News RTX 4080 Super or RTX 4080 Ti May Arrive In 2024 Within RTX 4080 Price Range

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I hope this is true, and we get Super cards down the rest of the stack.
If they make a 4070 Super to take over the $800 price point, using AD103 with a 256-bit bus and 16GB VRAM, and 68 SMs (halfway between the 4070 Ti and 4080), that would be my next graphics card.
 
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The article is absolutely wrong on the price difference between msrp of 4080 vs 7900xtx. It’s not $100-150….it’s $200 dollars. And even more with street pricing. I don’t understand how you can get that wrong unless it’s purposeful.
 
Think that's more wishful thinking than anything. As long as nVidia and AMD are making money hand over fist in the enterprise market, and Intel sill flounders, there's nothing keeping consumer GPU prices from rising, because neither AMD nor nVidia has to sell a single one, so there's no reason to lower prices.
 
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It's ironic that peak prices for GPUs matched the times where games are less appealing.

Youtube is full of people complaining that games "aren't fun anymore", "what ruined games", "where games went wrong", and stuff like that.
 
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7900XT can be found around $700 with the same performance as 4080, only fuuuls buy into ray gimmick and fake generation. You want to spend money on Nvidia get the 4090, being the fastest you can justify paying more than double for it

One day technology may advance to the point where dlss is undistinguished from native, where path tracing really brings that sense of realism and frame generation brings a real feel of boost to the table, and when that day comes it will be probably Nvidia giving it, THENets pay some high dollars for the tech. Right now though? Nvidia truly is asking way more for their GPUs than it's worth
 
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oofdragon said:
One day technology may advance to the point where dlss is undistinguished from native, where path tracing really brings that sense of realism and frame generation brings a real feel of boost to the table, and when that day comes it will be probably Nvidia giving it.
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Have you ever seen raytracing, DLSS quality, and frame generation? Everything you just stated is already here as you state them. Only people with a really good eye have to double take a single paused frame with a comparison frame with the tech off to tell which one is which. The only one that is obvious to spot in a still frame is frame generation, not so much in moving content.
 
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Have you ever seen raytracing, DLSS quality, and frame generation? Everything you just stated is already here as you state them. Only people with a really good eye have to double take a single paused frame with a comparison frame with the tech off to tell which one is which. The only one that is obvious to spot in a still frame is frame generation, not so much in moving content.
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Personally, I can't even notice a difference with DLSS Balanced vs native 1440p. Which is awesome, cuz even more performance for free for me.
 
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oofdragon said:
7900XT can be found around $700 with the same performance as 4080, only fuuuls buy into ray gimmick and fake generation.
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and yet the 7900xt can do both of those things now. True, 2nd needs experimental drivers but its still possible - I haven't bothered, wait for feature to be in normal drivers. So your point doesn't make a lot of sense. at least the 2nd part anyway.

I can see all of it being useful eventually. Right now I don't play any games with RT and my pc can run games at 1440p 144hz without need for more frames. If I had a 4k screen, I could see a use for it.
 
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Current 4080 isn't even using full-die AD103, so a refreshed 4080 could use full die. There's certainly room for a 4080 Ti, with either a 320-bit (20GB) or 352-bit (22GB) memory bus width.

Should fit right in between 4080 and 4090 and would help close the massive performance gap between the two.

4080 (refresh) - 80 SMs - $999
4080 Ti - 100 SMs (+25% over 4080 refresh) - $1299
4090 - 128 SMs (+28% over 4080 Ti) - $1599

Full AD102 has 144 SMs and if Nvidia really wanted to milk consumers, they could release a full die 4090 Ti for $2499. I think Nvidia is reserving these for professional market though, where they can easily sell for $6000+.
 
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Current 4080 isn't even using full-die AD103, so a refreshed 4080 could use full die. There's certainly room for a 4080 Ti, with either a 320-bit (20GB) or 352-bit (22GB) memory bus width.

Should fit right in between 4080 and 4090 and would help close the massive performance gap between the two.

4080 (refresh) - 80 SMs - $999
4080 Ti - 100 SMs (+25% over 4080 refresh) - $1299
4090 - 128 SMs (+28% over 4080 Ti) - $1599

Full AD102 has 144 SMs and if Nvidia really wanted to milk consumers, they could release a full die 4090 Ti for $2499. I think Nvidia is reserving these for professional market though, where they can easily sell for $6000+.
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Oh yeah, I completely forgot that it doesn't use the full AD103.
Interesting analysis, sounds plausible. And if they make a 4080 refresh using the full die, they'd almost certainly make a 4070 Super with the imperfect dies. (I want my 4070 Super, dammit! A guy can dream! : D)
 
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Full AD102 has 144 SMs and if Nvidia really wanted to milk consumers, they could release a full die 4090 Ti for $2499. I think Nvidia is reserving these for professional market though, where they can easily sell for $6000+.
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i think the 4090 TI would be too tempting for people who don't want to buy an ADA 6000 https://www.nvidia.com/en-au/design-visualization/rtx-6000/

But if it does come out, it could have more VRAM than current model as Nvidia has breathing room now. releasing a card with too much before threatened people just buying it over pro cards.
 
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