Question RTX 3060 paired with an i7 4790K

[Johb]

Hello,

Do you think it's relevant to replace my GTX 1060 with an RTX 3060 ?
I'm a casual gamer and would like to run games like Cyberpunk 2077 or Tiny Tina's Wonderlands

CPU : i7 4790K @ 4.0GHz
RAM : 16 Go DDR3 @ 666MHz
Mobo : Asus Z79-A (PCIe 3.0)
PSU : Corsair RM850

 

[green.masood]

Hello,

Do you think it's relevant to replace my GTX 1060 with an RTX 3060 ?
I'm a casual gamer and would like to run games like Cyberpunk 2077 or Tiny Tina's Wonderlands

CPU : i7 4790K @ 4.0GHz
RAM : 16 Go DDR3 @ 666MHz
Mobo : Asus Z79-A (PCIe 3.0)

3060 is not convinient for your build.bottle neck is imminent in this way. either upgrade cpu or dont buy 3060.
1080 is more suitable for you
3060 needs at leat 8700k IMO

 

[Johb]

Thanks for the idea. A quick search indicates that 1080s became rare enough to be as pricey as 3060s tho. What would be the closest more recent GPU ?

How about a RX 6600 8GB ?

 

[kizo]

Thanks for the idea. A quick search indicates that 1080s became rare enough to be as pricey as 3060s tho. What would be the closest more recent GPU ?

Get 2060 over 1080.
Less VRAM,but there is DLSS.

 

[green.masood]

Thanks for the idea. A quick search indicates that 1080s became rare enough to be as pricey as 3060s tho. What would be the closest more recent GPU ?

again i say recent gpu needs recent cpu and mobo.
imo 1080 or 1070 are the best options.
as a piece of advice if your pocket assists upgrade your build or find a 1080
apart from price your system should be coordinate.

 

[kizo]

again i say recent gpu needs recent cpu and mobo.
imo 1080 or 1070 are the best options.
as a piece of advice if your pocket assists upgrade your build or find a 1080
apart from price your system should be coordinate.

Why is 1070 better option than for example 2060?
Or 1080 than 2060 for that matter?
With DLSS ,1440p is not out of the question.

 

[USAFRet]

Will a 3060 work? Yes.
Is it a bit of overkill for that system? Yes.

Questions like this always bring out the B word, along with its usual misconceptions.

Given no other changes except the GPU, your overall system performance does not go down, no matter what some mythical bottleneck may ensue.

 

[green.masood]

Why is 1070 better option than for example 2060?
Or 1080 than 2060 for that matter?
With DLSS ,1440p is not out of the question.

Because there is not much harmony.
2060 is a powerful graphic processing unit.it should paired with a better rig.it,s just personal opinion

 

[kizo]

Will a 3060 work? Yes.
Is it a bit of overkill for that system? Yes.

Questions like this always bring out the B word, along with its usual misconceptions.

Given no other changes except the GPU, your overall system performance does not go down, no matter what some mythical bottleneck may ensue.

It's not mystical.
Just almost mystical.
At 1080p.
At 1440p is significantly lowered and perhaps not as noticeable.
At 4K non-existant in average frames.

Fix for 1080p is/should be Raytracing to max IF mysticism becomes reality.

That being said, the difference between 4790K and 3060 is dramatically lower than i3 8100 and 4070Ti(or was it 4070?) like in that other topic

 

[kizo]

Because there is not much harmony.
2060 is a powerful graphic processing unit.it should paired with a better rig.it,s just personal opinion

In rasterisation, 2060 is slightly below 1080 at 1080p.
Quite harmonious rig.

At 1440p 1080 pulls further away I think.
But with DLSS 2060 races ahead.
In some older titles ,4790K could with 2060 with DLSS provide enjoyable 4K experience.

 

[USAFRet]

It's not mystical.
Just almost mystical.
At 1080p.
At 1440p is significantly lowered and perhaps not as noticeable.
At 4K non-existant in average frames.

Fix for 1080p is/should be Raytracing to max IF mysticism becomes reality.

That being said, the difference between 4790K and 3060 is dramatically lower than i3 8100 and 4070Ti(or was it 4070?) like in that other topic

As said........
"Given no other changes except the GPU..."

If you also change the resolution, of COURSE the older CPU may not be able to push that same framerate.

 

[kizo]

As said........
"Given no other changes except the GPU..."

If you also change the resolution, of COURSE the older CPU may not be able to push that same framerate.

What resolution did you have in mind anyway?
Perhaps shift your focus to green.masood who thinks 2060 is trouble.

 

[green.masood]

In rasterisation, 2060 is slightly below 1080.
Quite harmonious rig.

There is other factor: the newer a GPU has been released, the more performance it provide apart from RT,DLSS,CUDA CORES ,....

 

[kizo]

There is other factor: the newer a GPU has been released, the more performance it provide apart from RT,DLSS,CUDA CORES ,....

Hey you suggested GRX1080 and 1070 not me.
I just mentioned 2060 as alternative to those 2.
Between those 2 ,but with more modern feature set.
We don't know his target resolution, fps, Raytracing ON or Raytracing OFF,how soon he plans to upgrade CPU etc

IF he will play at 1440P Ultra with Raytracing or at 4K ,3060 is perfect.
4060 is better though.
Nvidia has big plans for DLSS3 , I think.
Which makes 4060 better for 4K...except when AMD decides to block DLSS in AMD sponsored titles like Jedi Survivor or Starfield

 

[green.masood]

Hey you suggested GRX1080 and 1070 not me.
I just mentioned 2060 as alternative to those 2.
Between those 2 ,but with more modern feature set.
We don't know his target resolution, fps, Raytracing ON or Raytracing OFF,how soon he plans to upgrade CPU etc

IF he will play at 1440P Ultra with Raytracing or at 4K ,3060 is perfect.
4060 is better though.
Nvidia has big plans for DLSS3 , I think.
Which makes 4060 better for 4K...except when AMD decides to block DLSS in AMD sponsored titles like Jedi Survivor or Starfield

I suggested 1080 bc of 4th gen.
All of the components should be great not just one of them
4060 and i7-4790? Are you f.kidding me?

 

[kizo]

I suggested 1080 bc of 4th gen.
All of the components should be great not just one of them
4060 and i7-4790? Are you f.kidding me?

I am not.
For 1440pUltra and/or 4K why not?
The higher you go with resolution and settings ,the lower the bottleneck.
At 4K,it makes not much difference between 4790K and your 10700K in average frames.
If at all
Maybe in 1% lows,but that's rarely huge problem.
And he can treat 4790K as a placeholder.
He is sure to upgrade eventually.

 

[green.masood]

Right.upgrading is imminent if we avoid bottle necking

 

[kizo]

Right.upgrading is imminent if we avoid bottle necking

Bottlenecking problems are in most cases an exaggeration.
At 720pLow,I am sure there would be place for concerne.
But not at 1440pUltra with RT or 4K

 

[Johb]

Thank you guys, I've learned a lot on that topic.
One can find used 1080s at half the price of a new 3060 so I'll probably go for that and hope the computer lives a few more years ^^

 

[kizo]

Thank you guys, I've learned a lot on that topic.
One can find used 1080s at half the price of a new 3060 so I'll probably go for that and hope the computer lives a few more years ^^

for a few more years 2060 is preferable over 1080 because of DLSS which can sometimes double or triple and more the performance depending on the DLSS mode you use.
But AMD is lately blocking DLSS in titles they sponsored.
Like Starfield.
that being said GTX1080 though is not terrible choice either.

 

[Johb]

for a few more years 2060 is preferable over 1080 because of DLSS which can sometimes double or triple and more the performance depending on the DLSS mode you use.
But AMD is lately blocking DLSS in titles they sponsored.
Like Starfield.
that being said GTX1080 though is not terrible choice either.

Thanks for the insight. I'll look into 2060s.

 

[kizo]

Thanks for the insight. I'll look into 2060s.

IF you would play at 1440p Ultra perhaps even with Raytracing or 4K , 3060 might not be terrible choice.
Or RX6600 for that matter which is between 2060 and 3060 in rasterisation(I am unsure if RX6600 can match it).
At this point unless you get used 1080 or 2060 , they are more than likely overpriced.
So RX6600 would probably be best choice since it is just 200$.

 

[Johb]

IF you would play at 1440p Ultra perhaps even with Raytracing or 4K , 3060 might not be terrible choice.
Or RX6600 for that matter which is between 2060 and 3060 in rasterisation(I am unsure if RX6600 can match it).
At this point unless you get used 1080 or 2060 , they are more than likely overpriced.
So RX6600 would probably be best choice since it is just 200$.

Since I don't have a 1440p monitor and used 1080s & 2060s are the same price, which one would you recommend ? There's a 70€ difference between those and a new RX 6600 so I'll likely go with NVIDIA here

 

[kizo]

Since I don't have a 1440p monitor and used 1080s & 2060s are the same price, which one would you recommend ? There's a 70€ difference between those and a new RX 6600 so I'll likely go with NVIDIA here

RX6600 is comfortably stronger than those 2.
GTX1080 has nothing to help it match or beat 6600.
2060 has DLSS to help it.
With RX6600 being stronger and having FSR2.1 or whatever is latest version at its disposale the DLSS would not necesarily help 2060 to win,even if DLSS 2.3 or whichever is typicaly better.
Even if it would,it would be usually be minor difference.
It does tend to have cleaner picture quality vs FSR.

IF you are not into Raytracing or consider it just a nice bonus to just occasionaly use.then RX6600 would be my choice.

IF you are into RT even 2060 is not so terrible as some many claim,especially with DLSS.
In RT department 2060 will beat 6600 with or without DLSS.
Demolish it with DLSS.

Both 1080 and 2060 can use FSR as well as Intel Xess that is also supported by 6600.
Xess is often better than FSR from what I noticed,but in less games for now.

AMD is actively blocking DLSS implementation is AMD sponsored games.
And Xess as well I think.

All in all.I would go with RX6600.
I imagine 2 years Warranty is worth 70 Euros.
Unless you need it for content creation.
Video editing and stuff in Da Vinci resolve.
Then 6600 is not best choice of the 3.