News RTX 3080 Ti Hits MSRP at Newegg as GPU Prices Slowly Normalize

[Admin]

RTX 3080 Ti pricing hits MSRP levels, while other RTX 30 Series cards are also becoming more affordable.

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[bolweval]

$1200 for the second tier card is normal???

 

[hotaru.hino]

$1200 for the second tier card is normal???

If we continue to believe that $500 for a flagship card is normal, then sure, this is abnormal. Although video cards used to launch for $300.

 

[Eximo]

3rd tier, 3090 Ti is out there, but I would lump all three in the excessive category. When I was shopping for a card, it was either a $1000+ 3080 or a 3080Ti at MSRP ($1400 for the FTW3)

2080 at launch was $800, then the super was re-released at $700 just like the 3080.

2080Ti was also $1200 at launch for the FE. MSRP for the later launched AIB cards was $1000

Looking back, GTX 480 launched for $500 in 2010, which is $659 today. So they really aren't far off. Just that they've made excessively larger and larger GPUs in new price categories.

GTX480 529mm with 3 billion transistors =~5.6 million transistors per mm squared.
RTX 30880 is 628mm with 28.3 billion transistors =~ 45 million transistors per mm squared

So bang for the buck is certainly a thing.

We just happened to live through a golden age where prices remained fixed while performance went up. People still believed in Moore's law. Not so much now.

 

[C.wolf]

If we continue to believe that $500 for a flagship card is normal, then sure, this is abnormal. Although video cards used to launch for $300.

Right,,, and in 1955 you could buy a new Volkswagen for $999.

 

[jacob249358]

Just wanted to throw this out there for the people talking about how prices are rising. 1. SLI is no longer a thing.
2. What does that hardware get you compared to what games are out there? You can play anything at 4k with a 3080 which ¨should¨ cost $800. 5-6 years ago you needed multiple GPUs to do that. (at least I think so)

 

[10tacle]

"The $170 premium for the EVGA is somewhat expected given its higher GPU clock, iCX3 cooling technology, metal backplate and abundance of RGB lighting."

As a long time EVGA buyer, you also pay for their industry leading customer support. I only had to use it once with a failing GTX 970 which was no longer available (I had 2 in SLI), and after verifying the card went bad after I sent it to them, they gave me a $300 credit towards a new purchase which I bought a 1080 Ti with (my SC model cards originally were $339 a piece). The whole process took less than two weeks between reporting the failure and getting my discounted 1080 Ti.

Right,,, and in 1955 you could buy a new Volkswagen for $999.

People just don't get it. GPUs have grown in both importance and power in a gaming rig, and with every higher resolution monitor launch, it requires a more powerful GPU. In the old days, we'd just add a second card for SLI or Crossfire for that. But that ship sailed years ago. Everything now is a single GPU solution for game developers (you can thank consoles for that starting with the PS3 and XB), and if you want to play with the eye candy and high resolutions while hitting at least 60FPS - or the more recent trend of faster 120-240Hz monitors at lower resolutions matching that FPS - you'll have to pay. Prior to my $749 1080 Ti the most I ever paid was $539 for a 2GB 680. That 680 was a regrettable purchase with the longevity span of a gnat in computer relevance as I moved up to my first 2560x1440 monitor. My two 970s in SLI cost more than that 1080 Ti but didn't have the performance at higher resolutions where VRAM matters (and yes, I filed for and got the $30/per card refund from the Nvidia lawsuit).

^^And Jacob essentially states the same thing, and is correct.

But back to card prices, today's $330 EVGA 8GB RTX 3060 XC Gaming wrecks the $499 Founder's Edition RTX 2070 or the $459 reference RTX 1070 Ti. The $749 RTX 3080 wipes the floor of the $1,100 RTX 2080 Ti just as an example of relevance with each new generation, their tiers, and their respective price points .

 

[SunMaster]

People just don't get it. GPUs have grown in both importance and power in a gaming rig, and with every higher resolution monitor launch, it requires a more powerful GPU. In the old days, we'd just add a second card for SLI or Crossfire for that. But that ship sailed years ago. Everything now is a single GPU solution for game developers (you can thank consoles for that starting with the PS3 and XB), and if you want to play with the eye candy and high resolutions while hitting at least 60FPS - or the more recent trend of faster 120-240Hz monitors at lower resolutions matching that FPS - you'll have to pay. Prior to my $749 1080 Ti the most I ever paid was $539 for a 2GB 680. That 680 was a regrettable purchase with the longevity span of a gnat in computer relevance as I moved up to my first 2560x1440 monitor. My two 970s in SLI cost more than that 1080 Ti but didn't have the performance at higher resolutions where VRAM matters (and yes, I filed for and got the $30/per card refund from the Nvidia lawsuit).

So, by your logic, what should a 5950x or 12900k cost, bearing in mind a Z80 cost 29.95 in 1978 and considering everything is much more complex these days? At least $20k - considering you needed to run at least two pentium IIs just to get two processor cores in an SMP board at the late 90s?

 

[Johnpombrio]

Here is my "recent" EVGA buying history and cost. All were bought at MSRP and it took forever for the 2080Ti and 3080Ti to be in stock at MSRP prices so that delayed my purchases for at least 6-9 months for each. I would expect the 4080 to be more quickly available at MSRP with the economic slowdown and crypto turmoil I suspect will happen.

Nvidia EVGA GTX 1080 FTW 2016-08-16 $686.19
NVidia EVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 2017-05-15 $749.00
NVidia EVGA RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 2019-03-05 $1399.99
NVidia EVGA RTX 3080 Ti FTW3 2021-10-18 $1,419.99 (first state tax payment and shipping of $20 so total $1531.66)

I was surprised to see how expensive the 2080 Ti was compared to the 3080 Ti.

 

[Eximo]

So, by your logic, what should a 5950x or 12900k cost, bearing in mind a Z80 cost 29.95 in 1978 and considering everything is much more complex these days? At least $20k - considering you needed to run at least two pentium IIs just to get two processor cores in an SMP board at the late 90s?

As before, Moore's law was most relevant back then. You could upgrade a computer every 6 months and see huge improvements. 8-bit vs 64-bit, core count (not to mention SMT), cache amount, memory bandwidth, and IPC. And you are talking all the way back to micro meter nodes.

That would be $130 today. So it would more favorably compare to something like an i3, not a flagship processor. Even then I'm not really sure how to directly compare such CPUs. They don't really publish the fine details like they did back then. So no calculations per second or anything to really go off of.

Still. Intel has had huge influence on keeping CPU prices stable until very recently when core counts started going up.

Pentium Pro boards if you wanted multi-core early on. But in the server space multi-core was somewhat common by that point. AMD's first dual core was what 1999 or 2001?

Having a 16 core CPU priced almost twice as much as a same generation 8 core is pretty reasonable to me...

 

[DayneTreader]

"Unlike the Nvidia RTX 3080 Ti Founders Edition, which uses a blower-style cooling setup"
The 30-series don't use blowers. Get your act together, author.