Question RTX 3080 or RTX 3090 for 1440p ?

[bingaloman]

Hello everyone,

So I recently just purchased an RTX 3080 12gb from a retailer for $799. After purchasing, I find a posting from someone selling a brand new sealed and unopened RTX 3090 EVGA FTW3 Ultra for only $40 more than what I paid.

Is it worth it in your opinions to return the RTX 3080 and buy the RTX 3090 for $40 more? My only concern obviously is that if I get the RTX 3090 from the seller, I won't be able to return if anything happens, but I assume that warranty would still work even if I don't have the original receipt.

Thanks!

 

[DSzymborski]

Since this is EVGA, you can. EVGA is usually quite good at honoring warranties and they explicitly have a secondhand warranty that provides protections for someone buying used or from an unauthorized reseller. Not all GPU brands do this and some can be very strict about this.

However make sure you document the purchase as much as possible.

• Secondhand owners are required to provide a proof of purchase if the product was shipped from EVGA on or after May 25th, 2018. If the product shipped from EVGA prior to May 25th, 2018, no proof of purchase is required.
• Secondhand owners should provide a proof of purchase showing the sale between the current owner (i.e. YOU) and previous owner (i.e. the person selling the card). This may be as simple as a screenshot of a PayPal invoice, Venmo invoice, Amazon Payments invoice, Ebay invoice, etc. It is understood that sometimes sales are not done online, so another means of showing the sale, even if it's made for the purpose of this proof of purchase, is acceptable.

I also would only do this if the purchase is being made on a platform in which you have recourse if there's dishonesty involved in the condition of the card. So no cash and no Facebook Marketplace.

 

[bingaloman]

Since this is EVGA, you can. EVGA is usually quite good at honoring warranties and they explicitly have a secondhand warranty that provides protections for someone buying used or from an unauthorized reseller. Not all GPU brands do this and some can be very strict about this.

However make sure you document the purchase as much as possible.

I also would only do this if the purchase is being made on a platform in which you have recourse if there's dishonesty involved in the condition of the card. So no cash and no Facebook Marketplace.

It was a posting from Facebook Marketplace actually. The pictures show the box still sealed so I figured it would be safe.

 

[DSzymborski]

It was a posting from Facebook Marketplace actually. The pictures show the box still sealed so I figured it would be safe.

I would definitely pass then. "Sealed" means nothing here as there's no actual security function; making something appear sealed and even an amateur re-shrinkwrap are trivial tasks. If you find out that your 3090 isn't as sealed as it looks or that there's 550 Ti inside, you will have no recourse from Facebook Marketplace, which only offers protections for very specific retail purchases.

 

[KyaraM]

You don't need either a 3080 and especially not a 3090 for 1440p...

 

[Dragos Manea]

You don't need either a 3080 and especially not a 3090 for 1440p...

For 144 Hz and cyberpunk yes you need.

 

[bingaloman]

I would definitely pass then. "Sealed" means nothing here as there's no actual security function; making something appear sealed and even an amateur re-shrinkwrap are trivial tasks. If you find out that your 3090 isn't as sealed as it looks or that there's 550 Ti inside, you will have no recourse from Facebook Marketplace, which only offers protections for very specific retail purchases.

In that case, I did find an RTX 3080 TI from an actual retailer for the exact same price that I bought the non TI RTX 3080 12gb. The RTX 3080 TI is the Gigabyte Gaming OC. The 3080 non ti that I have is the Asus ROG Strix 12gb. Is it worth exchanging my Asus 3080 for the Gigabyte 3080 TI if the 3080 ti is the same price?

 

[Phaaze88]

Is it worth exchanging my Asus 3080 for the Gigabyte 3080 TI if the 3080 ti is the same price?

Worth varies from person to person; it's a personal thing you determine.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-geforce-rtx-3080-12-gb-strix-oc/31.html

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBDFtJ4lR2c
(Average Performance at 7:07 - 8:15)

^Do you think that's worth it?

 

[KyaraM]

For 144 Hz and cyberpunk yes you need.

In which parallel universe, exactly, do you need that? And come down from those stupid, overblown FPS numbers, it's not a shooter, you don't ever need those. Stop buying into that garbage propaganda from people who try to upsell you, ffs.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsDX0hE-Jho

Edit: and that is with literally everything on including RT.

 

[Dragos Manea]

How much difference do you think it is between 3070 ti and 3080, same as between 3080 and 3090, almost none.

 

[KyaraM]

How much difference do you think it is between 3070 ti and 3080, same as between 3080 and 3090, almost none.

Weird, then, that people make it a big difference. If that's the case, you basically admitted that there is also little difference between a 3070 and a 3080, because there is barely any between the 3070 and 3070Ti after all. And from there, we can move all the way down the stack...

Also, thanks for proving my point.

 

[Dragos Manea]

Weird, then, that people make it a big difference. If that's the case, you basically admitted that there is also little difference between a 3070 and a 3080, because there is barely any between the 3070 and 3070Ti after all. And from there, we can move all the way down the stack...

Also, thanks for proving my point.

Yes and he already has a 3080 so in my opinion if OP doesnt need the huge 24 GB memory (how i did, i got the 3090 for the memory) then he should keep the 3080.

EDIT: Comparison

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX3p2JCkQGc&ab_channel=TestingGames

 

[cAllen]

While I think it's fair to point out the factual differences between graphics cards or any other component when a request is made, it's the end user that decides their needs, wants and value.

 

[Nighthawk117]

Hello everyone,

So I recently just purchased an RTX 3080 12gb from a retailer for $799. After purchasing, I find a posting from someone selling a brand new sealed and unopened RTX 3090 EVGA FTW3 Ultra for only $40 more than what I paid.

Is it worth it in your opinions to return the RTX 3080 and buy the RTX 3090 for $40 more? My only concern obviously is that if I get the RTX 3090 from the seller, I won't be able to return if anything happens, but I assume that warranty would still work even if I don't have the original receipt.

Thanks!

Don't waste your time, stick with the 3080 that you've got. You cannot be certain of the true condition of the 3090, as you say you have no retailer to return it to if you were to encounter any issues. Why someone would want to sell a 'brand new' one also makes me sceptical. It's only marginally faster than the 3080, you do not need 24GB of VRAM for 1440p gaming. You already have an additional 2GB over the original 3080.

In short your taking an unnecessary risk for very little gain. Just enjoy your computer and stop tinkering

 

[PEnns]

Do yourself (and your wallet AND your mind) a favor and stay with the 3080.

The gains between all the models you mentioned are not even worth it when playing at the mentioned resolutions.

 

[Cookiezaddict]

Hello everyone,

So I recently just purchased an RTX 3080 12gb from a retailer for $799. After purchasing, I find a posting from someone selling a brand new sealed and unopened RTX 3090 EVGA FTW3 Ultra for only $40 more than what I paid.

Is it worth it in your opinions to return the RTX 3080 and buy the RTX 3090 for $40 more? My only concern obviously is that if I get the RTX 3090 from the seller, I won't be able to return if anything happens, but I assume that warranty would still work even if I don't have the original receipt.

Thanks!

lmao how is the warranty would work with original receipt? Even with receipt, often it should be from authorised dealer

and dude, if you ain’t happy with that 3080? And you purchased it from reliable store that honour their customers? Why don’t you trade it back for 3090? Simple as that. You get great support, warranty covered, for how much? $100 extra? Boom.

 

[Cookiezaddict]

You don't need either a 3080 and especially not a 3090 for 1440p...

have you played any heavy games on ultra 1440? Lol Try flight simulator, and even then, any outcome that is below 60Hz hurt my eyes and many people in general, hence we get 144-165hz monitor, and get powerful gpu to afford that, get all the details and stuffs, while maintaining smooth gameplay. A gameplay of at least 90-120fps would be much smoother, a lot smoother than just 58fps 😂

quit bragging about *** stuff,

 

[sizzling]

have you played any heavy games on ultra 1440? Lol Try flight simulator, and even then, any outcome that is below 60Hz hurt my eyes and many people in general, hence we get 144-165hz monitor, and get powerful gpu to afford that, get all the details and stuffs, while maintaining smooth gameplay. A gameplay of at least 90-120fps would be much smoother, a lot smoother than just 58fps 😂

quit bragging about *** stuff,

If you must use ultra settings then yes a handful of games will really stress a 3080 at 1440p. However, there is a question why is ultra settings important? Unless comparing screenshots side by side I expect most people would struggle to tell the difference between high/very high and ultra settings from a detail perspective in a blind test of gameplay. I have a 3080 which I used predominantly for over a year at 1440p 144Hz and then for about 7 months on a 1440p 240Hz. All I am saying is a 3080 is not necessary for 1440p 144Hz but it is a nice to have.

 

[Nighthawk117]

have you played any heavy games on ultra 1440? Lol Try flight simulator, and even then, any outcome that is below 60Hz hurt my eyes and many people in general, hence we get 144-165hz monitor, and get powerful gpu to afford that, get all the details and stuffs, while maintaining smooth gameplay. A gameplay of at least 90-120fps would be much smoother, a lot smoother than just 58fps 😂

quit bragging about *** stuff,

There isn't that much difference between the 3080 and 3090 in most instances, the 3080 in my view though is a premium 1440p card rather than a 4k card. A personal thing perhaps but I don't really see the value in playing every game at 144hz.

 

[Cookiezaddict]

If you must use ultra settings then yes a handful of games will really stress a 3080 at 1440p. However, there is a question why is ultra settings important? Unless comparing screenshots side by side I expect most people would struggle to tell the difference between high/very high and ultra settings from a detail perspective in a blind test of gameplay. I have a 3080 which I used predominantly for over a year at 1440p 144Hz and then for about 7 months on a 1440p 240Hz. All I am saying is a 3080 is not necessary for 1440p 144Hz but it is a nice to have.

Well it’s all preference really, if any, why would play 4k at all? Or why we even have gaming PC not just stick to series X or PS5? It is all about choices and in the end, it’s BS if we say medium high 1440p is just as nice as ultra 1440p. If we say, it is ‘enough’ then yes. Again, some people don’t need enough, some people want more, and more, and more, and what is wrong with that? Nothing.

Also, this would even matter more if we already have higher end monitor, that’s why it’s all related. You wouldn’t want to run a 3070 when you are playing flight simulator and have 1440p 144hz monitor. It is all depends on games too, such as F1, Flight Simulator, PUBG, for those games, the difference between High Vs Ultra setting can be very obvious, if someone cannot notice that, it’s their eyes and preference. I have sensitive eyes, even I’d throw up watching contents on 60hz TV, no offense, but for me, if not 120hz, I wouldn’t watch the tv, won’t buy it.

Preference preference preference.

I am not even a gamer and I know this.

AGAIN, if wanna discuss about enough, why we even talk about 3070 rig, just get Xbox series X for gaming, that is far more than enough lol. Or if games only available on PC, just get RX 6600, that is more than enough and cheap.


Oh and about not necessary for 1440p 144hz, that thing wouldn’t even reach 90fps on flight simulator at qhd high to ultra set up as soon as we use details city scape and it will feels ‘heavily pushed’. Hahaha

again it is all depends on the games and preference, monitors and stuffs. People pay for higher end monitor for ‘immersive’ details, and to get to such details, they get better cards, all related once again.

Preference, not the matter of what is enough. If the matter of what is enough, get x box series x? No cyberpunk? Lol who the hell even play cyberpunk! Bahahahhaha

There isn't that much difference between the 3080 and 3090 in most instances, the 3080 in my view though is a premium 1440p card rather than a 4k card. A personal thing perhaps but I don't really see the value in playing every game at 144hz.

The higher end the cards the less difference within quality margin we would see. Even 3090ti isn’t really a good 4k card. The good high fps 4k card is the next generation card that will be available Next Year.

Current generation cards are more like 1080p killer for up to 6700xt and 3070, and 1440 beast for up to 6900xt and 3090ti.

People arguing about 3070 for qhd or 3090 for uhd, need to understand that, if all just about being enough, anything above 40fps is already playable for most game, anything within 60-90fps is enough, above 120fps is where the smooth experience can really occur. Enjoying all the smallest details and stuffs at higher fps? It’s a premium, hence we pay more for that

I was replying someone who said 3070 is enough and make the choice of 3080 or 3090 sounds stupid lol. And I confuse why there are always these bums coming to brag about low end cards whenever someone is discussing better quality cards? Always man, always

 

[Nighthawk117]

The higher end the cards the less difference within quality margin we would see. Even 3090ti isn’t really a good 4k card. The good high fps 4k card is the next generation card that will be available Next Year.

Current generation cards are more like 1080p killer for up to 6700xt and 3070, and 1440 beast for up to 6900xt and 3090ti.

People arguing about 3070 for qhd or 3090 for uhd, need to understand that, if all just about being enough, anything above 40fps is already playable for most game, anything within 60-90fps is enough, above 120fps is where the smooth experience can really occur. Enjoying all the smallest details and stuffs at higher fps? It’s a premium, hence we pay more for that

I was replying someone who said 3070 is enough and make the choice of 3080 or 3090 sounds stupid lol. And I confuse why there are always these bums coming to brag about low end cards whenever someone is discussing better quality cards? Always man, always

I agree the top end cards are not overkill for 1440p. For me the more you buy the longer it will last and the fewer graphical compromises you will have to make. People have different perceptions of what is 'good enough' though. Personally I think 60 FPS is 'good enough' in most games. I have a 165hz monitor and 3080, 144hz is much nicer in Halo Infinite than it is in Assassin's Creed or Star Wars Fallen Order in my view. If you want to run 144hz in almost every game then that can be quite challenging even for top end hardware.

Some games though if you want all the candy are killers even at 60hz. Cyberpunk is a good example, if you don't use DLSS then even 1080p will max out a 3080.

 

[Cookiezaddict]

I agree the top end cards are not overkill for 1440p. For me the more you buy the longer it will last and the fewer graphical compromises you will have to make. People have different perceptions of what is 'good enough' though. Personally I think 60 FPS is 'good enough' in most games. I have a 165hz monitor and 3080, 144hz is much nicer in Halo Infinite than it is in Assassin's Creed or Star Wars Fallen Order in my view. If you want to run 144hz in almost every game then that can be quite challenging even for top end hardware.

Some games though if you want all the candy are killers even at 60hz. Cyberpunk is a good example, if you don't use DLSS then even 1080p will max out a 3080.

Exactly right…. All about perspective perspective… people who think mid to low tier cards are all we need, will learn how in 2-3 years those rx 6600 - 6700xt or rtx 3060 -3070 means nothing while 6800xt and 3080 will be the very bare minimum for quality gaming experience. OP just buy a card today, if I were OP, I’d go 3090, simply because it’s stronger, will last slightly longer and for what? 100 extra?

Keep it this way too,

I would rather have an ‘overkill’ gpu, and experience quiet system all day long where my gpu fans barely spins, instead of having budget gpu where my system make so much fans noises due to hardwares being pushed. 😂

It’s like a very old NVIDIA GTX would be enough to play CS:GO, but playing CS:GO with 3070 will make the system a lot quieter, gpu fans wouldn’t even spin.

same logic applies to 3070 vs 3090 when we play a much demanding game, all argument will end up with 3070 being said to be ‘enough’ 😂

 

[Zerk2012]

Facebook marketplace ouch.

Was looking for a bass boat found a good price on facebook went and looked at the boat.

When I took the cover off the motor to run a compression check on each cylinder I seen the data plate on the motor had been ground off.

250HP Mercury outboard with the data plate ground off = stolen motor.

 

[emitfudd]

I have a 3080 10GB paired with a 5900X. I like to set all my games to ultra because I can. I have a 165Hz, 1440P setup capped at 160FPS with Rivatuner. I am nowhere near getting 160FPS consistently. In fact I am playing Conan Exiles right now and I get dips down into the 50's in crowded areas. You can always use more GPU as long as the rest of your system isn't bottlenecking.

With that being said I would probably just keep the 3080.

I'm surprised nobody has asked about the rest of your system (unless I missed it). Your CPU may already be a bottleneck with a 3080.

 

[Zerk2012]

have you played any heavy games on ultra 1440? Lol Try flight simulator, and even then, any outcome that is below 60Hz hurt my eyes and many people in general, hence we get 144-165hz monitor, and get powerful gpu to afford that, get all the details and stuffs, while maintaining smooth gameplay. A gameplay of at least 90-120fps would be much smoother, a lot smoother than just 58fps 😂

quit bragging about *** stuff,

LOL have you actually tried those cards on that game 2 FPS difference in the 3080 and 3090 @1440p.

2:45 mark.

And most shops will in no way let you return a working as expected card for what you paid for it without a restock fee since it's now used and they can't sell it as a new card anymore.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8V3Z2C6OIyk