River strategy

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I've been reasonably successful (for me anyways) playing wizards recently,
but decided to play an archer. I'm blocked by a river. Whats the
general strategy by which non-magic users get past them? Rivers feel
way too much like an exercise in scumming for the right item(s) early in
the game. My items aren't identified, so my options are fairly limited...

Are there any possibilities I'm missing:
teleport (wand/scroll/spell, trap [blanket, wand of trap creation])
cold (wand, spellbook, ogre mage, white dragon, etc)
swimming (via orange potion)
water breathing (helm, trident, shield)
bridge building (my skill is only 31. I've wasted four [HEAVY] logs so far
and have no extra hatchets to help train in this)

 

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frobnoid wrote:
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> I've been reasonably successful (for me anyways) playing wizards
> recently, but decided to play an archer. I'm blocked by a river.
> Whats the general strategy by which non-magic users get past them?
> Rivers feel way too much like an exercise in scumming for the right
> item(s) early in the game. My items aren't identified, so my options
> are fairly limited...
>
> Are there any possibilities I'm missing: teleport (wand/scroll/spell,
> trap [blanket, wand of trap creation]) cold (wand, spellbook, ogre
> mage, white dragon, etc) swimming (via orange potion) water breathing
> (helm, trident, shield) bridge building (my skill is only 31. I've
> wasted four [HEAVY] logs so far and have no extra hatchets to help
> train in this)

Well, there's always just running through the river with no means of
swimming. A lot of rivers have a small area where you can get past by
going through only 0-3 squares instead of 4, which can often be enough
to get by. Also, you can dig around most (all?) rivers around the edges
of the map (bottom and right edges mainly).

Btw frobnoid, your timestamps are off again.

 

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frobnoid wanted to get past a riverf

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If you havn't any already, spend a little while in the ID /
pickpocketing to get some carrot juice. Blup will teach swimming in
return for 1 blessed potion of carrot juice, or (I think) several
uncursed ones.

Also note that you can just turn back and go somewhere else until
you're a little more tough. There are plenty of locations to explore
in the early game.

 

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On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 18:45:40 -0700, Twinge wrote:

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> Well, there's always just running through the river with no means of
> swimming. A lot of rivers have a small area where you can get past by
> going through only 0-3 squares instead of 4, which can often be enough
> to get by. Also, you can dig around most (all?) rivers around the edges
> of the map (bottom and right edges mainly).

I hadn't even considered digging.
I eventually just plowed through it, all four squares, and survived.
Then had my bows destroyed by a vortex, then encountered ANOTHER river
(two rivers in the CoC before D10!) where I needed to swim a total of six
squares to get through (three swims: two, three and one) where I
eventually died due to drowning. Sigh.

> Btw frobnoid, your timestamps are off again.

Every time I reboot (which isn't very often), this happens... my bios
battery is dead and I have to guess what time it is when I reset the
machine if I don't have on my watch. (I'm not a very good guesser) Thanks
for letting me know.

 

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On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 19:18:25 -0800, KevinO wrote:

> frobnoid wanted to get past a riverf
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> If you havn't any already, spend a little while in the ID /
> pickpocketing to get some carrot juice. Blup will teach swimming in
> return for 1 blessed potion of carrot juice, or (I think) several
> uncursed ones.

I avoid the ID, it feels too scummy...

> Also note that you can just turn back and go somewhere else until
> you're a little more tough. There are plenty of locations to explore
> in the early game.

I tried. I'd finished DDL1, ND1 (aside from the golem), PC and VD, gotten
stuck at a river in the UD, and opted out of the ID. I wasn't yet ready
for the pyramid (not enough skill in detect traps).

 

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>From: frobnoid <frobn...@orders2.tmok.com>
>Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 23:23:52 -0500
>Subject: Re: River strategy
>On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 19:18:25 -0800, KevinO wrote:
>> frobnoid wanted to get past a river
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>> Also note that you can just turn back and go somewhere else until
>> you're a little more tough. There are plenty of locations to
explore
>> in the early game.
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>I tried. I'd finished DDL1, ND1 (aside from the golem), PC and VD,
gotten
>stuck at a river in the UD, and opted out of the ID. I wasn't yet
ready
>for the pyramid (not enough skill in detect traps).

Couldn't you just go to the CoC?

Also I don't really consider detect traps necessary for the Pyramid,
once you know the layout of the levels it's not too hard to muscle
through them. My playstyle is a big gung-ho though.

 

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frobnoid wrote:

>>Btw frobnoid, your timestamps are off again.
>
> Every time I reboot (which isn't very often), this happens... my bios
> battery is dead and I have to guess what time it is when I reset the
> machine if I don't have on my watch. (I'm not a very good guesser) Thanks
> for letting me know.

You could get the time from a time server in the internet. What kind of
operating system do you run, and how do you connect to the Internet?

Malte

 

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"KevinO" <dthspell@hotmail.com> wrote in
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>>From: frobnoid <frobn...@orders2.tmok.com>
>>Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 23:23:52 -0500
>>Subject: Re: River strategy
>>On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 19:18:25 -0800, KevinO wrote:
>>> frobnoid wanted to get past a river
>>
>>> h
>>> e
>>> r
>>> e
>>> '
>>> s
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>>> s
>>> o
>>> m
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>>> s
>>> p
>>> o
>>> i
>>> l
>>> y
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>>> h
>>> e
>>> l
>>> p
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>>> Also note that you can just turn back and go somewhere else until
>>> you're a little more tough. There are plenty of locations to
> explore
>>> in the early game.
>>
>>I tried. I'd finished DDL1, ND1 (aside from the golem), PC and VD,
> gotten
>>stuck at a river in the UD, and opted out of the ID. I wasn't yet
> ready
>>for the pyramid (not enough skill in detect traps).
>
> Couldn't you just go to the CoC?
>
> Also I don't really consider detect traps necessary for the Pyramid,
> once you know the layout of the levels it's not too hard to muscle
> through them. My playstyle is a big gung-ho though.
>
>

I always just bumble through them myself: the worst that can happen is
losing a nice bit of kit to an acid trap or a bow or a cloak to a fire
trap.

 

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On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 13:09:10 +0100, Malte Helmert wrote:

> frobnoid wrote:
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>>>Btw frobnoid, your timestamps are off again.
>>
>> Every time I reboot (which isn't very often), this happens... my bios
>> battery is dead and I have to guess what time it is when I reset the
>> machine if I don't have on my watch. (I'm not a very good guesser) Thanks
>> for letting me know.
>
> You could get the time from a time server in the internet. What kind of
> operating system do you run, and how do you connect to the Internet?

Yup. I'm linux and broadband based, so now I'm setup to sync via rdate on
each reboot (its easier to configure than ntp).

 

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On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 07:37:49 -0800, KevinO wrote:

>>From: frobnoid <frobn...@orders2.tmok.com>
>>Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 23:23:52 -0500
>>Subject: Re: River strategy
>>On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 19:18:25 -0800, KevinO wrote:
>>> frobnoid wanted to get past a river
>>
>>> h
>>> e
>>> r
>>> e
>>> '
>>> s
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>>> o
>>> m
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>>I tried. I'd finished DDL1, ND1 (aside from the golem), PC and VD,
> gotten
>>stuck at a river in the UD, and opted out of the ID. I wasn't yet
> ready
>>for the pyramid (not enough skill in detect traps).
>
> Couldn't you just go to the CoC?

I did, thats where I encontered the rivers.

 

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bork bork bork anxious triffid bork 6:23:49 PM bork 2/23/2005 bork bork:

> "KevinO" <dthspell@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:1109173069.672200.8350@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:
>
> > > From: frobnoid <frobn...@orders2.tmok.com>
> > > Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 23:23:52 -0500
> > > Subject: Re: River strategy
> > > On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 19:18:25 -0800, KevinO wrote:
> >>> frobnoid wanted to get past a river
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> > Also I don't really consider detect traps necessary for the Pyramid,
> > once you know the layout of the levels it's not too hard to muscle
> > through them. My playstyle is a big gung-ho though.
> >
> >
>
> I always just bumble through them myself: the worst that can happen is
> losing a nice bit of kit to an acid trap or a bow or a cloak to a fire
> trap.

The main danger is to kit you're actually wearing, so if you feel buff
enough, the best thing to do is to just not wear your best cloak and wield
your best bow (etc., but these two are the biggies) while bumbling around the
bottom two levels of the Pyramid.

Erik