ROG Swift PG279Q discoloration

[Eximo]

So my ROG Swift PG279Q came in yesterday and I have been testing it out. I could use some second opinions on what to do, hopefully from other owners, or the Acer XB270HU owners.

I don't have any dead pixels but significant yellowing in the entire lower right corner and a bright yellow spot on the top edge, close to the right corner. Not terribly noticeable in games but I can see the color difference, well writing this actually, and other white/gray/bright colors in that corner. And there seems to be some light bleed in the opposite corners. That may be normal though, hard to tell without matching side.

I think any color calibration is going to make one side or the other discolored, but haven't had a monitor worth calibrating before, so not much experience there.

Here is a pic:

http://imgur.com/c8kzwdA

Basically just want some discussion to help make a decision. Any input is welcome.

 

[Suzuki@1473780084@1473780163]

That's one major downside of IPS. I've seen worse, but not really something you can fix on your own. You could try massaging the display with a micro fibre cloth, sometimes does wonders. But if you want a perfect panel, you're going to have to send it back and hope for a better one. You can't calibrate to correct that when there's glow or bleed, or clouding. It's a display defect. Very unfortunatel. I doubt there's a perfect panel out there, I so far haven't seen a perfect color uniform IPS, just a TV, but that's a TV...

If you can't stand IPS defects, I would buy a VA, such as this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824014371&cm_re=EW2440l-_-24-014-371-_-Product

Not any "gaming" features, but I seriously doubt you'll ever go back to IPS after trying VA. Downside is refresh rate and viewing angles, though far better than TN. This particular panel equals an IPS' color reproduction which is pretty cool, really hard to tell the difference. If you're looking for a higher refresh VA, go with the FG2421... That's all I can tell you, IPS always have few defects...

 

[Eximo]

I suppose the picture doesn't really do it justice.

Certainly not perfect ones, but I have seen a few that have minor IPS glow and no yellow discoloration. Particularly the reviewed panels. I have also seen much much worse ones in other forums where all 3+ corners have been grossly yellow.

I don't think it would be that bad to keep it since it is intended for gaming. Basically it is the time/effort and risk in getting another one just as bad or worse. They don't cross ship, so it would be an RMA for a product that is virtually sold out.

 

[determinologyz]

[quotemsg=16967728,0,1930470]That's one major downside of IPS. I've seen worse, but not really something you can fix on your own. You could try massaging the display with a micro fibre cloth, sometimes does wonders. But if you want a perfect panel, you're going to have to send it back and hope for a better one. You can't calibrate to correct that when there's glow or bleed, or clouding. It's a display defect. Very unfortunatel. I doubt there's a perfect panel out there, I so far haven't seen a perfect color uniform IPS, just a TV, but that's a TV...

If you can't stand IPS defects, I would buy a VA, such as this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824014371&cm_re=EW2440l-_-24-014-371-_-Product

Not any "gaming" features, but I seriously doubt you'll ever go back to IPS after trying VA. Downside is refresh rate and viewing angles, though far better than TN. This particular panel equals an IPS' color reproduction which is pretty cool, really hard to tell the difference. If you're looking for a higher refresh VA, go with the FG2421... That's all I can tell you, IPS always have few defects...[/quotemsg]

Strange hope u get it fixed soon

 

[Suzuki@1473780084@1473780163]

Their new ROG Swift is using an IPS, and instead of the 278 it's referred to as 279. TN's don't have defects like that.

 

[Eximo]

Technically AHVA, but functionally an IPS/PLS screen.

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/asus_rog_swift_pg279q.htm

In all other aspects it is in fine working condition. Certainly a cut above my VE278Q. I can probably learn to live with that discoloration, but it is also more luminous in that corner. Only been two days, so I have a little time to get used to it before I have to really consider an RMA process.

I can make it less noticeable by increasing the brightness to eye-burning levels when the screen is displaying things. And reduce it significantly by reducing overall brightness when it is displaying darker scenes. But bright solid colors make it pretty noticeable.

 

[Suzuki@1473780084@1473780163]

OP, you may not think it's a big deal. However, if you have a electronics store with monitors, hopefully the EW2440L, you'll never ever go back to IPS again. I don't want to sound like I'm trying to convert you to VA, but you made a thread about IPS defects, and is looking for a fix. A lot of people think IPS is the best they can get for a PC, yeah 5 years ago that was true. VA are on par with IPS color reproduction today, not necessarily low end models, but low end match low end so to speak when it comes to IPS vs VA. Only downside is slightly worse viewing angles, literally it. Also, regarding IPS vs AHVA. IPS will be able to reach more accurate colors, but is slower than AHVA, which is why it's used as the main "gaming" panel right now, manufacturers want to further cut corners (lower cost) while fooling customers, it's their thing.

 

[mr91]

Apparently the guy in this thread has the monitor & doesn't have any issue's...

" Let us know because I'm thinking about upgrading to the to the pg279q from the pg278q...


http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2859378/asus-pg279q-mg279q.html

 

[Suzuki@1473780084@1473780163]

Interesting, well you never know, it's a lottery...

 

[mr91]

[quotemsg=16972779,0,1930470]Interesting, well you never know, it's a lottery... [/quotemsg]

Absolutely!

 

[mr91]

[quotemsg=16972779,0,1930470]Interesting, well you never know, it's a lottery... [/quotemsg]

Do you have the FG2421?

I like that monitor, too bad it doesn't have Gsync, They had them on display in Akihabara Japan in August when I was visiting.

 

[Suzuki@1473780084@1473780163]

No, I currently don't have any monitor, however I've seen it in person and it's great. I'm by no means an enthusiast when it comes to monitor, but the one I used to have was called 23Xi, it's an IPS. GSync in my opinion for a 1080p monitor like the FG2421 isn't worth it. I think GSync is more useful as it's currently used everywhere, in 2560x1440 or higher resolution panels, because you need to push 80-100 FPS which is not exactly cheap for GSync, for it to be worthless, but majority of people that buy them usually go with a single 980 Ti, or something along those lines.

 

[mr91]

I would like to see a 1440p Gsync Eizo...

" 1440p Gsync Eizo would probably cost $2000 + if produced lol "

I think Gsync is beneficial even at 1080p however it depends on the game you play.

 

[Suzuki@1473780084@1473780163]

The monitor market is upside down. The prices makes absolutely no sense. They're taking huge advantage of all the gamers buying their products. The panels used in the high end IPS "gaming" monitors are just AHVA's which they've did a good job telling people it's equal to IPS. GSync I think is great, but mostly a cash grab, I doubt people get annoyed by screen tearing and stuttering to the point the marketing teams suggest, with extreme examples like always. (AM)VA panels have been cheap for a long time, but if they got GSync or FreeSync, well... Chaos.

I don't understand the marketing behind the new gaming displays at all. Claim things like "Crystal clear picture quality" and the like, even at 8 bit or 8 bit tethered. But it's the consumers that create the hype, the brands selling them aren't really doing anything wrong, in my opinion, these prices are way more than how much I would ever spend on a computer monitor. They're seriously taking advantage of true high refresh rate displays, it's sad.

I'm biased towards TV's, but in terms of size, picture quality, they still win and at a lower price. So many complaints from my end, haha. I think OP should RMA until he gets a panel he's comfortable using, because clearly that's not the case, since he created this thread. I'm all for VA, I haven't found nearly as many people complaining like IPS "gaming" monitors out there. Instead you get respons such as (not a real quote) "It's just as black as my wall in a dark room during a movie". It's things like that, that really get me excited for monitors. Yeah I used to own an IPS monitor, but a VA TV makes up for it...

The day a high resolution (non 21:9) VA monitor, GSync comes out, that would be a good day to buy a monitor. But we know this isn't going to happen, because VA has got faster response time than IPS, and nearly equal in color reproduction nowadays. Really hard to tell the difference, ever for color sensitive work. So I think consumers would not buy the high end "gaming" monitors if that happens, but I don't think it will happen...


Edit: When I said non 21:9 monitors, I was referring to Acer's upcoming 2560x1080 VA, 144 Hz, GSync (going to make people switch for sure). Though I personally don't like 21:9. However, this one is a game changer, incase you haven't looked it up before.

http://us.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/predator-z35-series

"The Acer Predator Z35 will be available in December. It will cost $1,120"

Not that high price considering it's going to beat all current IPS panels due to less defects, and better contrast. The resolution however, is subjective, considering it's 35".

 

[mr91]

After using Gsync for 1 year I don't want to go back to a non Gsync panel for gaming however perhaps I just have a very discerning eye because i notice the stuttering and screen tearing in some but not all titles...

The PG278Q has good build quality and very good picture quality for a TN if you get a good sample...
The IPS & VA monitors do have better colors, contrast and viewing angles however are not as fast...

I was playing GTA 5 with the Eizo and I didn't notice any stuttering or Screen tearing and I was really impressed with the picture quality...
This is the only game that I tried and I didn't see any cut scenes where the screen tearing often happens...

" Considering the R&D and yields the cost for these new panels are not too bad however still very expensive for the average consumer"

Hopefully one day it will happen because even the ROG swift takes gaming to another level... A golden sample VA 144 hz 1440p monitor with Gsync and 1 ms response time would be nice....

 

[mr91]

[quotemsg=16972986,0,1930470]The monitor market is upside down. The prices makes absolutely no sense. They're taking huge advantage of all the gamers buying their products. The panels used in the high end IPS "gaming" monitors are just AHVA's which they've did a good job telling people it's equal to IPS. GSync I think is great, but mostly a cash grab, I doubt people get annoyed by screen tearing and stuttering to the point the marketing teams suggest, with extreme examples like always. (AM)VA panels have been cheap for a long time, but if they got GSync or FreeSync, well... Chaos.

I don't understand the marketing behind the new gaming displays at all. Claim things like "Crystal clear picture quality" and the like, even at 8 bit or 8 bit tethered. But it's the consumers that create the hype, the brands selling them aren't really doing anything wrong, in my opinion, these prices are way more than how much I would ever spend on a computer monitor. They're seriously taking advantage of true high refresh rate displays, it's sad.

I'm biased towards TV's, but in terms of size, picture quality, they still win and at a lower price. So many complaints from my end, haha. I think OP should RMA until he gets a panel he's comfortable using, because clearly that's not the case, since he created this thread. I'm all for VA, I haven't found nearly as many people complaining like IPS "gaming" monitors out there. Instead you get respons such as (not a real quote) "It's just as black as my wall in a dark room during a movie". It's things like that, that really get me excited for monitors. Yeah I used to own an IPS monitor, but a VA TV makes up for it...

The day a high resolution (non 21:9) VA monitor, GSync comes out, that would be a good day to buy a monitor. But we know this isn't going to happen, because VA has got faster response time than IPS, and nearly equal in color reproduction nowadays. Really hard to tell the difference, ever for color sensitive work. So I think consumers would not buy the high end "gaming" monitors if that happens, but I don't think it will happen...


Edit: When I said non 21:9 monitors, I was referring to Acer's upcoming 2560x1080 VA, 144 Hz, GSync (going to make people switch for sure). Though I personally don't like 21:9. However, this one is a game changer, incase you haven't looked it up before.

http://us.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/predator-z35-series

"The Acer Predator Z35 will be available in December. It will cost $1,120"

Not that high price considering it's going to beat all current IPS panels due to less defects, and better contrast. The resolution however, is subjective, considering it's 35".[/quotemsg]

That's interesting, there are so many monitors I didn't notice this one... I'm also not a fan of that wide aspect ratio however even if I was not all games and applications are optimized for this resolution. I like 2560 * 1440...

This is exciting news, I'm looking forward to an Asus or Eizo monitor with a VA panel and Gsync.

These monitors are selling well and I anticipate better quality gaming monitors coming out.
If I can get a good sample I might switch to the New IPS swift until Asus comes out with something better.
I'm not into the 4k or monitors or wide monitors at this point however I'm sure That Z35 would be great for racing games and RPG/s like Assassins creed and Witcher 3...