News RTX 3060 8GB, RTX 3060 Ti GDDR6X Allegedly Arrive In October

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Another maybe less probable alternative, but a much more appealing one, is for the future 3060 8Gb moving instead to a 256-bit wide bus. The gap between the vanilla 3060 and the 3060Ti is quite big, (bigger than usual in fact), and this change might help with that.

The cost of a wider bus can be absorbed by the lower memory count instead, and this will result in a better performing 3060 GPU for any case in which the 8Gb frame buffer is not completely filled, (which is the most probable use case scenario for this mainstream card). A better performing GPU for about the same mone is always a win...
 

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Another maybe less probable alternative, but a much more appealing one, is for the future 3060 8Gb moving instead to a 256-bit wide bus. The gap between the vanilla 3060 and the 3060Ti is quite big, (bigger than usual in fact), and this change might help with that.

The cost of a wider bus can be absorbed by the lower memory count instead, and this will result in a better performing 3060 GPU for any case in which the 8Gb frame buffer is not completely filled, (which is the most probable use case scenario for this mainstream card). A better performing GPU for about the same mone is always a win...
Except hardware maker will design their cards around maximum profit. The move to use 8GB is most likely so they can use 128bit instead of 192bit on the original 3060 12gb.
 

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Nvidia really needs to call it an RTX 3050 Ti if they are dropping it down to 8gb on a 128 bit bus. Any other name is a scummy marketing tactic
Why? A 3060 with 8GB of VRAM would still be 50-70% more powerful than a 3050. which is too much of a step up for typical non-Ti vs Ti variant. You just need to be a little more wary of VRAM load if you want to prioritize frame rates. If you aren't willing to make that sacrifice, you are free to pay $70-100 more for a 12GB model.
 

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Why? A 3060 with 8GB of VRAM would still be 50-70% more powerful than a 3050. which is too much of a step up for typical non-Ti vs Ti variant. You just need to be a little more wary of VRAM load if you want to prioritize frame rates. If you aren't willing to make that sacrifice, you are free to pay $70-100 more for a 12GB model.
why? because changing core specifications such as memory bus bandwidth while leaving the model name the same is predatory towards people who aren't as tech savvy as us. you're losing a third of the memory bus width meaning a 128-bit bus 8gb 3060 is going to be a fair bit slower than a 12gb model when bandwidth limited but will still be called a 3060. While not as egregious as the gt 1030 ddr4 vs gddr5 variants, it still falls in the same vein of shiesty and scummy marketing on nvidias part.
 

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While not as egregious as the gt 1030 ddr4 vs gddr5 variants, it still falls in the same vein of shiesty and scummy marketing on nvidias part.
Anyone with a working brain should be able to tell that a 8GB version of a product will likely not perform as good as a 12GB version in some if not all circumstances, especially when the 8GB version is $70+ cheaper. No need to be particularly tech-savvy for that, just plain old "bigger numbers are generally better." DDR4 vs GDDR5 is far worse since the difference can be as little as "D4" vs "G5" in the name which most people have no clue what they mean when present at all, many manufacturers mislabel DDR4 as GDDR4 to make things more confusing and the price difference between the two is only ~$10 on 2GB models.
 

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Anyone with a working brain should be able to tell that a 8GB version of a product will likely not perform as good as a 12GB version in some if not all circumstances, especially when the 8GB version is $70+ cheaper. No need to be particularly tech-savvy for that, just plain old "bigger numbers are generally better." DDR4 vs GDDR5 is far worse since the difference can be as little as "D4" vs "G5" in the name which most people have no clue what they mean when present at all, many manufacturers mislabel DDR4 as GDDR4 to make things more confusing and the price difference between the two is only ~$10 on 2GB models.
again, that is not always the case, a 3060 ti is a much faster card than a 3060 despite it having 8gb of ram compared to 12gb on the vanilla 3060.

the article made no mention of price, so im curious to know where youre getting a $70+ difference from. such a price difference will put the msrp of the 8gb version at $240 if we go off of the 12gb versions launch msrp of $330. Thats $10 cheaper than the launch msrp of the 3050. Going off of actual prices on the market, youd be looking at around $330 for an 8gb, or right about what a 3050 costs.
 

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again, that is not always the case, a 3060 ti is a much faster card than a 3060 despite it having 8gb of ram compared to 12gb on the vanilla 3060.
If you cannot tell Ti from non-Ti, 8GB from 12GB or that the SKUs are priced $50-200 apart, then you must be blind and there is no helping you.

the article made no mention of price, so im curious to know where youre getting a $70+ difference from. such a price difference will put the msrp of the 8gb version at $240 if we go off of the 12gb versions launch msrp of $330.
My $70 is based on ~$35 cheaper from having 4GB less VRAM, $5 cheaper from cutting some incidental manufacturing costs, then you add the ~60% typical markup over manufacturing, packaging, shipping, etc. costs and retail markups. There you go, ~$70 vs current retail prices.
 

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If you cannot tell Ti from non-Ti, 8GB from 12GB or that the SKUs are priced $50-200 apart, then you must be blind and there is no helping you.


My $70 is based on ~$35 cheaper from having 4GB less VRAM, $5 cheaper from cutting some incidental manufacturing costs, then you add the ~60% typical markup over manufacturing, packaging, shipping, etc. costs and retail markups. There you go, ~$70 vs current retail prices.
the official launch msrp of the 3060 was $329 while the 3060 ti official launch msrp was $399, granted only FE models ever saw official launch prices. The thing is, I can guarantee there are people out there right now who bought the 3060 for its 12gb of ram over the 3060 ti with its 8gb because "more is better" according to marketing. adding a third sku to the mix will only further muddy the waters. at the end of the day, its another shameless cash grab by nvidia like the 3080 12gb, just at the other end of the price spectrum this time around.

lets wait and see the actual price difference before making assumptions on said price difference.
 

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