Question rtx 4070 fluctuating while gaming

[SteveBeast]

Hey guys.

While playing MFS2020 i noticed in MSI Afterburner that my GPU Usage fluctates between 60-100 % all the time. Is that normal?
Shouldnt it be 100% all the time? Could that mean my GPU is broken?
I also got the feeling that when the drop of the GPU Usage occurs theres some frame dropes

 

[Satan-IR]

Knowing full system sepcs helps.

No I don't think it's broken. The GPU and CPU loads vary at different times during gaming. Depends on how demanding the scene is, in other words how demnding is rendering the frames CPU prepares for the GPU are and some other factors.

Frame drops also depends on how many frames per secons the system (CPU + GPU) can drive and your screen refresh rate etc. How many frames do you get on average (according to Afterburner) and what's your display refresh rate? What are the CPU and GPU temps at idle and under load/when gaming?

Again knowing system specs including PSU make, model and age helps.

 

[SteveBeast]

i7 14700k , rtx 4070, 32 gb , win 11, kraken x64 280mm aio, thermal bracket frame, PSU 1000 w Corsair RM1000x.

On idle CPU is mostly 35 Degrees, and GPU about 40.
Display refresh rate 165 hz. And normally the FPS on average in MFS2020 is around 140FPS on landscapes but much lower in cities like New York City for example.
But theres a lot of microstuttering in MFS2020 which the FPS Counter doesnt detect, so Im wondering what that could be. And sometimes MSI Afterburner shows a drop to 0 in GPU Usage, what could that be? Just happened a few seconds ago when I was writing this and had MFS2020 open on another Monitor.

 

[SteveBeast]

See and this GPU Usage Drop to 0 occured as soon as I was switching from writing in this forum to playing MFS2020 on the other Monitor again. Isnt that the sign of a faulty GPU? Just bought it?

GPU Drop

And I noticed when Frame Drops occur that the GPU USage Load drops almost to zero, isnt that paradox?

 

[SteveBeast]

Here again thats the GPU Usage of MSI Afterburner after starting the PC and starting up MFS2020. Thats not normal right?

GPU

Just reinstalled windows to see whether it's better, no its even worse. It's like up down up down all the time.

 

[SteveBeast]

Could someone help me out? It's really bugging me. And when I have just a tab opened the gpu usage stays at 0. Otherwise always big fluctuations. Don't know what else I could do?

 

[Satan-IR]

Here again thats the GPU Usage of MSI Afterburner after starting the PC and starting up MFS2020. Thats not normal right?

GPU

Just reinstalled windows to see whether it's better, no its even worse. It's like up down up down all the time.

IS that drop to 0 FPS when you 'start up' launch the MSF2020? If that's the case it's normal when there's some sort of splash screen or whatever MSF2020 has when it's launched and it's loading there's really not much going on for the GPU and in the background CPU and Storage and RAM are working to load the application.

Anyway as I said before during gameplay fluctuations in the work load of the CPU and the GPU are normal. The workload rarely does constant plateau and stay at a vertain level.

If you experience drops in frame rate to 0 during gameplay that could be caused by other things. Faulty hardware, driver issues, high temps in CPU or GPU or both causing thermal throtling and the chip to clock down.

And normally the FPS on average in MFS2020 is around 140FPS on landscapes but much lower in cities like New York City for example.

This is normal, more complx sceneries with higher number of objects would cause the frame rate to drop a bit.

Maybe other's would have some other input too.

 

[SteveBeast]

IS that drop to 0 FPS when you 'start up' launch the MSF2020? If that's the case it's normal when there's some sort of splash screen or whatever MSF2020 has when it's launched and it's loading there's really not much going on for the GPU and in the background CPU and Storage and RAM are working to load the application.

Anyway as I said before during gameplay fluctuations in the work load of the CPU and the GPU are normal. The workload rarely does constant plateau and stay at a vertain level.

If you experience drops in frame rate to 0 during gameplay that could be caused by other things. Faulty hardware, driver issues, high temps in CPU or GPU or both causing thermal throtling and the chip to clock down.


This is normal, more complx sceneries with higher number of objects would cause the frame rate to drop a bit.

Maybe other's would have some other input too.

So the dropping down to 0 is randomly.
Yesterday I had just 1 tab open and did nothing on the screen and gpu usage was 0 the whole time and cpu usage was 0-1 that's not normal right?

So you say the fluctuations while gaming are normal. But those are very wide fluctuations ranging from 10-80 all the time with both the gpu and cpu usage. So that's weird right? As you can see on the pictures I posted.

 

[Satan-IR]

So the dropping down to 0 is randomly.
Yesterday I had just 1 tab open and did nothing on the screen and gpu usage was 0 the whole time and cpu usage was 0-1 that's not normal right?

So you say the fluctuations while gaming are normal. But those are very wide fluctuations ranging from 10-80 all the time with both the gpu and cpu usage. So that's weird right? As you can see on the pictures I posted.

By tab you mean you mean in a browser? If that's the case and no other application was running a heavy task that is normal. System idle and in a browser with one tab open gpu usage must be 0.

Yes fluctuations are normal. If you're gaming and during a very heavy scene in terms of CPU and GPU usage the frames suddenly drop to 0 from let's say 90FPS that not normal. Otherwise during any game some fluctuation is normal.

 

[SteveBeast]

By tab you mean you mean in a browser? If that's the case and no other application was running a heavy task that is normal. System idle and in a browser with one tab open gpu usage must be 0.

Yes fluctuations are normal. If you're gaming and during a very heavy scene in terms of CPU and GPU usage the frames suddenly drop to 0 from let's say 90FPS that not normal. Otherwise during any game some fluctuation is normal.

Yeah I meant the Browser Tab. So now I was reinstalling Windows, and checked if the GPU was placed correctly.
And when I started MFS2020 thats what the GPU Usage looked like, (Link shown below)
and when I started the Flight there was suddenly a big stutter in the Game and the Usage dropped to 0 as shown in the Graph. So yeah Ive no idea whats wrong with this GPU. What can I do?

GPU Graph Usage

 

[Eximo]

Is that DDR4 or DDR5, what speed?

DDR5 has partial ECC so it is possible to recover from memory errors to some extent. I would run memtest against your system to see if it is working correctly. If not, try a slower XMP profile or try increasing memory voltages slightly.

GPUs also have ECC memory these days, so they can also recover from issues. Is the GPU overclocked? You can try reducing the memory clock on the GPU to see if that makes an improvement. Sometimes actually best to try your hand at overclocking so you can see the bad memory behavior. It won't always crash, at some point it will just start performing poorly. (AKA highest frequency numbers aren't best when it comes to overclocking, only the results matter)

What type of storage are you using for MSFS2020? Ideally you want this at least on a SATA SSD if not an NVMe drive for performance. Check your storage drive health. Issues there could cause stuttering as it loads in textures and world data.

Normally, I would trust the RM1000x it is a fine unit. Did you use adapters to plug in the GPU or did you get a type 4 12-pin cable? Check your cables, 4070 isn't exactly a huge power hog, but those 12-pin cables are known to melt if not properly inserted. GPU temperatures will be measured at the cores, memory, and a few other places, not necessarily around the rest of the board. Any extra heat generated by a loose connection could certainly have an effect on the GPU operation.

Wiping the OS and starting over would eliminate most other problems.

 

[SteveBeast]

Is that DDR4 or DDR5, what speed?

DDR5 has partial ECC so it is possible to recover from memory errors to some extent. I would run memtest against your system to see if it is working correctly. If not, try a slower XMP profile or try increasing memory voltages slightly.

GPUs also have ECC memory these days, so they can also recover from issues. Is the GPU overclocked? You can try reducing the memory clock on the GPU to see if that makes an improvement. Sometimes actually best to try your hand at overclocking so you can see the bad memory behavior. It won't always crash, at some point it will just start performing poorly. (AKA highest frequency numbers aren't best when it comes to overclocking, only the results matter)

What type of storage are you using for MSFS2020? Ideally you want this at least on a SATA SSD if not an NVMe drive for performance. Check your storage drive health. Issues there could cause stuttering as it loads in textures and world data.

Normally, I would trust the RM1000x it is a fine unit. Did you use adapters to plug in the GPU or did you get a type 4 12-pin cable? Check your cables, 4070 isn't exactly a huge power hog, but those 12-pin cables are known to melt if not properly inserted. GPU temperatures will be measured at the cores, memory, and a few other places, not necessarily around the rest of the board. Any extra heat generated by a loose connection could certainly have an effect on the GPU operation.

Wiping the OS and starting over would eliminate most other problems.

1. I have ddr5 xmp profile. I just set it to xmp on the bios nothing more, so you would say disable it?

2.gpu isn't over locked. Is there a tutorial how to reduce the clock?

3.using a nvme ssd for games

4.im using the normal pin cables that came with the psu. Have it inserted correctly and tight.

5. Yeah and I just reinstalled the OS and it didn't help

 

[Eximo]

The speed is the important thing. Not all configurations are stable at XMP settings, so knowing what yours is may help. I would test the memory as is and see what happens. If it passes, then nothing is wrong. For example I wouldn't be too worried about a 5200 or 5600 XMP profile. 6000 is pretty normal, but the timings may need to be loosened, and 6400 and up is questionable.

MSI Afterburner is a simple tool with sliders for adjusting the GPU clocks. Even non-overclocked GPUs have boost profiles which will take them beyond even the factory max boost clocks as long as power and temperature allows. It may just be pushing a little too hard.