Question RTX 4060ti hotspot temperature above 100°C

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Hello everyone,

I purchased an RTX 4060ti MSI ventus black 2X for $342 and I've been doing some upscale tests with topaz AI 3.2.9 and with 3DMARK time spy, and I couldn't help noticing that my hotspot temp is reaching 101°C and the card sits around 81, if I set my power limit to 62% the hotspot decreases to 80, but it's still a lot

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My previous RX 6600 used to hover around 60°C
My room temperature is 18-21°C
My case has 2x120mm intake fans and 2x120mm exhaust fans

I tried re-applying thermal paste today, the factory thermal paste was rock solid, and it was really hard to remove it but no improvement whatsoever.

Is it normal to reach 101°C with an ok airflow and a room with air conditioning? or should I replace the thermal pads? I don't wanna RMA because I live outside the US, and it will take around 2 weeks to send it back and who knows how much more for them to send me a new one (warranty seal intact).
 
From what I can gather, as long as the temperature doesn't exceed 125C, it's more or less fine. It's also normal for the hot spot temperature to be ~15-20C above the other GPU value. If you're hitting the thermal performance limit reason, then the GPU is doing its job of keeping itself from cooking.

Also the fact you changed the thermal paste may have made things worse, depending on what paste you used, how you applied it, among other things.
 
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From what I can gather, as long as the temperature doesn't exceed 125C, it's more or less fine. It's also normal for the hot spot temperature to be ~15-20C above the other GPU value. If you're hitting the thermal performance limit reason, then the GPU is doing its job of keeping itself from cooking.

Also the fact you changed the thermal paste may have made things worse, depending on what paste you used, how you applied it, among other things.
Thanks, but tbh I'm still concerned about the temp reaching 100°C somewhere in the card, I hope it's not the memories, because the thermal pads looked and felt cheap like double-sided tape, not like the ones that the rx6600 mech2x had (they were gray, soft sticky and thin); and one of the pads made only like 80% contact with the memory chip because the heatsink didn't cover that area entirely to apply pressure.
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The thermal paste though did not decrease the temps, it decreased a lot the fan noise, yesterday it sound like a plane was about to take off, today same temps but a lot more silent.

The factory thermal paste was rock solid took me around 10 minutes of careful rubbing with alcohol to remove it, I never saw a thermal paste of a brand-new card like that. I used MX-6. I'm a fan of the Arctic products.
 
Honestly the cooler on that card doesn't seem very good. I couldn't find any reviews/teardowns of the 4060 Ti model only the 4060, and that one runs on the hot side. If it's the same cooler I could easily see that being a limiting factor. I have a Ventus 1660 Ti that I did everything I could think of to lower temps, but the cooler is just maxed out (temps were in the lower 70s).
 
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Honestly the cooler on that card doesn't seem very good. I couldn't find any reviews/teardowns of the 4060 Ti model only the 4060, and that one runs on the hot side. If it's the same cooler I could easily see that being a limiting factor. I have a Ventus 1660 Ti that I did everything I could think of to lower temps, but the cooler is just maxed out (temps were in the lower 70s).
I was afraid of that, but honestly, my old RX6600 mech2x had a better cooler than this 4060ti, what a disappointment, I don't feel comfortable with the card running 101°C, I have limited it to 75% power limit around 120w, losing just like 5fps, but still disappointing.
 
I was afraid of that, but honestly, my old RX6600 mech2x had a better cooler than this 4060ti, what a disappointment, I don't feel comfortable with the card running 101°C, I have limited it to 75% power limit around 120w, losing just like 5fps, but still disappointing.
Yeah I'm pretty sure these cards run hotter due to the smaller chip size combined with higher clockspeeds. That's probably why they sell the 2x and 3x versions of those cards. What case do you have? Also what are you using for CPU cooler?

I don't see it addressed, but hotspot is just the hottest part of the die.
 
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The heatsink style doesn't work as well in the most popular case arrangement.
That model exhausts its waste heat towards the front and rear. The card's front exhaust conflicts with front case intakes.

Strangely enough, or perhaps it's done on purpose, but you don't see that heatsink arrangement on any triple fan coolers, as those are all side exhaust. If a triple fan cooler with that kind of heatsink existed, it'd probably do the same against front case intake.
Dual fan coolers will either be front to back, or have side exhausts. Adding to that, the ones with the former are cheaper than the latter.

That's messed up, gpu vendors.
 
Hello everyone ,

Just a quick update on this topic, indeed the cooler is too small for the GPU, however, I was finally able to get somehow near to the temps that I wanted.

I applied liquid metal to the die and the copper part of the heatsink, a really small amount, looked just like paint, and it worked really well.

Yesterday at 100% load, 100% power limit with combustor I got 98°C at hotspot and fans at 90%.
Today after liquid metal application under the same conditions I got 88°C hotspot and fans at 40%
I put the fans at 90% and the hotspot dropped to 60°C

What a huge difference almost 40°C less when running the fans at 90%,

I contacted MSI but got no response :) nice customer service. I mean I got the GPU for 342 but still sucks that they are doing this stuff, loud GPUs with extreme heat. my old RX6600 cost me 299 and the box felt really premium and the cooler was way better...

Thanks all for your help.
 
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