenstein]

The SATA 6Gbps bus is the limiter on traditional SSDs. They have offered PCIe drives for a while, but newer motherboards have adopted the same form factor as laptops. Small drives that slot into the motherboard. The recently released parts from Intel and Samsung use the NVMe protocol.

Not much information about your particular drive that I can find. I would suspect it is a mid-range consumer product with low write speeds but decent read speeds.

Maximum speed for SATA III drives was about 550-600MB/s.
I've seen 1800-2100MB/s listed for M.2 NVMe SSDs. There are also adapters for PCIe NVMe drives, but they do require the latest Intel chipsets, Z97, Z170 and X99.

Most motherboards don't come with built in WiFi. There are cheap PCIe 1x cards that can get you G and/or N speeds. But I recall there are some cheap Gigabyte and ASUS Wireless AC cards.

ok... but those sound like something that would be more expensive than what I am building, no?
The built-in SSDs.on the motherboard?

 

[Eximo]

That is the nice thing, they aren't significantly more expensive then SATA drives. (My understanding is the protocol removes one control chip) You don't have to buy one, I was merely answering your questions.