News RTX 50-series paper launch saw RTX 5090, RTX 5080 flew off the shelves — Micro Center, Best Buy, and Newegg are all out of stock

[Admin]

RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 inventory has run dry at most major US retailers.

RTX 50-series paper launch saw RTX 5090, RTX 5080 flew off the shelves — Micro Center, Best Buy, and Newegg are all out of stock : Read more

 

[COLGeek]

This was fully projected and expected. Has become the norm. Not really a surprise in any way.

 

[magbarn]

Nvidia can kill scalping overnight by allowing pre-orders like Tesla/Apple does. Would rather wait a few months with guaranteed stock, than relying on stock alerts and hoping we score. This sold out just as fast and bad as the Ampere launches. Nvidia likely has allocated majority of their TSMC production to Ai.

 

[USAFRet]

Nvidia can kill scalping overnight by allowing pre-orders like Tesla/Apple does. Would rather wait a few months with guaranteed stock, than relying on stock alerts and hoping we score. This sold out just as fast and bad as the Ampere launches. Nvidia likely has allocated majority of their TSMC production to Ai.

The 'pre-orders' would be sold out just as quickly.
And while YOU may be OK with waiting....some of the fools out there are not.
GHIN syndrome.

 

[sstanic]

But why is there a lack of 4nm capacity, if Nvidia makes their AI dies in a 3nm factory? Shouldn't 4nm be more than available by now, if all the main players are on 3nm? Isn't that precisely why Nvidia is making these GPUs on 4nm, so that they don't eat into their own 3nm wafers? Is it GDDR7 memory that's behind schedule, or packaging capacity or what?

 

[magbarn]

But why is there a lack of 4nm capacity, if Nvidia makes their AI dies in a 3nm factory? Shouldn't 4nm be more than available by now, if all the main players are on 3nm? Isn't that precisely why Nvidia is making these GPUs on 4nm, so that they don't eat into their own 3nm wafers? Is it GDDR7 memory that's behind schedule, or packaging capacity or what?

Hopefully TSMC AZ can at least start producing GPUs soon. That should help the situation.

 

[Giroro]

It's easy to sell out of a product when Nvidia doesn't want to waste manufacturing capacity by making them in the first place.

Why Nvidia even bothered "launching" a 50xx series, I'm still not sure. Maybe they want a fallback in the chamber if the AI bubble inevitably pops next year, instead of in a couple years.

 

[Gaidax]

Why Nvidia even bothered "launching" a 50xx series, I'm still not sure. Maybe they want a fallback in the chamber if the AI bubble inevitably pops next year, instead of in a couple years.

They have like 80% of the consumer PC discreet GPU market in their pocket and they have the technological edge with almost no competition at high end.

They are not going to give it up, especially because they can sell products from an older node for wads of cash. Consumer Blackwell is using an older process, while their professional Blackwell is actually using newer process, so they don't directly compete for resources to begin with.

Besides it's also another product line for them for the rainy day.

 

[Eximo]

5090 is the same die area as 4 AD106 chips (4060 Ti, and 4070 Mobile)

Supposedly ceased production on everything but the AD107 die in favor of Blackwell. So their fall back plan would seem to be refreshes of the whole line up.

 

[LookHereBub]

Just to confirm the paper launch status, confirmed with Best Buy that sales would begin at 6AM PT, and sure enough it did. I played the refresh game for a couple minutes before that, and at just after 6 the "add to cart" button appeared. Literally, hit refresh, button, push button, at most a 1-2 second gap. Then the "you are in line" page comes up with a circle spinning. 30 seconds later, it says "something happened" and refreshed to the product page. "Sold Out" button now showing. All told, a max of 35 second elapsed from refresh to <Mod Edit>. No one but bots got anything out of Best Buy, and their stock could not have been more than double digits nation wide. Micro Center didn't have more than that either. Really pathetic.

 

[USAFRet]

No one but bots got anything...

And it has been that way for several cycles and releases.
Not just BB.

 

[Flayed]

Just to confirm the paper launch status, confirmed with Best Buy that sales would begin at 6AM PT, and sure enough it did. I played the refresh game for a couple minutes before that, and at just after 6 the "add to cart" button appeared. Literally, hit refresh, button, push button, at most a 1-2 second gap. Then the "you are in line" page comes up with a circle spinning. 30 seconds later, it says "something happened" and refreshed to the product page. "Sold Out" button now showing. All told, a max of 35 second elapsed from refresh to <Mod Edit>. No one but bots got anything out of Best Buy, and their stock could not have been more than double digits nation wide. Micro Center didn't have more than that either. Really pathetic.

Oh well look on the bright side you saved yourself a pile of cash.

 

[joartrak]

This has been a trend for several years now, and you would at least think they would figure out ways to have a much friendlier consumer launch. It's amazingly obvious they do not care about getting the product to gamers, which is just really poor customer service. That is just speaking to them as a business and not even how "meh" this card is compared to previous cards. "Don't be sorry, be better" is a phrase that comes to mind.

Rant over.

 

[acadia11]

Wafers usually come in 300mm and 200mm generally the wafer has nothing to do with process node mostly which creates the die.

 

[Darcey]

Nvidia releasing 5090 and 5080 series cards with next to no stock was a poor decision​

The nvidia website went straight from "coming soon" to "out of stock". It was supposed to become available at 2pm, it was still coming soon till 2:30pm ish when it just went straight to out of stock, and I had a bot checking it every 5 seconds.

OCUK
Only had 10 cards.

Scan
Was the same, only the MSI ventus was available for about 3.142 seconds before they removed the buy button on the website.

Nvidia shouldn't have set this release date with so little FE cards in their stock and after market cards in resellers warehouses.

I think I will see how things are in December, no rush, or wait for the 6090, I was hoping for 64gb of ram anyway for AI workloads, 32 is nowhere near enough. Flux dev fp16 and fp16 vae uses more than 24gb, the 5090 will just be enough, the fp8 and fp4 features are no good for detailed image processing.

NEVER BUY FROM SCALPERS

 

[aberkae]

Just to confirm the paper launch status, confirmed with Best Buy that sales would begin at 6AM PT, and sure enough it did. I played the refresh game for a couple minutes before that, and at just after 6 the "add to cart" button appeared. Literally, hit refresh, button, push button, at most a 1-2 second gap. Then the "you are in line" page comes up with a circle spinning. 30 seconds later, it says "something happened" and refreshed to the product page. "Sold Out" button now showing. All told, a max of 35 second elapsed from refresh to <Mod Edit>. No one but bots got anything out of Best Buy, and their stock could not have been more than double digits nation wide. Micro Center didn't have more than that either. Really pathetic.

The Bestbuy app had me on line for one for 10 hours before the canceled the order. 🤦‍♂️

 

[Gaidax]

Well, I asked around and for my country, there won't even be any 5090s for the next week or two.

I have my order confirmed, but I know full well I won't see that card until the mid-end February the earliest, if I'm lucky.

 

[Moonstick2]

Nvidia shouldn't have set this release date with so little FE cards in their stock and after market cards in resellers warehouses.

The vast majority of the media shouldn't be headlining this story as variations of "5090 sells out in record time". "Less than 250 RTX 5090 cards sell across entire US" or "RTX 5090: 3rd most valuable company in the world nVidia unable to produce even 250 of flagship product for whole of US in time for release, disappointing thousands" are apparently just as accurate but leave the company having to explain the apparent negative connation instead of basking in the glory.

 

[Dean0919]

I don't understand why scalping is happening about GPUs? Why it's not happening about other components of PC or any other things not even related to computers? Why we have scalping problem only on GPUs these recent years and why they started this crap after Covid era? I know scalping wasn't happening before it, back in old times when GPUs had price for mortal people not just for rich people.

EDIT: Never mind, I asked Gemini and it already gave me an answer:

"The difference in scalping problems between CPUs and GPUs comes down to a few key factors:

• Demand: GPUs are in much higher demand than CPUs due to their use in gaming, cryptocurrency mining, and AI development. This high demand creates a shortage, making GPUs prime targets for scalpers.
• Supply: GPUs are more complex to manufacture than CPUs, leading to lower production yields and a more limited supply. This scarcity exacerbates the scalping problem.
• Profit Margin: The higher demand and limited supply of GPUs allow scalpers to charge much higher prices, making it a more lucrative venture than CPU scalping.
  • Gaming: High-end GPUs are needed for the best gaming experience, creating a strong demand from gamers.
  • Cryptocurrency Mining: GPUs were used extensively for mining cryptocurrencies, creating a massive surge in demand.
  • AI Development: GPUs are crucial for training AI models, leading to high demand from researchers and developers.

These factors combine to create a perfect storm for GPU scalping. The high demand, limited supply, and potential for large profits make GPUs a prime target for scalpers, while CPUs, with their lower demand and wider availability, are less attractive."

 

[oofdragon]

The thing is GPUs are also targeted for AI and still for mining, hence this nonsense of they can charge whatever they want happened. Good news is no one actually need anything above a 6700 or 3060 since even these cards runs any game at 4K ultra/high settings above 30fps. If you are too pick about the 60fps range then the 6800 and 3080 do the trick as well. Last time I checked there are plenty of cards like these in storage. 5000 series is a refresh of 4000, nothing new, why bother? This "GPU shortage" is only a problem to rich people who cant enjoy gaming the way everybody did for the last 30 years and people after AI and mining which there are another options albeit more expensive

 

[Gaidax]

The thing is GPUs are also targeted for AI and still for mining, hence this nonsense of they can charge whatever they want happened. Good news is no one actually need anything above a 6700 or 3060 since even these cards runs any game at 4K ultra/high settings above 30fps. If you are too pick about the 60fps range then the 6800 and 3080 do the trick as well. Last time I checked there are plenty of cards like these in storage. 5000 series is a refresh of 4000, nothing new, why bother? This "GPU shortage" is only a problem to rich people who cant enjoy gaming the way everybody did for the last 30 years and people after AI and mining which there are another options albeit more expensive

Golden words truly.

I think too many people gaslight themselves into thinking you "need" these $1k+ GPUs to play PC games.

 

[Dean0919]

I'm staying on my RTX 3080. It's pretty enough for all my needs. Besides the games I play recently it doesn't struggle at all (Delta Force, Days Gone, Killing Floor 2, Battlefield 2042). I think I'll stay with this card for quite long unless it gets really very old and weak which isn't going to happen any time soon.